Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - Please help the Chain Whip newbie

While I managed to snug my cog onto my new fixed gear conversion, I was not happy with how "secure" the chain whip was on the cog in the process. As I was manipulating the chainwhip to cinch the cog on, the chain part wanted to disengage from the cog if I didn't hold it in engagement. So what am I doing wrong or missing in this process?

Particularly, I am concerned about how to get the cog back off at some point in the future, given the force that will likely be required (since it's locktited into place since there was no thread left for even a BB lockring).

Thanks in advance!
jtz

While I managed to snug my cog onto my new fixed gear conversion, I was not happy with how "secure" the chain whip was on the cog in the process. As I was manipulating the chainwhip to cinch the cog on, the chain part wanted to disengage from the cog if I didn't hold it in engagement. So what am I doing wrong or missing in this process?

Particularly, I am concerned about how to get the cog back off at some point in the future, given the force that will likely be required (since it's locktited into place since there was no thread left for even a BB lockring).

Thanks in advance!
jtz

Ok the chainwhip goes on facing one way for installation and the other for removal. Wrap the chain on before you engage the head and make sure its on fairly tight. Hold tension on it as you remove/install the freewheel/lockring. I see you're in Grand Rapids. If you are anywhere near Village Bicycles on 44th and Kalamazoo go see Jim or Kevin and ask them how to use a chainwhip, and buy a tube or something while you're there. They were the ones that originally showed me... its not hard but its hard to explain w/o demonstrating it.

While I managed to snug my cog onto my new fixed gear conversion, I was not happy with how "secure" the chain whip was on the cog in the process. As I was manipulating the chainwhip to cinch the cog on, the chain part wanted to disengage from the cog if I didn't hold it in engagement. So what am I doing wrong or missing in this process?

Particularly, I am concerned about how to get the cog back off at some point in the future, given the force that will likely be required (since it's locktited into place since there was no thread left for even a BB lockring).

Thanks in advance!
jtz
If you are running a larger tooth cog it will tend to come off unless you hold the end of the chain on the tooth while installing or removing.

fixedgearhead

my god, i'm just amazed anyone rides fixed in g.r...i grew up in muskegon and ended up living in grand rapids for about a year. kind of off topic but hey gotta rep. the wm!

my god, i'm just amazed anyone rides fixed in g.r...i grew up in muskegon and ended up living in grand rapids for about a year. kind of off topic but hey gotta rep. the wm!

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I don't see whats so outrageous about riding fixed in GR (my hometown actually). A lot of people I know do, and there isn't a whole lot in the way of hills.

If you are running a larger tooth cog it will tend to come off unless you hold the end of the chain on the tooth while installing or removing.

fixedgearhead

Aha.... we may have hit upon the answer. I have a 16 tooth cog. But Here's a followup... don't you have to use chainwhips to remove all the sprockets from a multi-speed freewheel? How do you get the 28 tooth sprockets off if this things wants to slip on a 16???

As for Grand Rapids. It is not too bad yet. I have just one fixed-gear ride under my belt: a 11 mile AM workout. Some hills and minor grades, but nothing too bad. Running 165:46-16:27x1+1/8" Might be a bit high for now, but planning on "growing into it" and using it for commuting as the only gas consuming vehicles I have get sub 25MPG.


Thanks,
jtz