Triathlon - Training for a marathon while still cycling????
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01-27-09, 11:56 AM
I am an avid cyclist and commute to work regularly. Approximately 100-150 miles a week on average cycling.
I want to train to run a marathon by March of 2010. Currently I run about 3 miles a week for 20 to 45 minutes at a time.
Can someone point me to a good training program, simple to understand, and easy to follow?
01-27-09, 12:05 PM
Not sure if it will meet your needs, but you can "build your own program" on Runner's world.
Google search "Runner's world smart coach"
01-29-09, 03:30 PM
This is the plan I use http://www.runnersworld.com/article/0,7120,s6-238-244--8257-6-1X2X3X4X5X6-7,00.html and loved it... I ran my first marathon in about 4 hours not great, but I finished. I'm training for my second one while training for a triathlon and I have found a great increase in my pace. Normally I follow my pace fun with an hour long bike ride, I would take a day off before my long run. Also I have long swim the day after my long run. I hope this helps
01-30-09, 07:28 AM
Can someone point me to a good training program, simple to understand, and easy to follow?Probably not. Advice surrounding any training program is based on an evaluation and goal of the subject, not whether or not some one is an "avid" cyclist.
However,"universal" training advice exists for any scenario. Try to increase the length and frequency of your running sessions - as long as you rest well and remain pain free.
At least once a week, run a very long workout. At least twice a week, run as fast as you can for several minutes during several of your runs.
01-30-09, 07:32 AM
Good idea. What he said will get you there.
01-30-09, 07:39 AM
Most of the running programs don't take into consideration other forms of exercise one might do like cycling and/or swimming. If you plan to still cycle, here's some good advice.
Increase your weekly milage but by no greater than 10% of the previous week. As you keep building up, take a bfreak every three or four weeks and cut back just a little. You need rest in both daily runs but weekly/monthly runs.
Do a long run once a week. The weekends usually are good for this. Just like the weekly distance, increase you longer run by no more than 10% of the previous one. Use the other days of the week to graedually build up your endurance and speed. You can do some speedwork like intervals after a while once you have a sufficent base in.
Allow some recovery/rest day after a long or hard day.
A marathon is long so prepare and train for it. I wouldn't attempt one until you feel comfortabel and confident in your ability to finish. Sure people do one on 25 miles a week but they are literally struggling on the course and end up walking a lot. My advice is have several 18+ milers in before you attempt one.
I'm kind of the opposite. I run Marathons and try to cycle to cross train so I don't kill my body. I've found that I truly enjoy the cycling - maybe more than the running, hence my draw to triathlon. All of the advice listed above is great. The thing that struck me as the most true is that not many marathon training programs factor in cross training in other sports - they are all geared towards running, and running only. The first thing I'd do is try to decide if you want to race your marathon or complete your marathon. StanSeven was right when he said you can train on less, but you'll be struggling on the course. Based on how much you ride, I have to assume that you are in pretty good shape. Riding shape is different from running shape, though. I can run a marathon an hour faster than my brother, but he can ride longer and faster than I can - just shows where we spend our time training...
He trained for his last marathon using a program from F.I.R.S.T., and liked it. It focuses on 3 key workouts each week, and gives a lot of flexibility in your other workouts. He was able to contiue working the bike, spend a little time in the pool, and prepare for a marathon with about the same number of training hours I put in on just running. The link is below:
I might suggest trying a half marathon first (as part of your build up training). It's a good test and prepares you nicely for the longer distance. To a first time marathoner, it's more about survival than racing, but the more you do them, the easier they get, and the more they become like racing. Running a half is like running a mini-marathon.
Good luck, and maybe this will help you... Let us know if you have any other questions.
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