Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - HAHA! Improve this!! Show US YOUR MEDDLE BARBARIAN IRON FIXIE CHEFS!

Surly Steamroller frame,
Suzue track hubs,
Profile bar and stem,
Michelin tires,
Selle Italia Nitrox saddle,
Kalloy post,
Mavic MA3 rims,
Sugino crank (49T),
15t track cog,
s-ram pc chain,
egg beater pedals,
and an RX100 front brake

Ok you wise barbarians! Know your stuff? Show me YO SHIZZLE.

That's right! Show me your wrath! Show me you can build it better!

COME AND RISE TO THE CHALLENGE!

MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!

<yawning> maybe tomorrow I'll show you how it's really done

I will be waiting!!!

Surly Steamroller frame,
Suzue track hubs,
Profile bar and stem,
Michelin tires,
Selle Italia Nitrox saddle,
Kalloy post,
Mavic MA3 rims,
Sugino crank (49T),
15t track cog,
s-ram pc chain,
egg beater pedals,
and an RX100 front brake

Ok you wise barbarians! Know your stuff? Show me YO SHIZZLE.

That's right! Show me your wrath! Show me you can build it better!

COME AND RISE TO THE CHALLENGE!

MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!

well, better as in "will perform the duties of a bicycle better longer." or "better" as in "will cost you a crapload of money."?

a nice combination of the two for me would be the following:

harry havnoonian custom 853 track frame + fork
high flange phil woods on open pros*
sugino75 crank*
46T sugino cubic chainring
sugino75 superlap bottom bracket
EAI 18T cog
izumi eco chain*
cinelli track drops* + soyo keirin grips*
cinelli stem
american classic headset
panaracer whateverthehelltireisontherearwheelofmypursuitbikerightnow*
MKS sylvan track pedals + two sets of EAI straps or time atac carbons*
suntour superbe seat post or american classic*
selle italia slr
slayer sticker for top tube
skull and crossbones sticker for seat tube


a less expensive version with the same frame would be:
surly hubs + ma3s or cxp21s
sugino75 cranks w/stock 49T ring*
shimano UN52 bottom bracket*
surly 18T cog
KMC 410H chain*
steel riser bars + solid BMX grip reapers*
nitto pearl stem
tange headset*
panaracer tires*
bargain bin metal platforms + clips and two sets of cristophe nylon straps*
whatever random seatpost i have lying around*
some bargain bin seat that was swapped out from another bike (every shop has used seats...EVERY shop)*
slayer sticker for top tube
skull and crossbones sticker for seat tube.


* = crap i already have.

I should have mentioned - it should be a steamroller frame and built for strength and durability!

Surly Steamroller frame,
Suzue track hubs,
Profile bar and stem,
Michelin tires,
Selle Italia Nitrox saddle,
Kalloy post,
Mavic MA3 rims,
Sugino crank (49T),
15t track cog,
s-ram pc chain,
egg beater pedals,
and an RX100 front brake

Ok you wise barbarians! Know your stuff? Show me YO SHIZZLE.

That's right! Show me your wrath! Show me you can build it better!

COME AND RISE TO THE CHALLENGE!

MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!

Woh cares? people will build to what they want anyway...

Surly Steamroller frame,
Suzue track hubs,
Profile bar and stem,
Michelin tires,
Selle Italia Nitrox saddle,
Kalloy post,
Mavic MA3 rims,
Sugino crank (49T),
15t track cog,
s-ram pc chain,
egg beater pedals,
and an RX100 front brake

Ok you wise barbarians! Know your stuff? Show me YO SHIZZLE.

That's right! Show me your wrath! Show me you can build it better!

COME AND RISE TO THE CHALLENGE!

MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!

I don't think I can top that....

well, if it's strength and durability ye be wantin', it's phil woods instead of suzue hubs you'll be needin'. or at the very least, surly hubs. the suzue sealed hubs don't have a very good rep. AFAIC. everything else looks okay, except maybe the michelin tires. armadillos are pretty effin' durable comparatively...but they're heavier. i'd go with a 17T cog instead of the 15, even with a front brake...maybe even an 18 or 19 just to save your back on take-offs.

and yeah, talking about how much tires weigh might be a little weight weenie-ish, but armadillos are super durable, but they feel like bricks compared to most tires.

dammit...i'm drunk and i wanna ride, but i'm to the point where riding might be a little hazardous to me health...

I should have mentioned - it should be a steamroller frame and built for strength and durability!

i think all the stuff i listed would be pretty durable...although the steamroller is a ****ing tank compared to anything made of 853...what with the steamroller made from 4130 and all...although, i like to think my lotus sprint track frame is more durable than a steamroller.

ZERG...drunked,

I'd second what OTS said about the 17 tooth cog, maybe even an 18, it depends on what your hills are like, I have been running 49x17, but just switched to an 18 so I can go on longer rides up more hills.

All parts should be dipped in 24kt gold.

So an update:

Surly Steamroller frame,
High Flange Phil Woods hub on open pros,
Cinelli Stem,
Panaracer Armadillo tires,
Selle Italia SLR seat,
Suntour superbe seat post or American classic,
36 spoke Mavic MA3 rims,
Sugino 75 crank (49T),
EAI 18t track cog,
izumi eco chain,
MKS sylvan track pedals + two sets of EAI straps or time atac carbons*
Sugino75 Superlap Bottom Bracket.
46T Sugino cubic chain ring
American Classic Headset
Cinelli Track Drops + Soyo Keirin Grips
and an RX100 front brake

Ok - the original post was to piss off people to come and show me the quality components. Damn if I know! I was going to Yojimbos but I am too white bread to go near the 'green. Basically I am going to assemble a list to send to him so he can mail me back all the parts without having to go near the 'green. Yes I am a suburbanite whoosie... So what?

So getting back to the topic on hand, how does this new list sound? Are we there yet? Out of curiosity, would a Chris King headset (even though it's $$$) be a better choice of headset?

I am going for durability baby - I'm not a weight weenie so if you see something that can be added or changed to suit this purpose let me know!

PS: I kind of need a final 'ok' from you guys by tomorrow... That's when I'd like to place the order for everything. Otherwise my fiance will hit me across the head and throw me in a well from driving her crazy. And you wouldn't want to live an episode of the Ring would you? Didn't think so! :p

forget the cinelli stuff... go for nitto b123 bars and stem. also, i'd lose the econo izumi and go for the njs model. just don't use the nut-and-bolt masterlink.

oh, and lose the front brake. all the cool kids run brakeless...

Ok - the original post was to piss off people to come and show me the quality components. Damn if I know.
We knew that.

Basically I am going to assemble a list to send to him so he can mail me back all the parts without having to go near the 'green. Yes I am a suburbanite whoosie... So what?

are you serious!? are you sure you're tough enough to ride a fixie if you're afraid of cabrini? most of cabrini is beamers and condos now anyway, cmon... suck it up and save some $$ and paper products on all that shipping.

just don't use the nut-and-bolt masterlink
any reason as to why on this? Thread strip out? Inquiring minds want to know...

So an update:

Surly Steamroller frame,
High Flange Phil Woods hub on open pros,
Cinelli Stem,
Panaracer Armadillo tires,
Selle Italia SLR seat,
Suntour superbe seat post or American classic,
36 spoke Mavic MA3 rims,
Sugino 75 crank (49T),
EAI 18t track cog,
izumi eco chain,
MKS sylvan track pedals + two sets of EAI straps or time atac carbons*
Sugino75 Superlap Bottom Bracket.
46T Sugino cubic chain ring
American Classic Headset
Cinelli Track Drops + Soyo Keirin Grips
and an RX100 front brake

I am going for durability baby - I'm not a weight weenie so if you see something that can be added or changed to suit this purpose let me know!

PS: I kind of need a final 'ok' from you guys by tomorrow... That's when I'd like to place the order for everything. Otherwise my fiance will hit me across the head and throw me in a well from driving her crazy. And you wouldn't want to live an episode of the Ring would you? Didn't think so! :p

i agree with jitensha...forget the cinelli stuff. i only listed it because i already have the bars. they're nice and all, but more expensive and could be hard to find. the nitto bars are much more accessible...

also, the suntour seatpost is another bit that i already have...they're not made anymore, so you'd have to go searching for them (they pop on ebay with a certain amount of frequency though). and the cubic chainring is like, a $150 chainring. the first list i made was basically a "dream bike" configuration....

i'm also not sure about the availability of the american classic headsets either...i know of two places here in the bay area where i could pick one up, but they definitely don't have them in stock or anything...

and the pedals are really a personal preference...if you want eggbeaters, get eggbeaters. same goes for everything else.

you should really check the prices on some of the stuff i listed...mostly because a lot of it is pretty expensive and not really worth it for a first fixed attempt. your first list was fine except the hubs. and i only say that because you were stressing durability.

the availability of the american classic headsets either...i know of two places here in the bay area where i could pick one up, but they definitely don't have them in stock or anything...

Would the Chris King headset be a great choice?

By the way I want to thank everyone for helping me out!

Would the Chris King headset be a great choice?


CK makes a great, very smooth headset, that looks pretty and has a great warranty. they're also expensive, and some of my friends have complained that they are difficult to install.

other companies make great, very smooth headsets that look pretty but lack the warranty. the warranty isn't really necessary though if you maintain your headset properly.

a CK headset would be an "okay" choice. they're fantastic and pretty and smooth, but not worth the money IMO...CK road hubs, are a different story entirely...

By the way I want to thank everyone for helping me out!

dude..if you're too whitebread to go to Yojimbo's, and you REALLY wanna go, call me and I'll take you down there...Im in Wrigleyville..... I should be available afternoons and nights this week, and next weekend, except for Saturday...

randy
im@tyrodot.com

']any reason as to why on this? Thread strip out? Inquiring minds want to know...

a few guys on the old skool track list have had problems lately with the nut falling off of the screw while riding... nothing catastrophic, but the conventional wisdom is to just ditch the masterlink and just join it with a chain tool. YMMV

oh, and strong g grips are nicer than the soyos.

Why not switch the frame to something made by ANT? http://www.antbikemike.com
Sweet stuff...all I want for X-mas is one of the Major Taylor antique track frames

Oh, I'll top that:

BRAND NAME,
BRAND NAME MODEL,
BRAND NAME WHICH IS GOOD
BRAND NAME WHICH IS TRENDY
BRAND NAME WHICH IS IMPRESSIVE BECAUSE IT COSTS MONEY
BRAND NAME WHICH BEATS MY STATE-ASSIGNED BRAND NAME IN YUPPIE ROCK-PAPER-SCISSORS

a few guys on the old skool track list have had problems lately with the nut falling off of the screw while riding... nothing catastrophic, but the conventional wisdom is to just ditch the masterlink and just join it with a chain tool. YMMV

oh, and strong g grips are nicer than the soyos.
word and double word. I figured a drop of loktite might nestle the nut nicely (ahh, alliteration). Thanks for the tip-

dude..if you're too whitebread to go to Yojimbo's, and you REALLY wanna go, call me and I'll take you down there...Im in Wrigleyville..... I should be available afternoons and nights this week, and next weekend, except for Saturday...

randy
im@tyrodot.com

It's not a big deal that I actually set foot in Yojimbos. If I get all the right parts together and send him an order he is still making money.

But thanks for the offer!

a CK headset would be an "okay" choice. they're fantastic and pretty and smooth, but not worth the money IMO...CK road hubs, are a different story entirely...

So who makes a better hub then, Chris King or Phil Wood?

-- Update Mk3 --

Surly Steamroller frame,
High Flange Phil Woods hub on open pros,
Nitto b123 bars and stem,
Panaracer Armadillo tires,
Selle Italia SLR seat,
Kalloy post,
36 spoke Mavic MA3 rims,
Sugino 75 crank (49T),
EAI 18t track cog,
Izumi Eco Chain NJS (NOT using don't use the nut-and-bolt master link),
MKS sylvan track pedals + two sets of EAI straps or time atac carbons,
Sugino75 Superlap Bottom Bracket,
46T Sugino cubic chain ring,
Chris King Headset,
and an RX100 front brake.

Target Budget: $1,250

So who makes a better hub then, Chris King or Phil Wood?

depends on what you'd be using it for. to the best of my knowledge, CK does NOT make a track hub, since the big draw of his hubs is the 72 pawl design. so, for track, i think if you're going for long-term durability, phil is the only way to go.

phil's cassette hubs are insanely heavy, BUT, i've seen many favorable reviews from tourers and tandem riders...

if i had to choose between the two for road, i'd go with the CK's just because they're light and offer nearly instantaneous engagement. not that i'm some sort of road freak or anything...but they're super nice hubs.

I know saddles are quite personal but..... brooks.
Really, it's got style, it's got grace, it'll outlast your bike if you take just a little care of it. Happy ass = perfect bike.

I don't want to go into brand names but why not get a cheaper headset and invest that money into a better frame? Then for style use disk brake only rims with the always loved Phil hubs. And for those that prefer clipless pedals, eggbeaters.

I don't want to go into brand names but why not get a cheaper headset and invest that money into a better frame? Then for style use disk brake only rims with the always loved Phil hubs. And for those that prefer clipless pedals, eggbeaters.

The Steamroller is a very durable frame with comfortable (read non-track) geometry.

Rather have a high quality headset. I am anti-maintenance and pro-quality. I want the components selected to reflect this.

I know saddles are quite personal but..... brooks.
Really, it's got style, it's got grace, it'll outlast your bike if you take just a little care of it. Happy ass = perfect bike.

I'll look into these! Any recommendations on a specific brooks model?

I went for that classic retro look on my Steamroller using Nuovo Record hubs & crankset, MA-3's, Parriba Pro Corsa tires, Eggbeaters, Shimano BB, EAI cog, Superbe Pro front caliper, Nitto bar & stem, Tange headset, IRD cyclocross lever, Miche seatpost, & Brooks Swift.

So why not just learn to ride smoother and get a better frame?

what would be a choice for a better frame?

Surly Steamroller frame,
Suzue track hubs,
Profile bar and stem,
Michelin tires,
Selle Italia Nitrox saddle,
Kalloy post,
Mavic MA3 rims,
Sugino crank (49T),
15t track cog,
s-ram pc chain,
egg beater pedals,
and an RX100 front brake

Ok you wise barbarians! Know your stuff? Show me YO SHIZZLE.



Soma Rush frame,
Surly (flip/flop) hubs,
Nitto B123 bar and Nitto Pearl stem 10CM,
Michelin tires,
Brooks B17,
Sakae FS -P15 seat pillar,
Mavic MA3 rims,
Sugino crank (44T--better for a beginnger),
15t track cog,
s-ram pc chain,
speedplay X pedals or MKS tracks with matching clips (your preference),
and an RX100 front brake (who gives a s**t if as long as it works

Ok - the original post was to piss off people to come and show me the quality components. Damn if I know! I was going to Yojimbos but I am too white bread to go near the 'green. Basically I am going to assemble a list to send to him so he can mail me back all the parts without having to go near the 'green. Yes I am a suburbanite whoosie... So what?

When was the last time you were on Clybourn? Have you seen it recently? Most of 'the green' is gone. Hell there is a Starbuck's two blocks away from Yojimbos. Find the stones you will need to ride that bike and go there in person. Besides going to the store is half the fun, this is especially true of Yojimbos!

When was the last time you were on Clybourn? Have you seen it recently? Most of 'the green' is gone. Hell there is a Starbuck's two blocks away from Yojimbos. Find the stones you will need to ride that bike and go there in person. Besides going to the store is half the fun, this is especially true of Yojimbos!
Seconded. Get outside your comfort zone (hell, fixie'll put you there once you decide to get one). See the world. Escape suburban decadence.

So who makes a better hub then, Chris King or Phil Wood?
Isn't this going to be a fixie? King doesn't make a fixie flip-flop just a SS and besides the spacing is 135. The steamroller is spaced at 120, which means you can't use them.

That aside, they are both excellent hubs. I have Kings on my mountain bike and Phils on my SS. Some people have a problem with the fishing reel sound the Kings make when you coast but you shouldn't be slacking off anyway.

Ok you wise barbarians! Know your stuff? Show me YO SHIZZLE.

That's right! Show me your wrath! Show me you can build it better!

COME AND RISE TO THE CHALLENGE!

MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!



Generic mid-80s Fuji frame with large F (as in F-U) on the fork blade
Headset that came with the bike
Seat post and cheap seat that came with the bike
Bottom bracket that came with the bike
RX100 from brake with time trial lever
Salsa stem
Tsunami bullhorns
175 Sugino cranks (42 T)
14T track pitch cog
Sachs track chain
Van Dessel rear wheel
Performance front wheel
Hutchison Carbon Comp tires
Black Cork tape
1 1/2 rolls of electrical tape for frame
Speedplay road or Ritchey MTB pedals (depending on ride)

Yuppie Factor - low
Go fast, get paceline props from roadies while commuting factor - high

I went for that classic retro look on my Steamroller using Nuovo Record hubs & crankset, MA-3's, Parriba Pro Corsa tires, Eggbeaters, Shimano BB, EAI cog, Superbe Pro front caliper, Nitto bar & stem, Tange headset, IRD cyclocross lever, Miche seatpost, & Brooks Swift.


How do those bars ride, The Fixer?

Yup, that is how to build the bike. Who cares what name brand stuff you have on your bike? If you are into that, you might want to hang out in the Road Bike forum and invest in some colorful spandex, haha.

What you do is build your bike, break it riding the piss out of it, fix it, ride it, break it....


Generic mid-80s Fuji frame with large F (as in F-U) on the fork blade
Headset that came with the bike
Seat post and cheap seat that came with the bike
Bottom bracket that came with the bike
RX100 from brake with time trial lever
Salsa stem
Tsunami bullhorns
175 Sugino cranks (42 T)
14T track pitch cog
Sachs track chain
Van Dessel rear wheel
Performance front wheel
Hutchison Carbon Comp tires
Black Cork tape
1 1/2 rolls of electrical tape for frame
Speedplay road or Ritchey MTB pedals (depending on ride)

Yuppie Factor - low
Go fast, get paceline props from roadies while commuting factor - high

Go ma3's and king, think very carefully about seat; nitto stem perhaps?



So an update:

Surly Steamroller frame,
High Flange Phil Woods hub on open pros,
Cinelli Stem,
Panaracer Armadillo tires,
Selle Italia SLR seat,
Suntour superbe seat post or American classic,
36 spoke Mavic MA3 rims,
Sugino 75 crank (49T),
EAI 18t track cog,
izumi eco chain,
MKS sylvan track pedals + two sets of EAI straps or time atac carbons*
Sugino75 Superlap Bottom Bracket.
46T Sugino cubic chain ring
American Classic Headset
Cinelli Track Drops + Soyo Keirin Grips
and an RX100 front brake

Ok - the original post was to piss off people to come and show me the quality components. Damn if I know! I was going to Yojimbos but I am too white bread to go near the 'green. Basically I am going to assemble a list to send to him so he can mail me back all the parts without having to go near the 'green. Yes I am a suburbanite whoosie... So what?

So getting back to the topic on hand, how does this new list sound? Are we there yet? Out of curiosity, would a Chris King headset (even though it's $$$) be a better choice of headset?

I am going for durability baby - I'm not a weight weenie so if you see something that can be added or changed to suit this purpose let me know!

PS: I kind of need a final 'ok' from you guys by tomorrow... That's when I'd like to place the order for everything. Otherwise my fiance will hit me across the head and throw me in a well from driving her crazy. And you wouldn't want to live an episode of the Ring would you? Didn't think so! :p

Why not switch the frame to something made by ANT? http://www.antbikemike.com
Sweet stuff...all I want for X-mas is one of the Major Taylor antique track frames
Sweet, I want one of them too!

bump for a good thread! im making a list of parts that will go on my new soma rush frame once it gets here. this thread is helping me to find the perfect mix for my ride. all the money im going to spend is going to be worth it.

ttt

bump for a good thread! im making a list of parts that will go on my new soma rush frame once it gets here. this thread is helping me to find the perfect mix for my ride. all the money im going to spend is going to be worth it.

ttt
Well, I've posted it before, but here's mine. I wouldn't change a thing: