Foo - They knew, and shipped anyway

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8 fatalities, 500+ ill and counting. (http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iH_omeaDBaB1UKxFZ4QGmvPKuuQQD960AUM00)
UnsafeAlpine
01-28-09, 01:45 PM
Yeah, pretty cool, huh? There need to be some motha****ers locked up for that one. :mad:
flyingscotsman
01-28-09, 01:45 PM
Line the top brass up against a wall and make them all eat their own tainted product.
Then jail them all.
artifice
01-28-09, 01:47 PM
I love peanut butter. LOOOVE it.
they're lucky I didn't get sick off it, or I'd be sicking a good lawyer on them. I'd be set for life!!
KingTermite
01-28-09, 01:47 PM
Yeah, I heard that last night and was floored!!!
That should be grounds for a manslaughter charge at least, in my book!
bigbenaugust
01-28-09, 01:47 PM
Can they be shot like the Chinese guys behind the poisoned milk?
UnsafeAlpine
01-28-09, 01:49 PM
I love peanut butter. LOOOVE it.
they're lucky I didn't get sick off it, or I'd be sicking a good lawyer on them. I'd be set for life!!
I'm diligently eating my peanut butter, just hoping I get a little sick. I'd suffer a little bit for the money I'd get. :p
How does one wake up in morning, look oneself in the mirror after giving that directive, and whistle while one works? *shaking head* wtf.
artifice
01-28-09, 01:51 PM
I'm diligently eating my peanut butter, just hoping I get a little sick. I'd suffer a little bit for the money I'd get. :phey if you find some of the "good stuff" aka, the salmonella PB, share the wealth of suing power, will you?
criminal negligence?
negligent homicide?
china's solution works for me.
UnsafeAlpine
01-28-09, 01:51 PM
How does one wake up in morning, look oneself in the mirror after giving that directive, and whistle while one works? *shaking head* wtf.
Sleeping on a pile of money really helps with that. :innocent:
ravenmore
01-28-09, 01:52 PM
somebody's going to jail and that company is probably hasta la vista.
Sleeping on a pile of money really helps with that. :innocent:
I guess. Wonder if they redecorated their offices first?
UnsafeAlpine
01-28-09, 01:55 PM
somebody's going to jail and that company is probably hasta la vista.
I'd like to think so, but I'm skeptical. Oh, someone may end up in the slammer, but all the bigwigs that run it will still be running it, just with a new PR team to smooth out their image.
Velo Vol
01-28-09, 02:14 PM
Thanks, Georgia.
ModoVincere
01-28-09, 02:18 PM
Thanks, Georgia.
your welcome...:innocent:
Can they be shot like the Chinese guys behind the poisoned milk?
I say yes, and bill the family for the bullet too.
lodi781
01-28-09, 02:20 PM
The sad part about all of this, is that i'm not surprised in the least. Not one bit. As horrable as this is, and i hope they get murder charges pressed on them, none of this surprises me. I swear it's crap like this that seams to be standard operating procedure for all large companies......:notamused:
ModoVincere
01-28-09, 02:21 PM
Can they be shot like the Chinese guys behind the poisoned milk?
I say yes, and bill the family for the bullet too.
Can't we just feed them their own products?
Grumpy McTrumpy
01-28-09, 02:22 PM
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huhenio
01-28-09, 03:46 PM
Can they be shot like the Chinese guys behind the poisoned milk?
Only could only wish ...
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51G4HYQKHCL.jpg
coasting
01-28-09, 04:09 PM
criminal negligence?
negligent homicide?
china's solution works for me.
negligent? knowingly selling fatal poison is morally the same as murder in my opinion. They should get what murderers get if proved to be knowing. If there is death penalty in the state then they should be subject to the fitting punishment for murder. I'm against death penalty in general, but where it is the legal punishment for murder they should face it.
Give em syphillis and send em to Saint Helena.
CliftonGK1
01-28-09, 04:30 PM
Unfortunately, in the USA it won't go down the same as the melmine scandal in China. Instead, the FDA will prosecute the company and the current staff who can claim knowledge of the issues (QA supervisors, Production Director, maybe Operations Managers) will be forced to step down or face criminal proecution. When they step down, the company heads will be able to claim that the "problem employees" invoved with the coverup are no longer employed, and therefore the problems will not be a re-occurrance. The people who step down will not be able to get a job because of the scandal, and the CEO will take a bonus for firing them before they could be brought to testify. The comapny, overall, will suffer and the shareholders will take a worse beating than what they're getting already with a weak economy, and when they finally oust the CEO, he'll sail off on a multi-million dollar contract severance and (for whatever unthinkable reasoning) some other company will sign him on for a ludicrous bonus and unreasonable severance agreement while his previous company goes t*ts-up and ruins the industry.
ilikebikes
01-28-09, 04:31 PM
Ill bet you a shiney nickle that nothing happens to them.
coasting
01-28-09, 04:35 PM
what they did in uk is pay off handsomely the execs, call it corporate manslaughter, nationalise the company, change it's name and claim it is a different company so no compensation claims are valid since the guilty company no longer exists.
responsible capitalism ... dream on
UnsafeAlpine
01-28-09, 04:37 PM
Privatize gain, socialize risk.
Over the last two years, Peanut Corp. of America found salmonella in a dozen internal tests of its products, but shipped them anyway after getting new tests.Wow.
Another vote for the China Solution.
Unfortunately, in the USA it won't go down the same as the melmine scandal in China. Instead, the FDA will prosecute the company and the current staff who can claim knowledge of the issues (QA supervisors, Production Director, maybe Operations Managers) will be forced to step down or face criminal proecution. When they step down, the company heads will be able to claim that the "problem employees" invoved with the coverup are no longer employed, and therefore the problems will not be a re-occurrance. The people who step down will not be able to get a job because of the scandal, and the CEO will take a bonus for firing them before they could be brought to testify. The comapny, overall, will suffer and the shareholders will take a worse beating than what they're getting already with a weak economy, and when they finally oust the CEO, he'll sail off on a multi-million dollar contract severance and (for whatever unthinkable reasoning) some other company will sign him on for a ludicrous bonus and unreasonable severance agreement while his previous company goes t*ts-up and ruins the industry.
I agree, though your skillful analysis was some straight up depressing **** to read.
ModoVincere
01-29-09, 09:57 AM
Privatize gain, socialize risk.
oooohh..look, someone's been hanging out in P&R.:innocent:
Eagle Kammback
01-29-09, 10:01 AM
those rotten *******s
Dude. (http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/01/28/salmonella.outbreak/index.html)
The plant produces peanut butter sold to institutions, such as nursing homes and cafeterias
Can't we just feed them their own products?
that one works.....
Velo Vol
01-29-09, 12:28 PM
"Peanut Recall Expands as Feds Release Findings (http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2009/01/pb_king_recall12.html)"
Nice.
Soon we'll learn that anyone who even looked at peanuts in the last six months is at risk.
I saw Jimmy Carter on TV at the inauguration. Should I be concerned?
huhenio
01-29-09, 12:41 PM
Sell the company to China.
Nationalize the problem in China.
I'll donate a box of bullets for the cause.
The action comes hours after federal officials released an inspection report that detailed unsanitary conditions at PCA's Georgia plant -- including roaches and mold -- and confirmed the company shipped peanut products it knew were contaminated with salmonella.
The FDA's inspection report (http://www.fda.gov/ora/frequent/483s/r_ATL-DO_PCA_Blakely_GA_Form_FDA_483_dtd_Jan_09-27_2009.pdf) (pdf file) of PCA's Georgia plant describes a facility riddled with unsanitary conditions, including:
• "Failure to manufacture food under conditions and controls necessary to minimize the potential for growth of microorganisms and contamination;"
• "Failure to maintain equipment, containers and utensils used to convey, hold, and store food in a manner that protects against contamination;"
• Failure to store finished food under conditions that would protect against microbial contamination;"
• "Failure to perform mechanical manufacturing steps so as to protect food against contamination;"
• "Effective measures are not being taken to protect against the contamination of food on the premises by pests."
The report also confirms the company shipped peanut butter products it knew were contaminated with various strains of salmonella 12 times in the past two year.
The salmonella strain Typhimurium is linked to the current outbreak.
According to the inspection report, PCA knew a sample of peanut paste -- identified as lot # 8278 -- tested positive salmonella Typhimurium. The company retested that sample and -- after it came back negative for salmonella -- shipped the peanut butter paste.
"This peanut paste was manufactured on 9/26/08 from (redacted) lb. totes of roasted peanuts received on 9/25/08," the report states. "The lots of roasted peanuts received on 9/25/08 were also used to produce the following products that were also shipped in interstate commerce: (redacted) totes used to manufacture (redacted) peanut butter under lot #8276; one tote was used to manufacture peanut butter for (redacted) under lot # 8277 and (redacted) under lot #8277."
Contaminated products shipped?
According the inspection report, PCA routinely shipped products that tested positive for salmonella.
It happened 11 other times since 2007.
Each time, the report states, PCA's products tested positive for salmonella. But after the company retested those products -- and they came back negative for salmonella -- PCA shipped the peanuts, peanut granules, and other peanut items.
Dirty conditions
Consider some of the dirty and contaminated conditions they discovered:
• A live roach and several dead roaches in the facility's wash room during an inspection on January 9. This bathroom is next to the facility's production/packaging area, the report states.
• Mold growing on the ceiling and walls in the facility's cooler used to store finished products. "In addition, water (http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2009/01/pb_king_recall12.html#) stains were observed running down from the cooling unit fans in the cooler," the report states. "On 1/10/09, pallets of finished product were stored directly beneath this unit;"
• The company did not clean the peanut paste line after the strain of salmonella Typhimurium was isolated in peanut paste made at the plant on September 26, 2008 (lot 8278). "The firm continued to manufacturer peanut paste in this system from 9/26/08 to the beginning of this inspection on 1/9/09." The report adds: "There are no records to document the cleaning of the peanut paste line after salmonella was detected in peanut pasted manufactured on January 25, 2008. The firm continued to manufacturer peanut paste in this system;"
• PCA stored totes of finished peanut products within 15 feet from a crack in the floor that tested positive for salmonella Senftenberg on January 10, 2009;
• Finished peanut products were stored on pallets within three feet of a spot on the cooler floor that tested positive for salmonella Mbandaka on January 10, 2009;
• Water stains and water streaks were found on the ceiling and the edges of the skylights in the production/packaging room. "Totes of finished, roasted product and a roasted nut packaging line are located directly underneath these areas," according to the inspection report;
• The sink located in the peanut butter room is used "interchangeably" as a point for cleaning hands and utensils and for washing out mops;
• A mesh-type conveyor was stored in the company's equipment/utensil wash room, which was used as catch-all storage area for buckets, stainless steel pipes, and floor mats. "The insides and end rollers of this conveyor were covered with a slimy, black-brown residue," the report states. "Additionally, the bottom sections of the wash room walls had areas of mold."
"We have been devastated by this, and we have been working around the clock with the FDA to ensure any potentially unsafe products are removed from the market immediately," said Stewart Parnell, President of Peanut Corporation of America. "Additionally, we are working alongside state and federal food safety experts in every way we can to help them protect consumers, both now and in the future."
He added: "We want our customers and consumers to know that PCA is taking extraordinary measures, out of an abundance of caution, to identify and recall all products that have been identified as potential risks."
Yeah...sure you are.
UnsafeAlpine
01-29-09, 01:00 PM
My new curse for these pricks is elephantitis of the testicles.
Well, I know that I won't be affected....
wirehead
01-29-09, 01:07 PM
The problem is that every time they talk about it, I want peanut butter.
I had oatmeal for breakfast, but I had to add some toast with peanut butter because I was craving peanut butter so much. (It was foofy-brand and thus likely free of salmonella)
ModoVincere
01-29-09, 01:10 PM
My new curse for these pricks is elephantitis of the testicles.
with all of foo getting to jump up and down on them while they are fully inflamed.
bikingshearer
01-29-09, 01:39 PM
How does one wake up in morning, look oneself in the mirror after giving that directive, and whistle while one works? *shaking head* wtf.
The same way tobacco company execs do it.
The same way tobacco company execs do it.
I disagree. Tobacco execs are inherently evil and have no souls. No disrespect to any tobacco execs in the house. They know what their product does. Peanuts & peanut butter are relatively innocuous, there is still the potential that their product will do no harm.
UnsafeAlpine
01-29-09, 02:34 PM
The problem is that every time they talk about it, I want peanut butter.
I had oatmeal for breakfast, but I had to add some toast with peanut butter because I was craving peanut butter so much. (It was foofy-brand and thus likely free of salmonella)
What kind of oatmeal? :innocent:
A little Salmonella never hurt anybody.
UnsafeAlpine
01-29-09, 02:45 PM
A little Salmonella never hurt anybody who didn't die from it or got sick from it.
FIFY :thumb:
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/MED_SALMONELLA_OUTBREAK?SITE=PAPIT&SECTION=NATIONAL&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
The chopped peanuts from Peanut Corp. of America in Blakely, Ga., were prevented by the FDA from being allowed back into the United States in mid-September because the peanuts contained an unspecified "filthy, putrid or decomposed substance, or is otherwise unfit for food," according to an FDA report of the incident.
The seizure of the peanuts in September is significant because it came just before the salmonella outbreak, said Caroline Smith DeWaal, director of the food safety program at the Center for Science in the Public Interest in Washington.
"It strikes me that if FDA was paying attention to this information, that they might have gone and done an inspection of the plant in September instead of waiting until after the products were associated with a major outbreak," she said. DeWaal said she thinks "the question for the agency is how did they use it when it happened."
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