Foo - I strongly dislike frat guys

A few weeks ago, my friend and neighbor took me to a keg party at some frat house. I already didn't like frat guys all that much, but the prospect of free "beer"(Miller High Life) overcame that. So, we had a few here, then headed over. The party was okay, typical college party, everyone in their cliques just BSing. So, I have my fair share of the "Champagne of Beers", then head home at about 3:00am. The next day, I went looking for my buddy, and I couldn't find him for a while. I just figured he was out running around. At about 5 oclock, I got an IM from him, turns out one of the AS*HOLE frat guys put some roofies in his drink!! We were thinking of going over to the house, but decided it wasn't worth a battle royale. He got an underage consumption charge, and a night in the hospital. Moral of the story: IT DOES HAPPEN, IT CAN HAPPEN TO ANYONE, even men.

Hey T820,

I'm old, what's a roofie?

hey,
people that do that give a bad name to fraternities everywhere! Parties are not like that at everyhouse, i know being in a fraternity right now. People can be duckheads when they are drunk, and i guess your friend didn't know the guys like he should have. If you dont know the people in the frat there is really no reason to go. About the underage consumption, I cant say one thing or another, if you're not 21 watch what you drink and where you drink it (becuase your not supposed to be drinking!).

sorry it happened to your friend. what fraternity was it by the way?

Hey T820,

I'm old, what's a roofie?

Its a "date ****" drug that pathetic losers slip into girls drinks to get them to pass out. I really hate how the world is shaping up.

BTW, I think it was Delta Sigma, but I'm not really certain.

Fraternities are like college herpies.

ready...

Fraternities are like college herpies.

They sure are

Man! Now I know I'm tired. I read the subject of this thread and mistakenly read FAT instead of FRAT. Ok, I'll go to bed now.

That is perhaps one of the sickest stories I have read in a while. Sorry for your friend. I admire your holding back from a possible stealthful lynching of those ..........well I cannot think of a word acceptabe to the forums to describe those vermin.

Its a "date ****" drug that pathetic losers slip into girls drinks to get them to pass out. I really hate how the world is shaping up.

Frankly, I'm astonished that such a drug isn't illegal. If it was, I'd be calling the cops. A little visit from "officer friendly" might have sorted out some of those tosspots.

Thanks for reminding me of just why I avoided these types of parties when I was at university.

Frankly, I'm astonished that such a drug isn't illegal. If it was, I'd be calling the cops. A little visit from "officer friendly" might have sorted out some of those tosspots.

Thanks for reminding me of just why I avoided these types of parties when I was at university.

"Officer firendly" in this case charged my friend with underage consumption, as opposed to going to the frat and busting things up...

It actually IS illegal. Unfortunately, roofies have a short lifespan in the body, so if you don't go to the hospital right away, there's no evidence, unfortunately. :(

I also think a lot of people don't report it because they either are embarrassed they got drugged or too traumatized by their experience to go to the police.

I hope your friend is ok.

Langston

good ole boys society

that sucks how much was the underage drinking ticket?

I went to lake havasu for college spring break back in march and had a good time ... drank a lot of beer every day and im only 19 but i made sure i was sober by the time we got back to shore. See the lake is right on the CA/AZ border so everyone hops in boats and goes to the CA side which is indian reservation so the cops cant come to that side of the lake ... but they catch people when the come back with overloaded boats or people who are weavin (yes people drive boats around drunk) ... the fine for being a minor under the influence was like 1k!! I think they jacked up what it costs cause it was spring break cause i never heard of it bein that high.

It happened to me once. Someone put one in my drink. I only had the 1 drink that night. I went to the bathroom and barely remember anything but waking up in my apartment. Everyone was curious why 2 of the guys who I did not know very well wanted to take me home. Luckily I had some good friends there to take me home.

It showed up in my blood the next day. Unfortunately, UNLESS someone else sees the person put the roofie in the drink and see the victim pick up that exact drink, it is your word against theirs.. The cops can't do a thing

At about 5 oclock, I got an IM from him, turns out one of the AS*HOLE frat guys put some roofies in his drink!!

they didn't...um..take advantage of him did they??

they didn't...um..take advantage of him did they??

that would be pretty gay of them if they did.

that would be pretty gay of them if they did.

I think a frat boy would rather kill himself than let his "brother" find out that he is homosexual. I'm not sure of the cost of the ticket, he hasn't gone to court yet. He went to the dean of the college today to fight it, but I haven't seen him yet today. They did not take advantage of him, and we think that the drug was intended for his girlfriend, but through some inconsequential event, it ended up in him. Anymore, if there is a party that has more than 30 people, I find an excuse not to go. I don't really feel like getting assualted...

BTW, studies of ****** show that the gender of the victim is inconsequential

A few weeks ago, my friend and neighbor took me to a keg party at some frat house. I already didn't like frat guys all that much, but the prospect of free "beer"(Miller High Life) overcame that. So, we had a few here, then headed over. The party was okay, typical college party, everyone in their cliques just BSing. So, I have my fair share of the "Champagne of Beers", then head home at about 3:00am. The next day, I went looking for my buddy, and I couldn't find him for a while. I just figured he was out running around. At about 5 oclock, I got an IM from him, turns out one of the AS*HOLE frat guys put some roofies in his drink!! We were thinking of going over to the house, but decided it wasn't worth a battle royale. He got an underage consumption charge, and a night in the hospital. Moral of the story: IT DOES HAPPEN, IT CAN HAPPEN TO ANYONE, even men.
The sick thing is that those frat boy meat heads are your future business leaders and politicians, lawyers ect... Just think of that for a minute.

And now the moral of the story.....

Don't drink if you are under age!

ok, this is a pet peeve of mine... I am NOT saying that this is a good example of "greek life" because it is not, but what I want to say is that not all greeks are this way, but these are the ones that you always here about and the chapters who had someone die from AP, but think of it this way...
why do cyclist get a bad rap sometimes? Because the thing that people remember is the one who was rude or in the wrong, they do not remeber the cyclist that they pass everyday on the road.
It is the same way for greeks, there are some really bad chapters (it is not the organisation, it is the individual chapter that is bad) and then there are some REALLY good chapters you just never hear about them

trekkie820-if you friend whom this happened to really want to get even, have him contact the fraternities national/international headquaters (assuming that it happened on their property) and ask to file a complant, most likely they will lauch and interal investigation on that chapter and if they broke there international rules, then they could very easly loose the charter

Sorry for the rant, but I am greek, hence the username, I am not from the Fiji islands

Frankly, I'm astonished that such a drug isn't illegal. If it was, I'd be calling the cops. A little visit from "officer friendly" might have sorted out some of those tosspots.

Thanks for reminding me of just why I avoided these types of parties when I was at university.


They are illegal. Even just having them in your possession, at least in CA they are, will get you tossed in jail.

this is why i don't like beig around people that get high or drunk.

and n7c7... stop being so insecrue... go get some from yer woman! ;)

ok, this is a pet peeve of mine... I am NOT saying that this is a good example of "greek life" because it is not, but what I want to say is that not all greeks are this way, but these are the ones that you always here about and the chapters who had someone die from AP, but think of it this way...
why do cyclist get a bad rap sometimes? Because the thing that people remember is the one who was rude or in the wrong, they do not remeber the cyclist that they pass everyday on the road.
It is the same way for greeks, there are some really bad chapters (it is not the organisation, it is the individual chapter that is bad) and then there are some REALLY good chapters you just never hear about them

trekkie820-if you friend whom this happened to really want to get even, have him contact the fraternities national/international headquaters (assuming that it happened on their property) and ask to file a complant, most likely they will lauch and interal investigation on that chapter and if they broke there international rules, then they could very easly loose the charter

Sorry for the rant, but I am greek, hence the username, I am not from the Fiji islands

I know that not all greeks are like this...I actually have a friend that is a frat guy(I make fun of him constantly) and he wouldn't do that. Most probably wouldn't. What really pisses me off about them is their attitude towards everybody else, which is to look down on everyone who isn't in their frat. That is the common thread between the majority of frat guys. The Fiji's here are ESPECIALLy like this, not to come down on your frat or anything, but that is my personal experience with the Fijis

And now the moral of the story.....

Don't drink if you are under age!

did you even read the story? Underaged drinking had nothing to do with the fact that his drink got spiked, it could have easily happened if he was 21 or older also. The only reason he got the ticket is cause alcohol was in his system when they pumped his stomach im assuming.

The sick thing is that those frat boy meat heads are your future business leaders and politicians, lawyers ect... Just think of that for a minute.

Wrong. The future business leaders etc were the ones who didn't go to the party because they were studying for the exam. These meat heads are probably the ones who will end up in an ordinary job (at best) when they finish college -- assuming they ever get over complaining about how "hard" the final exam was.

Never liked the frats here. What was done was just wrong.

As someone else said somewhere around bikeforums... I don't dislike frat guys, you need someone to deliver the pizza hot ;)

Wrong. The future business leaders etc were the ones who didn't go to the party because they were studying for the exam. These meat heads are probably the ones who will end up in an ordinary job (at best) when they finish college -- assuming they ever get over complaining about how "hard" the final exam was.

I think you're assuming that people are employed based on their merits. I didn't think you were that naive.

I think you're assuming that people are employed based on their merits. I didn't think you were that naive.

You might be surprised. Did you have any idea how hard some of the other people who "graduated" with me found it to find work? I had a job lined up six months before I finished.

Perhaps I should rephrase my original post to read something like "they're the ones who will be complaining about needing to resort to 'services rendered' to find a job". :D

Even if the job isn't awarded to them based on merits, they'll still learn some pretty harsh facts of life once they actually get out into the real world.

does anyone know the statistic of how many presidents/senatetors/house represenatives were/are greek? I do not know it, but it is a lot higher then one would think

trekkie820-no hard feeling about you thinking fiji's are bad at your campous, if you think they suck then they probally do, i hate that (the fact that no all of my chapters are stellar chapters) but nothing can be done

presidents-

1-Hayes-delta kappa epsilon
2-Garfield-delta upsilon
3-Arthur-psi upsilon
4-Harrison-phi delta theta
5-McKinley-sigma alpha epsilon
6-T. Roosevelt-delta kappa epsilon
7-Taft-psi upsilon
8-Wilson-phi kappa psi
9-Coolidge-phi gamma delta
10-F. Roosevelt-alpha delta phi
11-Truman-lambda chi alpha
12-Eisenhower-tau epsilon phi
13-Kennedy-phi kappa theta
14-Ford-delta kappa epsilon
15-Reagan-tau kappa epsilon
16-G.H. Bush-delta kappa epsilon
17-G.W.Bush-delta kappa epsilon

Wrong. The future business leaders etc were the ones who didn't go to the party because they were studying for the exam. These meat heads are probably the ones who will end up in an ordinary job (at best) when they finish college -- assuming they ever get over complaining about how "hard" the final exam was.

If you were to say the same thing about blacks or Jews or any other denomination I'm sure it wouldn't be tolerated, so why is this any different, unless of course you know every single person who's ever been part of a frat.

As a member of Phi Sigma Kappa, I can vouche that academics is a very big part of our chapter, even though we do like to have fun also. There are many brothers who have a 3.5 or higher on a 19 credit load. And some of the seniors I've talked to have jobs lined up with a starting salary in the $50,000's. So saying that all frat boys are a waste of life (which is true for some, as always) is very ignorant on your part.

Going to rose puts a bit of a spin on greek life. Being in Lambda chi alpha, we are mostly about grades (going to rose will do that too you) but on the weekend, relaxing (whatever that may be) is the name of the game. You can be a very successful person while still being drunk, and stupid some days. Thats just life....

I do agree that your friend should write to their nationals and see if an as investigation can be started, or at least somethimng. Beleive me there is nothing more scary than nationals saying "one more time and..... " the responcible people in the house will start to crack down on wreckless stuff really quick.

again, not all greek life is like this, and I'l sorry for that you got to see the very worst greek life has to offer to the public.

-Ross

phi theta kappa isn't considered a fraternity is it? :(

As a member of Phi Sigma Kappa, I can vouche that academics is a very big part of our chapter, even though we do like to have fun also. There are many brothers who have a 3.5 or higher on a 19 credit load. And some of the seniors I've talked to have jobs lined up with a starting salary in the $50,000's. So saying that all frat boys are a waste of life (which is true for some, as always) is very ignorant on your part.

I didn't say all frat boys were a waste of life, I said all frat boys who partake in the activities described at the top of this thread were a waste of life, and I stand by it. I'd equally say the same thing about any other group or classification of people.

Okay, I guess you've redeemed yourself. I do agree that drugging people's drinks is wrong in every sense, but I don't see the harm in an occasional social get-together. Just my two cents.

phi theta kappa isn't considered a fraternity is it? :(

not a social fraternity, just because they (phi theta kappa, and others) use greek letter does not make them a social fraternity, that one is an honor society

If you were to say the same thing about blacks or Jews or any other denomination I'm sure it wouldn't be tolerated, so why is this any different, unless of course you know every single person who's ever been part of a frat.



I did not realize fraternities were a protected class. You learn something everyday.

Just another story that should convince people that being part of the crowd and attending this type of thing is a mistake from the very begining.

I hope and pray I can raise my daughter to be secure enough that she will never see a need or even have the desire to attend BS frat parties. Typically you cannot trust this kind of thing as being anything more than an arrangement where someone will be lurking for the opportunity to screw someone else in some way or another. A breeding ground for predators, alcoholics, druggies, and generally stupid @$$ behaviour.

Yes im wiht trekkie820 on this one, I had a horrible run in with the Fiji frat here in Austin as well. My friend (girl) got sick one time at there parties and she called me to come get her. She called me on her cell phone and said she was inside the house on the couch and when I got there to go in, they said i couldnt go in that i wasnt invited. I told them i was only there to pick up a friend. And they got loud (they were drunk) and said i wasnt welcome. with me being 6'5 250lbs, I told them i was going in the damn house whether they liked it or not. I got the girl and 3 of her friends, and they STILL had a problem..saying I was taking their girls. I really thought something was going to go down. It was a very bad situation. I seems like these frat guys think they run everyone and everything. It becomes a pack thing. They team up on people. I swear if it was only 1 guy, he would keep his mouth shut. And Fiji your right, not all are bad just the majority

Yes im wiht trekkie820 on this one, I had a horrible run in with the Fiji frat here in Austin as well. My friend (girl) got sick one time at there parties and she called me to come get her. She called me on her cell phone and said she was inside the house on the couch and when I got there to go in, they said i couldnt go in that i wasnt invited. I told them i was only there to pick up a friend. And they got loud (they were drunk) and said i wasnt welcome. with me being 6'5 250lbs, I told them i was going in the damn house whether they liked it or not. I got the girl and 3 of her friends, and they STILL had a problem..saying I was taking their girls. I really thought something was going to go down. It was a very bad situation. I seems like these frat guys think they run everyone and everything. It becomes a pack thing. They team up on people. I swear if it was only 1 guy, he would keep his mouth shut. And Fiji your right, not all are bad just the majority

damn, i hate that now twice my fraternity has come up in a bad light... has anyone had a good experience with a social fraternity/sorerity, other then the one that you belonged to?

Some stupid ass frat tried to charge me 20 bucks to get into their party once! He said, girls are free, guys are 20 bucks. I don't remember exactly what I said, but it winded up with him getting all pissed off at me and blah blah blah

damn, i hate that now twice my fraternity has come up in a bad light... has anyone had a good experience with a social fraternity/sorerity, other then the one that you belonged to?

The university here in my home town was known as a "party school". (I haven't heard that lately..maybe the times are changing!) I attended the university here to get my degrees in the 70's....wild times. I didn't go to many frat parties, but the ones I did attend reminded me way too much of the movie Animal House.

Oh, for years I was the director of an alternative school here in east Texas in the late 70's and early 80's. This was back when alternative schools were more like free schools than schools for behavior problems like they are now. I do have to say that the local sororities and fraternities were EXCELLENT about coming and doing volunteer teaching at the school, having work days on weekends to build playground equipment, holding fundraisers for us, etc. So aluckyfiji, there are some positive statements about good experiences with sororities and fraternities for you!

aluckyfiji, I dont mean to put your fraternity in a bad light and it really sucks how a small few can ruin it for the rest. Im sure there are some really nice guys in your frat as well as the one in here in Austin at the University of Tx. My point of the post was that it seems when you mix alcohol and frat "brothers" together they become a pack like an animal pack. And they seem to do stupid things or say stupid things because they have the backing of each other. Another problem i have with fraternities is, how can you justify paying money to just basically have friends?...I know a guy in a frat and if he didnt pay his dues and wasnt in the frat, they wouldnt hang out with him. I just dont quiet understand that aspect of it

has anyone had a good experience with a social fraternity/sorerity, other then the one that you belonged to?
never belonged to one, but they did beat the **** out of a friend of mine at ISU. And since I no longer like him and have decided to become a revisionist regarding my own life experiences, I thank them for that. But that's as close as it gets.

Fraternities are like college herpies.

Quoted again for massive truth.

Hell, if you can't make friends, buy 'em...

Hell, if you can't make friends, buy 'em...

Maybe somebody should enlighten you as to how the fraternity/sorority system works. Anybody wanna volunteer?

Just another story that should convince people that being part of the crowd and attending this type of thing is a mistake from the very begining.

I hope and pray I can raise my daughter to be secure enough that she will never see a need or even have the desire to attend BS frat parties. Typically you cannot trust this kind of thing as being anything more than an arrangement where someone will be lurking for the opportunity to screw someone else in some way or another. A breeding ground for predators, alcoholics, druggies, and generally stupid @$$ behaviour.

Better keep her away from the football team too :p



']never belonged to one, but they did beat the **** out of a friend of mine at ISU. And since I no longer like him and have decided to become a revisionist regarding my own life experiences, I thank them for that. But that's as close as it gets.

I got beat up by 3 frat a$$es at a party once because I bumped one of them wrong in the mosh pit, the mosh pit for krist sakes. None of whom took me on my offer for a one at a time meeting however. They're like a pack of dogs. A bunch of drunk idiots who clean up the highways on the weekend oh how good for society they are. And yes they ALL are like this! just kidding...

Maybe somebody should enlighten you as to how the fraternity/sorority system works. Anybody wanna volunteer?

I think he just did...