Clydesdales/Athenas (200+ lb / 91+ kg) - So you think you're slow?

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DelusionalDude
02-02-09, 08:23 PM
Alright, I've been reading a lot of posts from people saying how "slow" they are. Some even commenting that they would ride with slower riders, if they could find any.

Well I'm here to tell ya, I'm him!

I've been riding since September, and my average speed is a whopping.....
wait for it....
wait for it....

10.6mph!

Top that! Or uhhh, beat that! I mean.... be lower, oh you know what I mean.


Jtgyk
02-02-09, 08:28 PM
My average speed for my commute today was 9.65mph.

I've been riding for over a year now, and the highest average speed I've achieved (I believe I remember correctly) was 12.5 mph.

JoelS
02-02-09, 08:43 PM
I rode with my son yesterday. Our average was 9.6. How's that?

I rode the day before. 52 miles, 3000 feet of climbing, avg 16.6. I've been riding only since the very end of last April.

Are you having fun? If so, that's a good chunk of why you're cycling. Don't sweat it.


Wogster
02-02-09, 09:27 PM
Alright, I've been reading a lot of posts from people saying how "slow" they are. Some even commenting that they would ride with slower riders, if they could find any.

Well I'm here to tell ya, I'm him!

I've been riding since September, and my average speed is a whopping.....
wait for it....
wait for it....

10.6mph!

Top that! Or uhhh, beat that! I mean.... be lower, oh you know what I mean.

Who really cares? I mean I have been tracking my riding since 2007, that year I had 11.2MPH as the annual average, 2008 was 11,2 as well.... Being slow is only a problem if your racing, if your not racing, then it really doesn't make much difference, except that it makes it a real drag if you want to do very long distance rides.

There are three ways to fix it, if you don't like it, if your on a MTB, then usually the issue is that the bike comes with snow tires, you want a nice smooth high pressure tire, the other issue with mountain bikes is that they are geared low, so if you find yourself running out of gears on the top end, then you need taller gears. MTBs usually have a fair amount of wind resistance. Although usually the biggest problem is the engine, sprint training can help, as can often hill training. More riding will also help.

I have more to say, but I have to go catch a bus to work....

PATH
02-02-09, 09:35 PM
It is not about speed it is about time spent on the bike having fun! Well, that is how I look at anyway!:)

DelusionalDude
02-02-09, 09:49 PM
I don't really care either. I am having fun on each ride!
I have been able to challenge myself and do more over time. It's just funny to me how many people were talking about riding 30, 40, or 50 miles and more, and still talking about being slow.

As much as anything, I guess I'm poking fun at myself. As long as I still have to use my "granny gear" I don't think i'll worry about running out of gears on the top end.

Oh, i'm not worried about wind drag on my bike. Even the widest part of my HKEK is still just a fraction of the width of the girth that is me.

munski1968
02-02-09, 10:05 PM
Are you going over a lot of rolling hills?

StephenH
02-02-09, 10:59 PM
I've got a Worksman cargo trike that weighs maybe 75-100 lbs. I rode it in a charity ride a while back, and rode the 16 mile route. That took me two hours, so that's averaging 8 mph. But, I actually passed some people doing it.

I rode in the Jackrabbit Stampede a while back. It's one of these charity rides that bills itself as a race, though 80% of the people there aren't racing anyone. Anyway, it's an out and back route, and the longer routes come back the same way. So as I was headed back in, the 2 lead riders on that longer route passed me. I think they were doing 30 mph, really hauling buns. It was another 5 minutes before the next guys back passed me. Anyway, the moral is, no matter how fast or how slow you ride, there's other people out there doing the same thing. Don't worry about it, have fun, keep riding.

rdtompki
02-02-09, 11:32 PM
Too many variables and as others have said, "not important". I just want to be fast enough to ride centuries in a reasonable time (7 hours?) and keep up with other folks. So far most of my hard riding is solo, but when my wife and I ride I suppose we average 15 mph or so over relatively gentle terrain (15 miles or so).

Mr. Beanz
02-03-09, 02:56 AM
My best average was 14.08











...............100 miles with 10,000 ft of climbing!:D

aenlaasu
02-03-09, 03:36 AM
My slowest average is around 6.8. mph That's just a combination of me having problems with wind/hills and the husky being slower on the stretches than usual. Generally, with the dog, I average around 7.6 and a few times we've done 8.4 mph average which I'm very proud of the furry one when he manages those.

Solo, my general average is 9.8 or so. I've managed to wring out a 10.4 mph average a couple times.

I can cruise along at 15 mph on my Trice QN-T for flat stretches and little or no head wind. The times I'm against the wind and hills are what just kill my averages. Evil knees. :rolleyes:

The only time I really worry about speed is during the short days here in Sweden. When it's warm enough and little enough ice to get out and I want to cycle 50 miles, but only have 4 hours of good light. Makes me wish for a 13 mph average. During our long summer days, I just have fun and add up the miles. :)

flip18436572
02-03-09, 05:01 AM
I really don't think speed matters. I ride a road bike for my miles, so I can't really tell you what would compare to what you ride as I don't know. I have rolling hills and on my 40 mile loop, I usually average between 16 and 17 mph. With some of the winds we have in Iowa, that has dropped to 12 for the same loop. On our normal breezy (5 - 15 mph) days it is the 16 mph. I have ridden in some winds that wasn't safe for me to be on the road, so I turned back around and headed home after only 5 miles out. I ride on the highway and don't want to get pushed into a semi. I averaged 11.5 mph that day and was really frustrated with my day.

evblazer
02-03-09, 08:09 AM
I'd love to have a little more speed. Speed of course is most important when you are racing but when you have long commutes being slow is yet another barrier that you must get through every morning to get on that bike and ride.
It is also a little depressing looking at people with alot less hours pass me in total miles.
Last year my hours in motion was 577:51:49 and my averge speed was 13.64 mph
Getting stomped in total miles by someone who was on their bike for only 544:31:06 is annoying but then their average speed was 18.15 :(

Neil_B
02-03-09, 08:28 AM
When I was in my peak physical condition in September 2007, I managed 12 MPH on a 'flat' century. On tour in June and August 2008 I averaged 10-11 MPH pulling 40-50 pounds in a trailer.

My problem isn't speed, but having to stop as often as I do, combined with my lack of bike handling skills. That's what makes my 34 mile round trip commute take 200 minutes.

seenoweevil
02-03-09, 10:04 AM
My average keeps coming up between 11-13 mph. I was getting frustrated at first, but after thinking about it I really only care because I'd like to get in more miles in a little less time for the fitness aspect, and I'd like to get stronger to finally try some group rides with a local club. I still haven't contacted them because of my insecurity with my fitness level.
One more thing. After a bicycling fatality in a neighboring city during the $4/gal gas phase, a local lbs owner (don't know who it was, but I sure wish I did so I'd never go there) told the news person that people shouldn't be on the roads on their bikes with automobile traffic if they couldn't maintain at least 15 mph. I know that is bull, and I'm incensed that someone could say something that insensitive and (in my opinion) completely incorrect, but I still find myself trying to reach that average at the end of the ride.

IceNine
02-03-09, 10:13 AM
I started riding a bike last summer. Was I ever slow at first. This year I want to increase speed a little and increase stamina a lot. I also want to get faster climbing. I get passed by roadies when I am out on hilly rides. Last year the best I did on a flat 20 mile course was 16.8 MPH. Doing a double loop on that course brought my average down to 13.1 MPH. On a different hilly 34 mile route I did 14.8 MPH.

evblazer
02-03-09, 10:20 AM
My average keeps coming up between 11-13 mph. I was getting frustrated at first, but after thinking about it I really only care because I'd like to get in more miles in a little less time for the fitness aspect, and I'd like to get stronger to finally try some group rides with a local club. I still haven't contacted them because of my insecurity with my fitness level.
One more thing. After a bicycling fatality in a neighboring city during the $4/gal gas phase, a local lbs owner (don't know who it was, but I sure wish I did so I'd never go there) told the news person that people shouldn't be on the roads on their bikes with automobile traffic if they couldn't maintain at least 15 mph. I know that is bull, and I'm incensed that someone could say something that insensitive and (in my opinion) completely incorrect, but I still find myself trying to reach that average at the end of the ride.
You might try and see if you local club has a social ride. Our Saturday ride have lots of regroups and people of all speeds to ride with. New riders usually get a few folks riding back with them no matter what the pace. There may be some limit though I'm not sure what would happen with a 6-7mph rider but 10mph+ has never been a problem. If you like you could setup someone to call you a little bit into the ride so you can bail on the ride because something came up. Just think of it like dating ;)
That 15mph thing wow. I am pretty sure the driver won't notice the difference between you going 10 or 15 when they are going 3x-5x your speed or more. I've probably ridden up a few hills at 4mph or less on roads where folks were going 60+mph talk I wonder what he'd say about me :o

VA_Esquire
02-03-09, 11:16 AM
Time > Speed
I would rather cycle for 5 hours at 9mph than 2 hours at 15mph.

DelusionalDude
02-03-09, 12:20 PM
All my riding has been on the roads in and around my neighborhood. But this area is known as the "Plains", so it's not really big hills. I guess I just want go faster and further!

There are some social rides in this area, and I'm working on joining them. But my pride gets in the way, and I don't want the group to have to wait for me. And I am not too confident in my skills for a group ride yet either. More important than speed is that I am getting better at bike handling and traffic awareness. Safety first! Right now, I am working on setting a pace, whatever it might be, and being able to hold it there.

And I got passed by a roadied last weekend too! Of course, he didn't speak, or stay around long, we were going uphill. :)

Missbumble
02-03-09, 12:33 PM
Alright, I've been reading a lot of posts from people saying how "slow" they are. Some even commenting that they would ride with slower riders, if they could find any.

Well I'm here to tell ya, I'm him!

I've been riding since September, and my average speed is a whopping.....
wait for it....
wait for it....

10.6mph!

Top that! Or uhhh, beat that! I mean.... be lower, oh you know what I mean.


Slow and steady my friend...Kep on riding. The trick is you are on a bike not on the couch..and think of all the great stuff you probably saw on the bike! Speed I think comes with time...and intention. For me- I am getting stronger and hope to do drills onthe Trainer - other friends who ride centuries and tour - just stay at the same speed forever.. No problems...go at your own pace - or increase with intention.

Sue

Bill Kapaun
02-03-09, 06:52 PM
What bike are you riding?
If you have a 40 lb. MB with aggressive Knobby tires, your speed isn't bad at all!
Other factors, like a seat that's way too low, can kill your efficiency.

donalson
02-03-09, 11:30 PM
speed is relative... its very different if you are on the road or on the trail... riding the flats or doing serious climbing... if you are on a real road bike or on a knobbied mtb...

i picked up 2mph average on a 10 mile ride just by going from "smooth rolling" mtb tires to slick centered CX tires

i'm slow... but i'm working on that...

txvintage
02-04-09, 01:27 AM
I think it's a natural progression to at least think about avg MPH and distance. I think it's a definate step in the pregression we C&A members jouney onward to.

We start cycling to lose weight. The honest fact is speed and distance don't matter and shouldn't be our focus so much as just getting out there and doing it. The sheer change in behavior is a momentus thing, and progress and triumphs have many metrics.

I've greeted new members in the past and have stated that while we may have started cycling to lose weight, somewhere along the line we become cyclist who happen to be losing weight. I don't think it's unnatural to become at least aware of how we do on the bike and lend some thought to getting faster or being able to ride farther. In fact, I would say it's a sign you are starting to ride more for the enjoyment of riding rather than focusing on calories burned and weight lost.

We all have differnt challenges and differnt abilities. The trick is to not get too caught up in anything other than maximizing your own potential and realizing your own level of enjoyment.

bongo_x
02-06-09, 11:29 AM
I know how to fix all those "I feel slow" problems. Get rid of your computer. I don't have any idea how far I ride, and since I'm not usually wearing a watch or paying attention, I don't know how long it took me.

Mostly off road. I realize this is probably physically impossible for true roadies.

cyclokitty
02-06-09, 12:45 PM
I don't think I'm slow, I am slow :p

Last year I averaged about 16 km per hour on a good day. Bad day? All hilly with crummy traffic? Oh, about 12 km, 7 on a steep hill (steep for me... I've watched people climb no problem. Makes the Cyclokitty jealous...)

bcc
02-08-09, 08:01 AM
My average speed over the last year is 11.6 mph, but a lot of that is short commute runs. On longer rides it tends to drop to somewhere around the 10 mph mark.

Slow as that may be, it's a hell of a lot faster than I was this time last year before I started riding. I'm only competing with myself at the moment, and so far I'm winning.

IceNine
02-08-09, 08:21 AM
. . . it's a hell of a lot faster than I was this time last year before I started riding. I'm only competing with myself at the moment, and so far I'm winning.

This is a super point of view. It is easy to get discouraged if you compare yourself to others, but if you keep working at losing inches off the waist, losing weight and getting faster and stronger, that's what really matters.

Neil_B
02-08-09, 08:26 AM
My average speed over the last year is 11.6 mph, but a lot of that is short commute runs. On longer rides it tends to drop to somewhere around the 10 mph mark.

Slow as that may be, it's a hell of a lot faster than I was this time last year before I started riding. I'm only competing with myself at the moment, and so far I'm winning.

Wonderful, although I fear a resident English usage 'expert' will chime in when he reads your comment about competing against yourself.

Scummer
02-08-09, 08:27 AM
What's even more crushing is the fact that last year before the flood in September I was able to hang onto the group at 24-26mph avg during our Tuesday night race training.

Been of the bike since that September until January this year and have not managed to ride more than 13 mph avg. Pretty much all my fitness from last year is gone. Poof, out the window. And I wanted to win races this year. haha... yeah.. right.

10 Wheels
02-08-09, 09:05 AM
2-08-09

2179 miles
12.357 mph
176.22 hours on the bike
31.8 top speed on a flat road 2-06-09

Neil_B
02-08-09, 10:17 AM
The Commonwealth of Pennsylvania knows I'm slow. I was clocked by a scanner as I passed one of those "Your speed" electronic signs. It kept flickering between 8 and 9 MPH as I climbed the 1 per cent grade on Pughtown Road.

1bluetrek
02-08-09, 10:41 AM
Yesterday 20 miles 11.3 avg. But Like cyclokitty said, at least I was on the bike and not the couch!

pipes
02-08-09, 02:53 PM
Alright, I've been reading a lot of posts from people saying how "slow" they are. Some even commenting that they would ride with slower riders, if they could find any.

Well I'm here to tell ya, I'm him!

I've been riding since September, and my average speed is a whopping.....
wait for it....
wait for it....

10.6mph!

Top that! Or uhhh, beat that! I mean.... be lower, oh you know what I mean.

Just about what I do I did 28 miles today and it was 11.1 but thats fast Iam normaly about 10.7 or there bouts . BUT I am never ever in a hurry . Let the speed demons do there thing we see more a the world :thumb:

considering I was riding my Fred tricked out Torker 7 speed Boardwalk crusier Iam 53 yr old speed demon :) I got up to 26 mph once it scared me to death coming off a hill :) I mean come on 300 lbs coming down a hill on 2 wheels at 26 mph ya its scarry :))))

TrekJapan
02-08-09, 02:55 PM
You are faster than every single person sitting on the couch.

John

Jtgyk
02-08-09, 04:00 PM
Just about what I do I did 28 miles today and it was 11.1 but thats fast Iam normaly about 10.7 or there bouts . BUT I am never ever in a hurry . Let the speed demons do there thing we see more a the world :thumb:

considering I was riding my Fred tricked out Torker 7 speed Boardwalk crusier Iam 53 yr old speed demon :) I got up to 26 mph once it scared me to death coming off a hill :) I mean come on 300 lbs coming down a hill on 2 wheels at 26 mph ya its scarry :))))

350 lbs...30mph...scrreaming wooohoooo!!!

Then it was 4mph up the next hill.:thumb:

DelusionalDude
02-08-09, 04:06 PM
350 lbs...30mph...scrreaming wooohoooo!!!

Then it was 4mph up the next hill.:thumb:

That pretty much describes my rides!
I wish someone would tell my mountain bike that it is a mountain bike, it's not supposed be scared of a few molehills!

DTSCDS
02-09-09, 12:23 AM
I rode a 40 mile ride last September. Averaged about 14 mph. The bike has sat in the apartment since then. This past Saturday I thought it was high time I tested out the old saying that you never forget how to ride...
I decided to ride one of the group rides at the LBS. They have a 14ish mph average, 20 mile ride. The next one down is a 10 mile beginner's ride--as slow as they need to go. I opted for the 20 miler. I started out at the very back of the pack and worked my way up to the front group within the first mile or so going through residential streets. I was going like a goose! Then we hit the first "hill" (about the same grade as an overpass for maybe 1/4 - 1/2 mile). Pretty soon some guy came up beside me and asked if I was okay. I wheezed out that I thought I would make it. I looked in my mirror and couldn't see anyone behind me and the folks in front of me were getting smaller and smaller.
Long story short--I bailed out at the beginner ride turn around point where I waited and rode back in with them.
Fairly humbling but at least I was out there again. I will take me a little while but I will be back to a comfortable level before too long.
I'll never be one of the hard-chargers but at least I'm having fun!
So, everybody, keep it up and remember how far you've come...

donalson
02-09-09, 12:47 AM
Just about what I do I did 28 miles today and it was 11.1 but thats fast Iam normaly about 10.7 or there bouts . BUT I am never ever in a hurry . Let the speed demons do there thing we see more a the world :thumb:

considering I was riding my Fred tricked out Torker 7 speed Boardwalk crusier Iam 53 yr old speed demon :) I got up to 26 mph once it scared me to death coming off a hill :) I mean come on 300 lbs coming down a hill on 2 wheels at 26 mph ya its scarry :))))

haha i do love to see peoples faces out on the trail when hitting the DH sections... i'm a 300# guy and as long as the trail isn't pointed up i can keep up... if it's pointed down i'm riding my brakes to not roll over the guy in front of me (seems them skinny guys are pretty slow DH)... but i don't realy think but around 20mph max though there (tight singletrack)

35mph on the road is FUN... as long as the bike isn't getting twitchy or anything get in that aero tuck and just pound... theres a few areas around here with lower speedlimits that you can go as fast as traffic for a bit if you hammer... sure it's shocking for em to see a fatty doing the pedaling haha