Foo - One year.

Yep. It's been that long. One year ago today. Awesome... :(

I'm also 30 and I've never even been engaged. I'm finding that's pretty strange... yay.

I'm also 30 and I've never even been engaged. I'm finding that's pretty strange... yay.That's ridiculous.

I'm not 30 yet and have been married twice. One and a half divorces too.

Edit: Embrace the fact that you've never been married.

Yep. It's been that long. One year ago today. Awesome... :(

I'm also 30 and I've never even been engaged. I'm finding that's pretty strange... yay.

It says you joined BF 14 months ago.

he's talking about his first period. it's been one year. his hormones are very inactive.

don't worry, I've never had a serious relationship, ever.

I'm 34, i've never been engaged, so what? I'd rather wait for the right girl, then rush it with the wrong one.....

Yep. It's been that long. One year ago today. Awesome... :(

I'm also 30 and I've never even been engaged. I'm finding that's pretty strange... yay.

That just means you're taking your time to find the right person. Nothing wrong with that.

Better to be non-married than married to the wrong people several times.

oh, and don't worry, more and more people are more concerned about their carriers than marrying and having kids these days. particularly in western cultures.

The title of this thread has David Bowie's Five Years stuck in my head.

That is all.

It could mean you really don't prefer women.

I prefer women.

You post too much to be with a woman boy.

phew, that means I must be off the hook with pheard.
:innocent:

Are you hitting on me?

well, HI there.

It could mean you really don't prefer women.

could be... :innocent:

That which does not kill us makes us stronger. Hard to believe at the time it's happening, but it's true.

I non-mortally shoot and stab myself on a regular basis. Someday I will be the strongest man alive.

unless they're a dislocation of a joint or a concussion, which only get worse from the initial one.

Yep. It's been that long. One year ago today. Awesome... :(

I'm also 30 and I've never even been engaged. I'm finding that's pretty strange... yay.

It's been over 1 year since i was a blithering mess on these forums and in front of my friends. That was the biggest waste of time ever. I threw out a whole semester of my Sr. year in college over a woman. Pathetic...

Very few of them deserve that pedestal, and the one that does deserve it will never make you realize it.

could be... :innocent:

That's the second time this week i've seen you elude to that. Just sayin...

Very few of them deserve that pedestal, and the one that does deserve it will never make you realize it.

Interesting.

I'm with Timmyquest. It took two successive and hard break-ups (both within four months of each other) to throw me down the toilet of despair and near-dysfunction for about two years or so. I learned a lot from then to now, but it's been something of a hard road.

I'm not sure if you've done this, but since you've been single for so long, you really have to take time (as much as you need) to really evaluate why you've been single for that long. In my case, being introduced to the pick-up community helped reveal exactly what I was lacking to really connect with women (and others) and find the one that I wanted, and not the other way around. I was an intelligent, somewhat outgoing, physically fit and extremely caring dark-skinned guy (I don't play the race card often, but this does matter), but I discovered while I was single (and through Lance Mason) that these characteristics are not enough. There are tons of guys that possess exactly those same characteristics; what makes me stand out compared to them? What makes people want to get to know me?

(I should note that I no longer practice that "PUA" stuff. It's actually really lame and, if anything, invigorates the problems that they try to "solve." The fundamentals that they teach are absolutely critical, however.)

After realizing that, I went out to better define who I was through things that I wanted to do. I learned how to cook (not to make a career off of it, but definitely good enough for an evening date), be confident in myself (this changes everything; you set the rules when you're confident, and speaking as such can get pretty much anyone to support you), changed my diet and engaged with other people. I mention this a lot, but approaching random women in subways helped significantly in improving my communication skills; there really are few social exercises tougher than making someone feel comfortable enough to have a decent conversation with you in less than ten minutes and in a very high-risk setting.

I can say with high certainty that I would have definitely not been with who I am today without going through all of that. She's amazing, beautiful, an absolute joy to be around and understands the need for space (without being super disconnected from me). Additionally, while I'm very happy with her, I understand that life goes on if and/or when it ends, and I'm prepared for that as well.

Maybe this is easier said now that I'm in a pretty good relationship, but if you're biggest goal is to "be with someone," then you really need to spend more time finding yourself. Once you know and really like who you are, then others will like you...and the (usually good) women will follow. However, my cousin once (wisely) said that "women will hardly ever approach you, unless your Nick Lachey; you have to do the work. You have to not think." It's really not that hard when you talk to them like a person rather than girlfriend potential...(It's actually kind of easy now to spot people fetching for a date, and women can pick that up a LOT faster.)

Sorry that I wrote so much, but this was an issue that really affected me too. When I was into the PUA scene, the "masters" at it made several references as to how most men have no idea what dating is about. I may not be the most successful dater, but I tend to agree with them.

I was an intelligent, somewhat outgoing, physically fit and extremely caring dark-skinned guy (I don't play the race card often, but this does matter), but I discovered while I was single (and through Lance Mason) that these characteristics are not enough.

Don't forget humble :thumb: ;)

Are you still hanging around with ex-girlfriends?

Don't forget humble :thumb: ;)

Yer makin' me blush, man! Stop with that :)

*snip*

Crassic, you need to let sleeping dogs lie.

Sorry; I'll delete that. I wasn't sure if that was an issue as of late; if it were, it would be an obvious problem.

oh, and don't worry, more and more people are more concerned about their carriers than marrying and having kids these days. particularly in western cultures.

You mean like FedEx, UPS and what not?

Better to be non-married than married to the wrong people several times.

+eleventy billion Getting out of a marriage from the wrong people is not an easy thing to go through.



I'm also 30 and I've never even been engaged. I'm finding that's pretty strange... yay.

It's not strange. Count your blessings. I married the man I met when I was 17. What did I know at 17? You have much more life experience at 30 than a naive 17 year old and will probably not find yourself in my current situation.

Oh, and being in your 30's is absolutely the best. I love being over 30! Embrace it and enjoy it. :D

You post too much to be with a woman boy.

He wants a woman boy?








What's a woman boy?

He wants a woman boy?








What's a woman boy?

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/photo/2007-02/15/xin_59020415202076465187.jpg

^^

How can you tell?

^^

How can you tell?

Adams apple

Seems like MUCH MUCH MUCH longer than a year to me.:innocent:

Girls only want boyfriends who have great skills. You know, like nunchuck skills, bowhunting skills, computer hacking skills...

I wasn't here a year ago.... what happened, exactly? EDIT: On second thought I don't think I want to know.

As for the unmarried jazz... my sis-in-law was completely unattached at 30, even 31. They she met my brother and by the time they got married she was 32. (He was 28 when they got married). They've been married 20+ years.

30 isn't that late historically, especially for guys. (At least in my family.... I've done the genealogy). You still have time.

STILL single at 50+. Only thing I've found strange is how heavily society values your worth by how "family" you are. Even someone with multiple divorces is seen as more 'stable' than someone who admits they don't want to get married, don't want kids, and doesn't want the whole pre-preogrammed fairy tale fantasy/family values nightmare.

STILL single at 50+. Only thing I've found strange is how heavily society values your worth by how "family" you are. Even someone with multiple divorces is seen as more 'stable' than someone who admits they don't want to get married, don't want kids, and doesn't want the whole pre-preogrammed fairy tale fantasy/family values nightmare.

There's this river in Africa...

I'll be 30 next month, and I've never been engaged. In fact, I've only been in two romantic relationships of any kind and neither were anywhere near serious enough to even begin to consider engagement. One lasted for less than three months and the other for less than two. That was in late '96 and early '97. So for the last 10-12 years while you were probably dating women I was dating no one at all. Sometimes people refer to human existence on the earth as a mere blip in the life of the planet. Well that blip is my dating life. :lol: Also, don't get too down on yourself about not being engaged or married. Almost every married person I know (I'm not counting those on BF) has told me never to get married and they usually seem pretty miserable much of the time. When I was 18 and sad because I didn't have a girlfriend, I thought I wanted a wife and kids like everyone else. Now I'm kind of glad I had so little luck with women all those years, because I've realized that the last thing in the world I want are kids, and I'm not sure I'd want to be married, either. Those years of loneliness and near-depression wound up helping me avoid something I didn't know I'd want to avoid in the future. :o

I wasn't here a year ago.... what happened, exactly?

UA was turning all Timmy on us, we had to do what Foosters do and be there for both of them. We listened to them, we felt bad for them, we sent them well wishes. Then when it got to be a bit redundant we smacked them both in the head. It became an emo contest but UA was quickly overtaking Timmy.

Long story short, we never abandoned them and we love them both.

And they are stronger people today than a year ago.

And they are stronger people today than a year ago.

And i found a sexier lady who has more personality. :o

So what if you were never engaged? Being engaged or married, does not determine your self worth.

Anniversaries of painful days are tough, I'm sorry you're having a hard time with it. :(

It's been over 1 year since i was a blithering mess on these forums and in front of my friends. That was the biggest waste of time ever. I threw out a whole semester of my Sr. year in college over a woman. Pathetic...

Very few of them deserve that pedestal, and the one that does deserve it will never make you realize it.

Timaaaah!
I cant think of a better thing to waste a year on than a women.Is that not part of what life is about?
Saddle up,get your bait in the water,get it out there to get it going on.

+eleventy billion Getting out of a marriage from the wrong people is not an easy thing to go through.



It's not strange. Count your blessings. I married the man I met when I was 17. What did I know at 17? You have much more life experience at 30 than a naive 17 year old and will probably not find yourself in my current situation.

Oh, and being in your 30's is absolutely the best. I love being over 30! Embrace it and enjoy it. :D

You don't look a day over 25.:love:

Timaaaah!
I cant think of a better thing to waste a year on than a women.Is that not part of what life is about?
Saddle up,get your bait in the water,get it out there to get it going on.

There is a difference between wasting a year with a woman and wasting a year over a woman.

I just wasted a year with a woman, it has been one of the best years of my life (only in part due to her)


All the good ones have a little Shadiyah in 'em
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3087/3174085986_5f527de26e.jpg

That's an awesome pic.

You don't look a day over 25.:love:

You are incredibly kind. {blush** Thank you! ;)

It took me until I was 24 to find a guy worth dating. If things don't work out with him, I've pretty much accepted I'll lead the single life with several FWBs to keep me sane. :p