Clydesdales/Athenas (200+ lb / 91+ kg) - Im sorry I ask so many questions

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VA_Esquire
02-19-09, 09:22 AM
When I get into a hobby I try to dive in head first and learn everything I can (paintball, motorcycle racing, and archery to name a few haha)
I was wondering if someone could help me out, I am wanting to build a bicycle from scratch and am trying to find a list of all the parts needed to build it.
I have a very basic list:
Frameset (w/ fork)
Handlebars
Headpost
Crankset
Pedals
Derailluers
Seatpost
Saddle
Brakes
Wheelset
Tyres


Is their anything else I am missing?


IceNine
02-19-09, 09:48 AM
shifters/brake levers
chain
bottom bracket
tubes
cable housing/cables

bigvegan
02-19-09, 09:57 AM
I have a very basic list:

OK, I'll add to it.

Frameset (w/ fork)
Headset (probably already there)
Seatpost (with saddle collar / seatpost bolt (probably already there))
Saddle
Handlebars
Grips / bar caps (to avoid "core sampling" if you take a bad fall)
Headpost
Brakes (plus Brake Levers & Brake Cables/Housing)
Crankset (plus Bottom Bracket / crank bolts)
Chain
Pedals
Shifters (probably indexed, so make sure the shifters match the derailers in terms of # of gears) (plus shifter cables/housing)
Derailluers
Wheelset (plus 2 sets rim tape / skewers / bolts if your wheelset doesn't have them.)
Cassette/Cogs (If not part of the wheelset)
Tyres
Tubes (Slime tubes or add tire liners)
Misc Hardware (and lights/bell/u-lock etc.)

Pick your budget, double it, then be pleasantly surprised when you don't hit the new limit.

Buy a U-lock if you don't have one already.


VA_Esquire
02-19-09, 10:12 AM
:( alot more than I thought.....Im guessing it much cheaper to just buy a pre-assembled bike then to build one.

bautieri
02-19-09, 10:56 AM
Head set press
pedal wrench
crank extractor
allen wrenches (if you don't have them already)
cable cutters
1980's building stuff music

lutz
02-19-09, 11:00 AM
:( alot more than I thought.....Im guessing it much cheaper to just buy a pre-assembled bike then to build one.

Indeed, much cheaper, the prices for spare parts are pretty prohibitory.

IceNine
02-19-09, 11:00 AM
That depends. If you are buying a quality used bike and you are willing to patiently hunt craigslist until you find a bargain, then you can rebuild an older bike for much less than what a new one costs. Otherwise you're right it would be cheaper to buy a complete bike.

Esp if you have a budget less than $400 or so, I think used bikes give you a lot more for your money.

andrelam
02-19-09, 11:14 AM
:( alot more than I thought.....Im guessing it much cheaper to just buy a pre-assembled bike then to build one.

Unless you have some special requirements, or you realy know where to get great bargains (good equipment for a low cost, not just cheap components), then buying a complete bike is generally a much better bet. I bought a road bike last year with mainly Ultegra components for around $1400. If I'd bought just the Ultegra Grouppo components I would have spent about $1000, I would still have had to buy a frame, wheels, etc. The OEMs get much better pricing on components than consumer can.

There are loads of nice bikes out there. Find out what kind of riding you intend to do. This will dictate the kind of bike you will need. Then go and find local bike stores and ride a bunch of bikes. There are lots of subtle differences in frame geometry. What fits one person well might not fit you (and visa versa). Buying a frame without having ridden the bike can lead to poor bike fitment.

If you need some help figuring out what bike you need let us know.

Happy riding,
André

Little Darwin
02-19-09, 11:19 AM
For the most part, you will end up paying more in effort and money to build your own... but depending on your objective, it may still be worthwhile.

I just thought of the old Johnny Cash song "One Piece at a Time" about sneaking pieces to build a Cadillac home from his job on the assembly line over the course of years... and the mismatch of parts he took to build his own Cadillac caused a lot of work, and a strange car, but it didn't cost him a dime... ;)

bigvegan
02-19-09, 12:12 PM
alot more than I thought.....Im guessing it much cheaper to just buy a pre-assembled bike then to build one.

YES INDEED! From a financial standpoint, your options are, in increasing order of cost:
1. Find a high quality used bike from someone who's selling it at a garage sale / craigslist / etc. in great condition for a good price.
2. Buy a new bike from bikesdirect or other similar quality discount outlet.
3. Buy a new bike from the LBS.
4. Build a new bike from the frame out with LBS parts. (Or pay too much for a used bike in poor condition and have to rebuild it with LBS parts.)

(But there's nothing like building up a bike the way you want it, if you have access to tools and a budget for the parts. The experience and finished product may be worth it, especially if you want anything custom. If you just want a bike like an off the rack MTB, buy one off the rack.)

VA_Esquire
02-19-09, 12:21 PM
Im a college student with only the tools my dad has in the garage sssoooo, Im pretty limited financially and mechanically :P

IceNine
02-19-09, 12:30 PM
Well, building a bike from the frame up would require some skills, but I am not handy at all and if I can do it anyone can. Where do you live? Many urban areas have bike coops where you can go and use the community tools. There are also many resources on the web and in your local public library that can walk you through all the things you need to know to work on bikes. Google Sheldon Brown for a start.

A good way to learn is to buy a really cheap $20 steel road bike from the 80s. Take it apart and put it back together again. Sell it and then you'll be ready when you buy a slightly nicer vintage bike that you'd like to keep.

lambo_vt
02-19-09, 01:55 PM
A good way to learn is to buy a really cheap $20 steel road bike from the 80s.

Good luck. At least in my area, even junk from the 80's goes for $150 or more. Fixed conversions, I guess.

wrk101
02-19-09, 06:07 PM
:( alot more than I thought.....Im guessing it much cheaper to just buy a pre-assembled bike then to build one.
+1 Unless you troll the thrift stores, garage sales, Craigs List, etc. You can pick up a donor bike cheap. Add a decent frame, and you have a great bike. I have built some nice bikes this way for $30 or less.

mkadam68
02-20-09, 05:08 AM
Im a college student with only the tools my dad has in the garage sssoooo, Im pretty limited financially and mechanically :P

Building a bike will require a few specialized tools (it's probably safe to bet your dad didn't have them). The knowledge you can pick up for free here as well as on Park Tools website and others.