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Rick@OCRR
02-27-09, 01:01 PM
Article by my friend Bob Allen, Madison, WI about bike bells. How 'bout you?

Originally published by Sustainable Times

Photos by: Mikael at Copenhagenize

Bicycling For the Rest of Us - Ring That Bell! by Bob Allen.

http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee179/bikephoto1/BicycleBellPhoto1.jpg

There was no pleasing the boss at a bicycle shop I worked for years ago. I could sell one of the most expensive bicycles in the place and come off the sales floor to be greeted by a scowl.

Selling a bicycle, even an expensive one, was never enough. You had failed unless you also made sure the bicycle rolled out of the shop bristling with accessories. “Sell bells!” the shop owner would exhort.

Accessories offer a much better profit margin than bicycles. Bicycles don’t have much markup. After paying shipping costs and investing significant time to properly assemble and adjust a machine, financing overhead expenses and the time spent finding a buyer for the thing, it’s a wonder many bicycle shops can keep their doors open.

Many could not survive without the profit generated by their service departments and accessory sales. And herein lies a conundrum.

Bicycling is inherently simple. All you really need is a bicycle. You don’t need fancy add-ons. You don’t need special clothing. All you need is a bicycle and the will to make it move.

In providing a dazzling array of doodads, the bicycle industry is indeed creating potential profits for local bicycle shops. But it also is making a simple thing seem more complicated than it needs to be.

Does this discourage potential riders? I suspect that anything that makes riding a bicycle seem more out of the ordinary than it already is perceived to be might be counterproductive. If, for example, people feel they need to get fully kitted out in the latest bicycling attire before venturing out, how many actually venture out? How many fewer bicycles get sold if people think buying a bicycle means equipping an entire new lifestyle?

Without question, high tech clothing designed specifically for bicycling can help a serious or competitive rider go faster and farther in greater comfort. But for the rest of us, everyday clothing works just fine.

Civilian clothes are better, in fact, if you are riding someplace where you will end up mingling with non-riders. There’s just something about wandering around in clickity shoes and bright tight Spandex that makes one stand out in a crowd.

There are many useful things that can be added to the basic bicycle. Baskets, racks and bags make it possible to bring home the groceries or carry an extra layer of clothes for changes in weather.

Fenders or mudguards can keep a rider caught in the rain a bit more comfortable while keeping debris off the bicycle. Lights can stretch riding time and are especially useful given the short daylight hours of a Wisconsin winter. A good lock is advisable for any bicycle left exposed to the criminal elements. A few basic tools can help keep you going out on the road.

http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee179/bikephoto1/BicycleBellPhoto2.jpg

And bells, ah bells. The old bicycle shop owner was right on this one. But it’s not about ringing cash register bells. A good bell is a civilizing addition to any bicycle. Not necessary, but nice.

None of these add-ons is necessary for traveling around on a bicycle. I just took a perfectly comfortable 20-mile ride with temperatures in the high 30s wearing the kind of plain old clothes that allowed me to blend right into the crowd of bluegrass fans at my destination.

If you have a good coat, or enough layers, and some good gloves or mittens, a warm scarf – essentially what you need to get through a Wisconsin winter anyway – you have all the clothing you need to ride a bicycle in the winter. Summer, of course, is easy. Ride as you are.

Rejection of bicycling-specific clothing is a first step toward reining in the “otherness” of bicycle riders. This simple stance rises to high fashion at the fabulous Danish web site www.copenhagencyclechic.com (http://www.copenhagencyclechic.com). The site’s curators have the curious belief that the everyday act of riding a bicycle doesn’t require you to look like a space alien. In fact, they chronicle example after example of ordinary people looking quite marvelous while riding bicycles.

Copenhagen, of course, is a city where bicycles are more ingrained in the culture than here in the upper Middle West. Bicycles seem to move freely throughout Copenhagen without many of the dreary little controversies that stalk two-wheelers here.

Many of these stateside controversies seem to be stoked by an “us versus them” mentality -- drivers versus bicyclists -- bicyclists versus pedestrians. When “us and them” blend, it’s much harder to point fingers.

Of course, it’s not so simple. Some of the finger pointing, even the middle finger, can seem well deserved if you are the offended party.

Some drivers subject riders to needless danger through inattention or malicious intent. These road hogs don’t understand that bicycle riders have an equal right to the road. Likewise, too many bicycle riders don’t realize that along with that right guaranteed by law comes an obligation to follow that law.

And even well intended and otherwise polite riders sometimes seem oblivious to how the simple act of breezing by a pedestrian on a trail can startle the heck of the unsuspecting biped.

And here is where the simple bell saves the day. A bell allows a rider to announce his or her approach in a gracious, non-threatening way. A nice bell gives the kind of cheery warning to a pedestrian that is almost always appreciated. I have a beautiful little brass bell on my three-speed that sustains its note for seven seconds. It could double as a call to meditation. I’ve even had people complement me on the sweet tone of this bell.

Contrast such warmth and appreciation with the reaction of somebody who has just been startled by a bicycle silently swooshing by at speed. The startled pedestrian probably doesn’t feel very warmly toward bicycle riders at that moment.

Communication works wonders, and it is not limited to rider-walker interactions. It is also a common courtesy, though often overlooked, for a faster rider to alert a slower rider who is being overtaken. A bell isn’t necessary for communicating with pedestrians or other riders. A simple announcement of “passing on your left” will do. But there’s something about a bell that makes the interaction sound more pleasant and less like a declaration of dominance.

Communication is not just common courtesy. It’s the basis of safe riding in traffic of any kind. While a little bell won’t help a rider in dealing with motorists, clear hand signals and riding in a predictable straight line – in other words not making the motorist guess -- will make sharing the road much more pleasant for all involved.

A simple bell will not change the world and make lions lie down with lambs. But the courtesy of using a bell -- or hand signals, or the directional signals in your motor vehicle -- surely can’t hurt. It’s a start.


DnvrFox
02-27-09, 01:16 PM
I do. All 6 bikes.

Jet Travis
02-27-09, 01:23 PM
One of my bikes has a woody. No kidding:
http://www.mirrycle.com/woodpecker.htm


ecletic1
02-27-09, 01:27 PM
Agree totally! Going to find a friendly bell as I will be riding mostly on bike paths...used to ride in NYC traffic 30 yrs ago but people weren't on cells and texting!

roadfix
02-27-09, 01:28 PM
Only on my mountain bike.

reverborama
02-27-09, 01:50 PM
I like using a bell. It's just as good as "On your left" and it is as good as a nod when passing someone going the other way.

Tom Bombadil
02-27-09, 01:53 PM
I have bells on all of mine, and I, too, have a woodie on one. It's a good looker, but not much of a bell.

As far as being a good bell, the Incredibell Silver is very good. I like the looks of the brass one better, but the silver one has a great tone.

The people that I pass, yes I do pass a few people - pitiful as that is, (well, some are walkers) like my bells. I've received many positive comments on them.

Artkansas
02-27-09, 02:21 PM
On 3 of 4 bikes. My American Eagle/Nishiki 10 classic 10 speed does not.

I find a bell is more understood than "On Your Left". And in Little Rock, cycles are required to have a device. I think that the voice would qualify, but members of the local advocacy group do not, so I go with them.

My Giant Stiletto chopper is mostly ridden in parades, so it has a loud, classic-style bicycle bell, while my road commuting bikes go for the more minimalist Zefal "ping" bells.

BengeBoy
02-27-09, 02:28 PM
I bought my first bicycle bell last summer and just took it off over the weekend. It seemed much more civilized than bellowing "on yer left" and people, and, as we've discussed on this forum before, "on yer left" seems to startle and disorient people. However, the bell never seemed to work (at least for me). People didn't seem to react or hear it at all.

I'm back to bellowing...

pianoplayer
02-27-09, 02:28 PM
I have them on a number of bikes. They are handy for signalling other cyclists or pedestrians.

I have had difficulty finding bells that fit on road bike bars.

Longfemur
02-27-09, 02:32 PM
I use a bell on my road bike. Having to warn people by yelling at them gets pretty old pretty quickly. They don't always react to a bell, but they don't to shouting either. It's also useful just let another rider know you're behind and passing. But I guess it depends on where you ride.

aidy
02-27-09, 02:37 PM
I have a bell, and I use it. You are required by law to have them, but afaik only in a few cities the police actually tickets bicyclists beyond not having lights.

alicestrong
02-27-09, 02:41 PM
My mostest favorite...chimes like a 50's doorbell...Diiiinnggg-Dooooonnnggg!

You can't really appreciate the huge size of this baby from the picture...

http://www.geocities.com/alicestrong@sbcglobal.net/ChromeBell.jpg

Most girly bell...I like the ones with compass added, too.

http://www.geocities.com/alicestrong@sbcglobal.net/FlowerBell.jpg

Benjamin11
02-27-09, 02:53 PM
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n114/benjamin1ss/PICT0002.jpg


I love my little bell. People (non-cyclists) ask me why I don't take it off - " I like it "..

aidy
02-27-09, 03:11 PM
heh i got it set up the same way :)

pipes
02-27-09, 03:18 PM
Yap on all my bikes nice loud brass ones AND an Airzound for IDIOTS

alicestrong
02-27-09, 03:18 PM
heh i got it set up the same way :)



I think that's the best road bike setup.

stapfam
02-27-09, 03:26 PM
I have a bell. I keep it in my pocket for throwing at the Bu**ers that don't hear me me yell out "Bike Behind" on the Mup's

I have a loud horn on the tandem. It is never heard and on one memorable occasions after some one told me I ought to get a bell- their next remark was "You don't have to use that language".

George
02-27-09, 03:50 PM
I wear a cow bell.

Tom Bombadil
02-27-09, 04:00 PM
I have a bell. I keep it in my pocket


Something like this?

Tom Bombadil
02-27-09, 04:11 PM
Take a look at the bells on this blog: (http://goldiebike.blogspot.com/)

I have the baseball bell on one bike.

Tom Bombadil
02-27-09, 04:14 PM
Here's another good bike bell

Pamestique
02-27-09, 04:20 PM
I have them on my mountain bike for obvious reasons but not on my road bike. A friend and I were talking about this last weekend - with all the bike path riding I do a bell wouldn't be a bad idea. People for some reason are more conditioned to hear a bell and understand what it means. Yell "on yer left" and people go in all directions, usually to the left!!!

Monoborracho
02-27-09, 05:15 PM
One of my bikes has a woody. No kidding:
http://www.mirrycle.com/woodpecker.htm

Which one is harder, the paduak or the cherry?

kr32
02-27-09, 05:26 PM
I bought my first bicycle bell last summer and just took it off over the weekend. It seemed much more civilized than bellowing "on yer left" and people, and, as we've discussed on this forum before, "on yer left" seems to startle and disorient people. However, the bell never seemed to work (at least for me). People didn't seem to react or hear it at all.

I'm back to bellowing...

Glad you wrote this as I have been thinking of a bell for when I ride the 5 mile part of my normal 20+ mile ride there are people walking and I ususlly do the "on your left" thing. It seems that most the time they seem startled and I was thinking a bell would be better.
However I also thought a bell would not let them know which way to go and I would still be wondering where they are going. I'm sticking with the "on your left" thing. As you said ,they might not even hear a bell.

kr32
02-27-09, 05:32 PM
One of my bikes has a woody. No kidding:
http://www.mirrycle.com/woodpecker.htm

Trouble with that is they just might stop and start looking for the woodpecker and never get out your way.

Sixty Fiver
02-27-09, 05:36 PM
Without bells we could not sing the cycling song my 8 year old daughter made up...

"Crashing.. and burning... is how we learn " *ding * * ding *

DnvrFox
02-27-09, 05:57 PM
Glad you wrote this as I have been thinking of a bell for when I ride the 5 mile part of my normal 20+ mile ride there are people walking and I ususlly do the "on your left" thing. It seems that most the time they seem startled and I was thinking a bell would be better.
However I also thought a bell would not let them know which way to go and I would still be wondering where they are going. I'm sticking with the "on your left" thing. As you said ,they might not even hear a bell.


My theory is that when you say "on your left" the pedestrian has to:

1. Figure out which way is left - a bit difficult for some folks, believe it or not.

2. Figure out if he/she is supposed to go left, since you just said left.

3. Put it all together and actually do something.

OTOH, I find that most folks are used to being passed on the left, and "passing" gets an automatic move-right response.

europa
02-27-09, 06:06 PM
If people hear a bell ring, they might ignore it, they might panic, but they will think 'bicycle'. Those that do understand that we need to share the space we're about to occupy together, appreciate being warned that a bike is there, even if they then do the wrong thing.

No-one appreciates being yelled at, even if they do understand the message being given.

No warning device works all the time. At least with a bell, the majority of people know what they're dealing with and regardless of the pedestrian's actions at the time, I get more smiles and 'thankyous' with a bell after the incident than with any other method.

I also get more positive reactions (ie, getting out of the flamin' way) to a bell than with any other warning but that might just be good luck ... or possibly because I give a double ring a long way back, then another if needed when closer ie, I actually give the pedestrian time to work out what's happening and to react.

I also get my fair share of idiots that leave me wishing I was driving a jeep with a big bull bar, but you can't help that segment of society.

Richard

roccobike
02-27-09, 06:08 PM
No, nicht, nope, no bells.

DnvrFox
02-27-09, 06:18 PM
There is an interesting "bell phenomenon" I have discovered.

I have one of those single "ding" or perhaps "plunk" bells.

If I ring it just once from a bit of a disyance back, about 50% of the time the ped thinks they have dropped a coin out of their pocket. They will stop, turn around, look on the ground, etc. About that time, I ring it a 2nd time, and then they get the picture. Every now and then, I "innocently" play that little game with the peds.

Louis
02-27-09, 06:22 PM
I enjoyed the piece written by your friend, Rick.:thumb:

Here's what I posted on DnvrFox's thread:

I seldom ride on mup's, towpaths etc. where I've had mixed results using a bell. A few laughs can be produced by dinging the bell and, in a cheerful voice, announcing "ice cream man". Seems the best way to co-exist with clueless pedestrians is a firm "bike passing on your left".

Clicking the brake levers works sometimes, as well.

kr32
02-27-09, 06:30 PM
My theory is that when you say "on your left" the pedestrian has to:

1. Figure out which way is left - a bit difficult for some folks, believe it or not.

2. Figure out if he/she is supposed to go left, since you just said left.

3. Put it all together and actually do something.

OTOH, I find that most folks are used to being passed on the left, and "passing" gets an automatic move-right response.

I always have my hands on the brakes because as you said , you just never really know. I agree that "most" people will go right but I have had them go both ways. Sometimes I cant pass because the road is blocked and you have to say something to get them to notice you so they can do something.

Most the time they are cool though on my regular ride and they are almost like regulars themselves.

cranky old dude
02-27-09, 06:32 PM
I don't ride without one. As long as there isn't a cord hanging from their ears, everyone seems to
step to the right when they hear a bell behind them.

Many freindly conversations have resulted from my bell rings.

Ranger63
02-28-09, 07:46 AM
I have one. (on a bike)
I have two (but one isn't on the bike)
I discovered nothing shut up the millling group of riders waiting for the ride start better than a loud bell.
Thru a friend (who for a time was importing single speeds from india)I got two fantastic bells.
Large, loud and with a clarity that will stop folks walking by a half a block away.
The bell on the bike (a BCP) is on the leTour roadster. A bell better suits a upright english style bicycle than shouting 'on your left'.(I also ordered a tweed cap which is made to go on helmets-thru a european supplier-which fits over the bell citi helmet..the stares were worth the price)
The other Bell is in the seat bag or handlebar bag (depending on which bike I have). Works like a charm especially getting all the old farts up and onto the bike after a coffee break.

Wanderer
02-28-09, 08:04 AM
I use bells. Folks seem to recognize them better than anything else on the MUPs. And, actually seem to know to get out of the way (probably due to the fact that they used them on their little tricycles a long time ago.)

alicestrong
02-28-09, 08:10 AM
I love bells so much one of my bikes has two on it. One bell goes Ding-dong and the other is the more classic ziiinnnggg...

Together they are awesome...:D

Jet Travis
02-28-09, 08:26 AM
I love bells so much one of my bikes has two on it.


Are you sure that's street legal?

Beverly
02-28-09, 08:39 AM
I use bells. Folks seem to recognize them better than anything else on the MUPs. And, actually seem to know to get out of the way (probably due to the fact that they used them on their little tricycles a long time ago.)

People around here must not have ridden tricycles in their youth as they don't respond much to bells:(

Speedskater
02-28-09, 09:14 AM
I tried to find some for the grand-kids bikes, but the ones I saw were to hard to ring. Two and four year old's don't have much finger strength. And most of the one's I saw were way big for little kids.

JanMM
02-28-09, 09:14 AM
Recently mounted a 25+ year old bell on my V-Rex. Nice tone from a beefy aluminum bell.

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z284/JanMM/bell.jpg

kenkayak
02-28-09, 09:25 AM
I think a bell is an idea im going to try,.When I approch walker's on tar,/ thay seldom hear me ,/my warning remark is DONT JUMP as I approch,Im thinking a bell might be more pleasant.I also had a moose get a lot to curious as I passed and clomp along behind me,/ fortuneatly I was on the down hill run and he lost interest.Im thinking the bell might have worked in this type of incouter as well./Kenneth

charmed
02-28-09, 12:09 PM
The sound of a bicycle bell triggers an innate reaction: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_MphtzCOEc

My absolute favorite part of that video is when the "tester" is using the bike bell on the escalator, and the people still move over without turning around.

rae
02-28-09, 02:11 PM
The riders were having a hard time getting to the start house through the crowds at last Friday's time trial, even with the marshals yelling "Riders coming through". Maybe they should try bells!

snaproll
02-28-09, 02:22 PM
Nope. No bells. Maybe on a townie, but not on my road bike.

JohnDThompson
02-28-09, 03:27 PM
The time tested "Snoopy" bell:

http://os2.dhs.org/~john/snoopy.jpg

The modern "Bell" pepper:

http://os2.dhs.org/~john/bell-pepper.jpg

cranky old dude
02-28-09, 03:44 PM
I tried to find some for the grand-kids bikes, but the ones I saw were to hard to ring. Two and four year old's don't have much finger strength. And most of the one's I saw were way big for little kids.

"Bell" makes a nice one and one of their marketing outlets is Walmart. If the Grand Kids like the sound enough I imagine they'll use their whole hand to ring it untill they've developed enough thumb strength.

Here's a link for the same bell from Dick's Sporting Goods
http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2977904

BillK
02-28-09, 03:48 PM
Sorry, no bell. I find "on your left" or "from behind" does the trick. Except once. I was halfway through my MUP ride when I came across a sea of humanity all using the asphalt path for part of a runner's club event. Needless to say, I got hung up in the back of the pack. That is until a young buck on a mountain bike showed up who happened to be traveling the same way as I. He plinked his little bell a few times and the crowd started moving right! Needless to say, I tucked in behind him and we safely navigated though the crowd.

gcottay
02-28-09, 03:49 PM
My wife and I have and use Incredibell Silvers. They are about ideal on MUPS, occaisionally helpful on city streets, and about useless on the road.

cyclezen
02-28-09, 04:03 PM
found I really enjoy the little cowbell, I use on the MTB, so much that I now use it a lot on the roadies.
similar to this fancy small cowbell (www.velotique.com/images/Cow-Bell.jpg). mine is more basic with a velcro band you can hang most anywhere. Sold by the Local Trails Council to help relations between MTBrs, hikers and the horsey set. Use it when I'm on a MUP or other area frequent by the genus of large ground squirrels. The slow build up of the cowbell tinkle from behind, removes the element of surprise and allows the Ground squirrels to think and react more at their slowish pace. Also a nice heads-up to any oncoming who have their heads down.
When not needed, it gets drapped over the handlebar cables for silent running. Use it only on a solo ride or when with riders widely spaced, not in tight packs.
Otherwise, I ALWAYS wear a whistle (loud) on Lanyard. It really works for those saddle clinchin moments. When 'line of sight' is limited or being outridden, it always gets clinched between the teeth, ready for a sharp burst. Saved my Bacon a few times these past few years...