Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - When will ever see the 3 speed fixed hub!

I want it now damn it...Is there any potential way of getting a group by going of fellow enthusiasts?

Its about time they put this thing on the market. We deserve it. They have exploited the Sturmey name long enough. Its time to give back to the community.

We need to test these units under real world conditions. I propose a group buy on the following conditions...

Installation will be as directed by the company. We buy the units at cost plus actual shipping charges.

A three month user summary is given by all users with a specific deadline.

A six month follow up summary is given by another deadline.

A yearly review of the product and its reliability is provided. (Hubs will be sent back to SA for quality control evaluation and a credit will be issued for a new hub at cost)

Users pay the suggested retail cost of the hub shifter mechanism.

The maximum number of users should be 150...There needs to be casual riders, hardcore riders, curb jumpers etc...

This hub is needed to fill the void for hardcore fixed riders. Its been too long. Stop teasing us you jerks! Give us the damn hub!

I'm in if this goes anywhere... :)

I'm ready to contribute myself as well.

How can you have a fixed hub that's three speeds, defeats the whole purpose of a SS fixed gear.

How can you have a fixed hub that's three speeds....

It's been done...

How can you have a fixed hub that's three speeds, defeats the whole purpose of a SS fixed gear.
it's impossible to have a 3 spd ss fg.

but op isnt talking of anything single speed, so your point isn't related to this topic at all now is it?

it's impossible to have a 3 spd ss fg.
No, it's quite possible. Sturmey-Archer made a 3-speed (internally geared) fixed gear hub (http://www.classiclightweights.co.uk/designs/hsasc.html) for many decades. It went out of production back in the 1950s, but with the recent interest in fixed gear riding, they've decided to re-introduce it (http://sunrace-sturmeyarcher.blogspot.com/2008/09/s3x-fixed-gear-3-speed.html).

How can you have a fixed hub that's three speeds, defeats the whole purpose of a SS fixed gear.

Take out the "SS" part, and the math works. 3 speeds, all fixed gear. Really easy to imagine...

I bid one up to the $350 mark on ebay 5 - 6 years ago, sold for a few bucks more then I could afford at the time.

No, it's quite possible. Sturmey-Archer made a 3-speed (internally geared) fixed gear hub (http://www.classiclightweights.co.uk/designs/hsasc.html) for many decades. It went out of production back in the 1950s, but with the recent interest in fixed gear riding, they've decided to re-introduce it (http://sunrace-sturmeyarcher.blogspot.com/2008/09/s3x-fixed-gear-3-speed.html).

certainly you missed the "ss" part in the original question I was responding to. Consider the "3 speed" and "single speed" refer to something not equal, therefore it's impossible to have a 3 speed single speed fixed gear. Ok?

I believe the SA 3spd fixed was popular among British time trialists. I'd volunteer to test it under those conditions.

I believe the SA 3spd fixed was popular among British time trialists. I'd volunteer to test it under those conditions.

You volunteer to become a British time trialist? :p

To answer the OP's question, S-A says they are shooting for a March release.

To answer the OP's question, S-A says they are shooting for a March release.

Correct, it's very close to launch. I hope i have enough cash to pick one up before they all get bought up.

You volunteer to become a British time trialist? :p

Indubitably, old bean.

In response to the OP, I don't understand why SA would need to go to this kind of trouble. Plenty of people are lined up to buy these hubs at retail, and those users will provide plenty of feedback if anything goes wrong. And really, hubs at cost with feedback deadlines? Is someone going to enforce this somehow?

How can you have a fixed hub that's three speeds, defeats the whole purpose of a SS fixed gear.

defeating the purpose is exactly the point.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2074/2331383008_78ac689290_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2058/2330546575_a05dd6d872.jpg?v=0

http://www.blackbirdsf.org/taylor/images/7573/7573.jpg

http://www.blackbirdsf.org/taylor/images/7573/7573_shifter.jpg


they're kinda cool, if youre into that sort of thing :)

I won the santa cruz wildcat (a yearly mixed terrain race thrown by the bike church down there) fixed gear category last year on the red bike, 3 speed fixed is a totally different animal than regular fixed, with its own pros and cons. super fun, but wont supplant a regular fixed gear. its just different.

I'm not in the market for one right now, but in the future I'd definitely like to build a bike with one. 54/13 gearing with a couple lower gears so the big gear isn't such torture at slower speeds is a very delightful idea.

im running 52x18 on my ASC, though I understand the S3X has different reductions. Mine gives me roughly 78, 70 and 58 gear inche.

im running 52x18 on my ASC, though I understand the S3X has different reductions. Mine gives me roughly 78, 70 and 58 gear inche.

Any advice for trying this? I got an old 3-speed Schwinn out of the garbage and I'm very interested in making it fixed.

Any advice for trying this? I got an old 3-speed Schwinn out of the garbage and I'm very interested in making it fixed.

The ASC is/was built as a fixed hub. Sheldon has details on how to convert a freewheel SA hub to fixed, but it's rather involved. As in I can't imagine it's remotely time/cost-effective to convert an existing hub now that SA is producing them.

I put in a back order for the 120mm version in black, backup in silver. The projected market date is sometime next month. The S3X will be cool! :)

Add a free wheel switch and I am so down.

Here you go ... Igleheart at NAHBS. The hub has not been officially released, yet. This one shipped direct from Sun Race / Sturmey Archer to the builder, specifically for the show.

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_5vh854wf6Lw/SaSBSGx7G-I/AAAAAAAAAHY/jr63lnDQGYA/s640/Sturmy1.jpg
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_5vh854wf6Lw/SaSBSdiUZOI/AAAAAAAAAHo/HyDwHZj6_Z/s640/Sturmy3.jpg
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_5vh854wf6Lw/SaSBSnoxr0I/AAAAAAAAAH4/7sWv9q5iYds/s640/Sturmy5.jpg
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_5vh854wf6Lw/SaSBSS1QVDI/AAAAAAAAAHw/LK1beiJLWHA/s512/Sturmy4.jpg

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_5vh854wf6Lw/SaSBSdiUZOI/AAAAAAAAAHo/HyDwHZj6_Zk/s640/Sturmy3.jpg
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_5vh854wf6Lw/SaSBSS1QVDI/AAAAAAAAAHw/LK1beiJLW/s512/Sturmy4.jpg

Is that a hollowtech thingie lockring? Doesn't look like anything I've ever seen besides outboard bearings.

I LIKE IT! And here I was thinking it would remain vaporware. Looks like the production model will be out on the market soon.

Watch this space:

S3X Blog (http://sunrace-sturmeyarcher.blogspot.com/search/label/S3X)

Ok, well I think the hub is cool, and I think a graphic designer or someone here needs to figure out a way to make that logo say something about Sheldon. Like it already has the S, maybe a simple sticker for those to show their love.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_SCUutbkkCn8/SYs8Mmb7qmI/AAAAAAAAAJY/ZmouRiV5Gqo/s400/S3X+Lock+Ring+Pic1+2008-12-26.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_SCUutbkkCn8/SYs8M6rBDiI/AAAAAAAAAJg/s2wan2HRHWM/s400/S3X+Lock+Ring+Pic2+2008-12-26.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_SCUutbkkCn8/SWunOSEq3tI/AAAAAAAAAJQ/8aaAxjEPxl0/s400/S3X+Colors+2008-11-20.jpg

Some of the most asked questions should be answered with the below pictures. Hub will be 120mm OLD. Two shifters, top mount thumb and bar end. Cog interface is a standard Shimano spline.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_SCUutbkkCn8/SSM9vWtUUJI/AAAAAAAAAIg/FwlirdG6BJ8/s400/SLS3X-T+Type+2008-11-15.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_SCUutbkkCn8/SSM9valwQoI/AAAAAAAAAIY/p__RBbhzEr0/s400/SLS3X-B+Type+2008-11-15.jpg

None of the shifters' designs are final. Lifted from this site: http://sunrace-sturmeyarcher.blogspot.com/search/label/S3X

Oooh! Barcons please! Mustache bar, 650b, kogswell frameset, SON dynohub, schlumpf mountain drive...My idea of commuting!

Oooh! Barcons please! Mustache bar, 650b, kogswell frameset, SON dynohub, schlumpf mountain drive...My idea of commuting!

Well you must be made of money, a schlumpf by itself costs as much as my bike, let alone frame prep.

Can I have some of your money? Please?

wow, shifters on a fixed gear, that hub is a shame.
Any "fixed gear" with more than one speed is a disgrace, that "fixed gear hub" should be banished from society.
Sounds like a cop out for people who want a fixed hub but are too lazy to tough it out in one gear.

wow, shifters on a fixed gear, that hub is a shame.
Any "fixed gear" with more than one speed is a disgrace, that "fixed gear hub" should be banished from society.
Sounds like a cop out for people who want a fixed hub but are too lazy to tough it out in one gear.

http://www.salagir.com/gfx/troll-web.jpg

wow, shifters on a fixed gear, that hub is a shame.
Any "fixed gear" with more than one speed is a disgrace, that "fixed gear hub" should be banished from society.
Sounds like a cop out for people who want a fixed hub but are too lazy to tough it out in one gear.

:rolleyes:

Well you must be made of money, a schlumpf by itself costs as much as my bike, let alone frame prep.

Can I have some of your money? Please?

money?!

just dreamin' big...don't mind me. I'd share if I had it tho'...

OP, here you go: http://store.somafab.com/igthwhset.html

OP, here you go: http://store.somafab.com/igthwhset.html

SRF3 = freewheel, not fixed.

i cant wait to have one. all the fun of fixed gear riding, except i can actually ride big climbs and feasably do tours. at the moment it frustraits me when i do a big trip but have to resort to riding my geared road bike.

i think it would take me a while to work out what gearing id want, so i plan to buy a set of diffrent sprockets and try each one out for a week.

Ah, sorry 'bout that.