Foo - again...

Came through with another round of layoffs again. We have a meeting in about an hour that I am hoping will address what is going on. Frankly, if the company has gone belly-up, it would be nice if they would stop tip-toeing around it. Its also possible they have a new vision...

Saturday I re-sign my lease. Was already planning on moving to a smaller apt to save some cash "just in case", but now I am wondering if I should wait out the last 2 mos, and find something last-minute if I am still employed? Otherwise, I was thinking a month-to month option (but that is spendy!)

Part of my heart wants to throw in the towel out here, pack it back up for MN when my lease is up (end of April).

Came through with another round of layoffs again. We have a meeting in about an hour that I am hoping will address what is going on. Frankly, if the company has gone belly-up, it would be nice if they would stop tip-toeing around it. Its also possible they have a new vision...

Saturday I re-sign my lease. Was already planning on moving to a smaller apt to save some cash "just in case", but now I am wondering if I should wait out the last 2 mos, and find something last-minute if I am still employed? Otherwise, I was thinking a month-to month option (but that is spendy!)

Part of my heart wants to throw in the towel out here, pack it back up for MN when my lease is up (end of April).

I'll do the towel throwing around here.

You hope for the best, OK?

I'll do the towel throwing around here.

You hope for the best, OK?thanks! yeah, I am. Frankly, I have the cash to get by a few months of unemployment. Like everyone else, I'd rather not have to. ATM, I'm just trying to strategize how to take the smallest hit to the pocket, so I can stay on track with things I'm working quite hard for.

Part of my heart wants to throw in the towel out here, pack it back up for MN when my lease is up (end of April).From what you said the last time, I certainly don't think you jumped in with a great company. The manager sounded like an ass clown the way he handled the lay offs.

It might be good to start looking for what may be available in MN now and let the help determine. It's no good going back if you have no job there either.

Make sure you don't leave voluntarily if you have have some sort of contract regarding the relocation package. I know I couldn't leave the company for 1 year when I got the relo package to this berg.

Part of my heart wants to throw in the towel outHow about throwing the towel off and sending us pictures for proof? :D :thumb:

Sorry for all the frustration, arti. :( I hope things work out for you.

From what you said the last time, I certainly don't think you jumped in with a great company. The manager sounded like an ass clown the way he handled the lay offs.

It might be good to start looking for what may be available in MN now and let the help determine. It's no good going back if you have no job there either.

Make sure you don't leave voluntarily if you have have some sort of contract regarding the relocation package. I know I couldn't leave the company for 1 year when I got the relo package to this berg.No, there is no contract, and CO does not require severance pay. I anticipate I'd get 2-weeks if anything.

I am not sure who "the manager" is, I suspect a board of unknowns (unknown to me). Either way, it was a startup, I knew I was taking a chance, just still surprised its happening so quick.

The advantage of moving back to MN is mom's basement, and saving a crapton of money job hunting there as opposed to here. Plus, I have more connections there.

Man...hope for the best and prepare for the worst.

I am not sure who "the manager" is, I suspect a board of unknowns (unknown to me). Either way, it was a startup, I knew I was taking a chance, just still surprised its happening so quick.
I was referring to that guy you said came out and said "the rest of you are safe.....for this week".

I was referring to that guy you said came out and said "the rest of you are safe.....for this week".
oh... his last day was yesterday. I was sad to see him go too, as he had a real passion for the institution. I suspect those cuts were also at the direction of who I now refer to as the "seven dwarves" (vanilla sky reference, if anyone is a fan)

Sorry its going rough right now, Arti. I hope it works out for you in Colorado. Seems like a really cool place to live.:hug:

How about throwing the towel off and sending us pictures for proof? :D :thumb:

can't be halfway serious for just a second?:rolleyes:


OK, I know you're serious, but still......


(fingers crossed for ya, arti)

Survey the employment landscape where you are and consider jumping ship if you get a better or more stable offer.

Survey the employment landscape where you are and consider jumping ship if you get a better or more stable offer.:thumb: yes.
but the problem is, I am highly overpaid. I have been saving it and living like I'm not... but it affords me the luxury to visit the family and BF in MN. I am 85% sure I will not find a very close match.

The advantage of moving back to MN is mom's basement, and saving a crapton of money job hunting there as opposed to here. Plus, I have more connections there.

Yeah, but it's MN ;)

Whaddya do fer a livin? (whaddya wanna do?)

(vanilla sky reference, if anyone is a fan)
Seen it, yes.
Fan, NO.



can't be halfway serious for just a second?:rolleyes:
As if I was the only one. THIS IS FOO FOR A REASON!

Yeah, but it's MN ;)

Whaddya do fer a livin? (whaddya wanna do?)Mostly, a web designer. I'm pretty happy with it- have been thinking for years if I pursued a master's, what would it be in? Not sure, and I'm pretty cool with what I'm doing.

Arti, whatever happens, you know I'm rootin for ya.

Damn, artifice, sorry you're getting jerked around like this. I can't imagine the stress you're going through.

In any case, it sounds like the company is pretty unstable, and you should probably at least start sending out feelers for something else, even if you make it through the next round.

I'll be hoping for the best, and keeping my fingers crossed, typing skills be damned!

Ugh, my best friend was laid off yesterday, because his employer is doing what most employers are doing right now, instead of taking a relatively small net loss, he is letting his employees go and redistributing the workload, which amounts to putting profits before people.

Ugh, my best friend was laid off yesterday, because his employer is doing what most employers are doing right now, instead of taking a relatively small net loss, he is letting his employees go and redistributing the workload, which amounts to putting profits before people.

Yep....I'm seeing that everywhere. Doesn't it just piss you off? Companies can't stand a 1% loss over keeping employees.

I'm waiting for it to hit here. They keep saying they're doing everything they can to keep from laying off and have so far, but I'm afraid it will have to come eventually.

Doesn't it just piss you off? Companies can't stand a 1% loss over keeping employees.Don't forget that the CEO then gets a big ol' bonus for the company's "return to profitability."

Short-sightedness! Short-sightedness! Ra ra ra!

Mostly, a web designer. I'm pretty happy with it- have been thinking for years if I pursued a master's, what would it be in? Not sure, and I'm pretty cool with what I'm doing.

it wouldn't be a bad time to start on the Master's, if you really want to go that direction...

Doesn't it just piss you off?
Who you talkin' to?

Right now I'm a full-time Sociali...er, student, and I work in a relatively recession-proof part of the economy, auto mech, (it slows down but not enough to lay folks off, even people who live in cars need them to run,) so I haven't really felt it much, but I sure can see it around me.

People everywhere are taking a beating because of the economy. One would think that this would create more compassion instead of more greed. :(

People everywhere are taking a beating because of the economy. One would think that this would create more compassion instead of more greed. :(

I think it has created more fear and everyone usually responds to fear by trying to take care of themselves first.

Sorry to hear. A few well established folks in my neighborhood who have been with their respective companies for many years have found themselves unemployed. Keep looking while at the same time act loyal to your present employer. Good luck.

We just took 5% pay cuts, supposedly to avoid layoffs but we will see. I wish you the best. And damn, I didn't even get to meet you yet in the 1st annual Foo front-rangers memorial ride :o

good luck arti. scary times ahead....hopefully we'll start clawing our way back upwards again soon.

These companies are stupid. When the economy turns around, the existing employees who are any good will be jumping ship because of the way both they and their co-workers were treated.

Arti,
The job was good for the experience and to allow you to spend some
time in CO, right?
It sounds like you have at least a couple reasons to go home to MN.
I agree on all accounts that you should check your options at home
including the Masters degree, and the suggestion that you should
let the company make their decision because you know somethings
going to happen one way or another.
Even though you may/will lose your job, if you can
leave on a good note (if that's even possible) and maybe get some
severance pay and qualify for unemployment too....
You've done awesome between taking the bold step of moving out
there and experiencing a cool state like CO, and living wisely financially
not to mention your great attitude.
I can't imagine anything but good in your near/or not so near future.

These companies are stupid. When the economy turns around, the existing employees who are any good will be jumping ship because of the way both they and their co-workers were treated.

Agreed.
The company I had been working for (got laid off 2 weeks ago)
shows no sense of loyalty to their employees (I understand in a
sense that it's just business) and their current employees see that all too clearly.

Thanks for all the warm thoughts, people. I'm doing well. Friday afternoon the big guy addressed the situation by saying the options were cut us back, or shut us down. High powers want to keep us running, and are essentially bringing in 'emergency support' to keep us rolling. They "think" they have made all the cuts they need to (for now)- wonder what now means? the next quarter? Either way, I've relaxed over the wkend and am ready to tackle it head-on next week.


Arti,
The job was good for the experience and to allow you to spend some
time in CO, right?
It sounds like you have at least a couple reasons to go home to MN.
I agree on all accounts that you should check your options at home
including the Masters degree, and the suggestion that you should
let the company make their decision because you know somethings
going to happen one way or another.
Even though you may/will lose your job, if you can
leave on a good note (if that's even possible) and maybe get some
severance pay and qualify for unemployment too....
You've done awesome between taking the bold step of moving out
there and experiencing a cool state like CO, and living wisely financially
not to mention your great attitude.
I can't imagine anything but good in your near/or not so near future.
Thanks for your thoughts. You hit the nail on the head. I've had a great experience here, and I will continue to. I am looking into what I can do for very short term leases in the mean time, but am not ready to walk away. The fact of the matter is, it wouldn't make sense to sit around out here unemployed, which is the main reason I'd go back to MN if something happened.

well, my last boss got the axe- as well as another lady I considered indispensable. we're now a bunch of latch-key kids running around the office.

rumor has it they are bringing in one of my old PM's on a contract-basis to take care of some of the mess....

I'm pretty sure they have cut 50% since I started.. only 4 months ago. This has been an epic 4 months!!

:crash:

wow

wow
I know! That is about all I can say. In fact, It makes me laugh, because its so RIDICULOUS! I'm on-board, sink or sail though. I *think* these are all the cuts until they re-evaluate budgets in May.

well, my last boss got the axe- as well as another lady I considered indispensable. we're now a bunch of latch-key kids running around the office.

This is a possible opportunity to get promoted really fast. They get a cheap manager and you beef up your resume. Try to act mature and organized and stuff. :p

This is a possible opportunity to get promoted really fast. They get a cheap manager and you beef up your resume. Try to act mature and organized and stuff. :pim obviously going to fail at maturity and organization ;)

NO! Promotion = do not want. All the office dwellers were the ones that got canned! I will stay at the bottom where it's safe :D

I know! That is about all I can say. In fact, It makes me laugh, because its so RIDICULOUS! I'm on-board, sink or sail though. I *think* these are all the cuts until they re-evaluate budgets in May.

well put.
I can understand. Here, I have heard no rumors, but I do feel the boat slowing.....

im obviously going to fail at maturity and organization ;)

NO! Promotion = do not want. All the office dwellers were the ones that got canned! I will stay at the bottom where it's safe :D

cheap resources go first. If you don't want to be in the middle, skip to management. Worked for me!

it wouldn't be a bad time to start on the Master's, if you really want to go that direction...

a too late to apply though.


artifice, i moved out of co and not a day has gone by without regret. But times have changed and you do gotta do what you gotta do.. Hoping you get to stay in good snow land . good luck

cheap resources go first. If you don't want to be in the middle, skip to management. Worked for me!
actually, our middle management was the first to go!


a too late to apply though.


artifice, i moved out of co and not a day has gone by without regret. But times have changed and you do gotta do what you gotta do.. Hoping you get to stay in good snow land . good luckThanks, skinny!

Yikes. Hang in there girl.

well, my last boss got the axe- as well as another lady I considered indispensable. we're now a bunch of latch-key kids running around the office.

rumor has it they are bringing in one of my old PM's on a contract-basis to take care of some of the mess....

I'm pretty sure they have cut 50% since I started.. only 4 months ago. This has been an epic 4 months!!

:crash:Crikey. http://www.bikeforums.net/mysmiliesvb/mysmilie_15.gif

"[insert population of your company] people enter! Only artifice leaves!"

:hug:Good luck with either finding a new job or keeping your old one until your lease runs out. I am fairly sure that my contract will be renewed at the start of April but it may not.