Classic & Vintage - Frame I bought, what the heck!?

I don't know where to post this so I am posting it here and in a few other forums as someone may know what the heck it is. I bought this off C-List just because it looked strange, the guy I bought it from told me he found it in the trash and only picked it out of the trash because it had Campy bits on it, any help would be great.

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I believe that you have a very unique & uncommon Time Trial bike!! Looks like a nice tight wheelbase! Don't suppose there is a fork in that dumpster?
Early-mid 80's??

What the **** is the vertical piece above the BB. Part of a seat tube??

It's the only way to mount a front D for 2 rings up front...The rider must have wanted a geared TT bike w/ pure weight savings. Coolness!

What the **** is the vertical piece above the BB. Part of a seat tube??

braze on for the front derailleur.

A Klingon ship?

What the **** is the vertical piece above the BB. Part of a seat tube??

Appears to be a derailleur-mount stalagmite.

Are those cracks in the dropouts?

Oh hell yeah! That thing is awesome. Is it steel or aluminum?

Oh hell yeah! That thing is awesome. Is it steel or aluminum?

it kinda looks like paper mache

Is their some underlaying Bondo-type filler on the frame in places? What is your best guess as to the frame material? How much does it weigh? In any case it looks neat and interesting.

it kinda looks paper mache

if it is, my hats off to the creator!

Oh hell yeah! That thing is awesome. Is it steel or aluminum?

Neither, my best guess is fiber glass or carbon, but Im leaning towards fiber glass as it really goesnt appear to be carbon.

02-27-09 04:30 PM
jbonamici: Are those cracks in the dropouts?

Thats what me and bigwoo were discussing, it appears to be tiny holes? two or three just below the drops on the frame, what appears to be cracks on the drops are just cracks in the paint.

02-27-09 04:38 PM
treebound: Is their some underlaying Bondo-type filler on the frame in places? What is your best guess as to the frame material? How much does it weigh? In any case it looks neat and interesting.

I dont know, fiber glass? hardly nothing! :love: Thanks!

Definitely an interesting find. Keep us updated on any findings. I think that thing belongs in a museum.

Is that bondo in the RD pic?

I think this may actually be one instance where a bizzarro fixed gear build is in definitely in order.

Kinda looks like Barney.

I love you, you love me.....!


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How much does it weigh? Looks to be steel wrapped in fiberglass/bodyfiller..

Is that bondo in the RD pic?

I honestly dont know as I know what Bondo is but Ive never used it or seen it used :o

Really cool.

I can only guess an hour attempt bike? Did those have derailleurs?

I suggest asking the folks at Campy Only.

Wait... I bet it was a special thing to hang parts on at Interbike or something.

How much does it weigh? Looks to be steel wrapped in fiberglass/bodyfiller..


It weighs like nothing, I doubt theres any steel in there. ;)

Proof that aliens rode bikes.

It reminds me of a Trek Y-Foil, but even sillier.

Wait... I bet it was a special thing to hang parts on at Interbike or something.

^Good point. It could be a trade show display piece. Be careful trying to ride that thing.. it might break in half!

^Good point. It could be a trade show display piece. Be careful trying to ride that thing.. it might break in half!
With a functional-looking derailleur hanger, dropouts, and headset? Seems unlikely to be a display-only frame.

Also, those dropouts look like they've seen some use, so it must've had wheels on at some point.

Slap some parts on it and take it out for a spin! Quit contemplating it and just freakin' ride it!

Build it up - the world deserves to know what it looks like when complete.

-Kurt

Got a tri-guy around here that rides a Kestral with no seat tube, just like your frame. But yours doesn't look exactly like his.

Ill let it ride the wind and see where it goes. :)

Ill let it ride the wind and see where it goes. :)

I'm cool if it ends up at my house... :innocent:

..functional-looking derailleur hanger, dropouts, and headset?

How the heck do you display the campy bits without a place to put them? Geesh all's I said was be careful, I didn't tell the guy not to give it a try. I'd hit it.

I don't see any cable guides or a RD cable stop. Are they there?
Definitely made me think fiberglass when I saw it.

There were some pretty wild looking bikes around 1990 recall indurain's pinarello... I wouldn't be suprised if it is carbon, fiberglass would be heavy. I think it was built to ride, but I would be wary of it now.. too bad there is no fork.

My first thought was...

http://www.ravingbikefiend.com/bikepics/WTF.gif

And then I thought it reminded me a little of a vintage Bowen... mmm.

http://www.the3dstudio.com/download_image.aspx?size=large&mode=product&file_guid=822b329a-c5c1-421f-8440-ac4420db2b35

Is it fiberglass over a steel frame perhaps ?

That would still make for a rather heavy bike though.

You need to get that thing x-rayed to see what lies under that skin and do a metallurgical analysis.

:)

Do-it-yourself job inspired by Kestrel.

Do-it-yourself job inspired by Kestrel.

That's what I was thinking. It has that "I can do that myself" look to it.

I don't see any cable guides or a RD cable stop. Are they there?
Definitely made me think fiberglass when I saw it.

They were there, but if you look at the pics (23, 24, and 25) you'll see that they were broken off long ago. :(

Looks like a Corima to me.

1) I'd say those campagnolo decals were added sometime later in it's life span.

2) I think I see carbon weave peaking out from under that blue paint in some of the photos of the scratches and such.

3) Not sure if I'd ride it, well, maybe not very far. I wouldn't pass up a quick once around the block, damned that's just cool lookin.

4) Perhaps contact Kestrel with the photos and ask if they have any ideas on what it may be. They may not have made it, but being in that "area" of frames they may have a clue who did.

That's what I was thinking. It has that "I can do that myself" look to it.

I had that suspicion (specifically, that it was wrapped over at least part of a Peugeot at the seat tube with that kind of a seatpost binder), for the stays do not appear even remotely symmetrical.

Same goes for the taper at the top and bottom of the headtube - it does not look factory.

-Kurt

Whatever it is or where it came from, it is very cool!

Hi

I´m not 100 % sure, but I think that is a Bonfanti C4 carbonfibre frame! A very odd frame indeed, but not that uncommon over here in Europe, I´ve seen several frames/bikes that are very similar to the one you have.

No way. i've seen a lot of C4s, and they have a) a nice finish and b) design ;). this one reminds me of a do-it-yourself recumbent i've seen, made with a styrofoam core. -> http://www.oche.de/~luftschwimmer/jpeg/messplane/pic-p8243927.jpg (http://www.oche.de/%7Eluftschwimmer/jpeg/messplane/pic-p8243927.jpg)

It reminds me of a Trek Y-Foil, but even sillier.

yeah, I'd say same vintage... but I'm leaning towards homebuild. I would be careful ridding it unless you inspect it very carefully and patch the fiberglass where it needs it.

I wish you hadn't found this bike, I can't get it off my mind.

Found some pics (don't shoot me about the saddle one ;) )

http://www.londonfgss.com/attachments/3086d1226519183-corima-vif.jpg

http://www.bikecult.com/works/saddles/selleitalia1991tt.jpg

Use the front derailer post for an aero water bottle mount.

Go for a flying mile speed record on it on a velodrome.

Build it up quick and dirty with whatever components you have laying around just to get a better feel for how it could be.

You're going to have to find an appropriate looking fork for it, something aero and funky, no straight leg skinny forks for this one. Something contoured and aero'd.

Name it The Helium because it looks like it was built to float on air.

No way. i've seen a lot of C4s, and they have a) a nice finish and b) design ;). this one reminds me of a do-it-yourself recumbent i've seen, made with a styrofoam core. -> http://www.oche.de/~luftschwimmer/jpeg/messplane/pic-p8243927.jpg (http://www.oche.de/%7Eluftschwimmer/jpeg/messplane/pic-p8243927.jpg)

:wtf:How can you sit there and compare the frame I posted to that POS recumbent that is no doubt a home made monstrosity!?

:wtf:How can you sit there and compare the frame I posted to that POS recumbent that is no doubt a home made monstrosity!?

+1

If your bike is a homemade jobber, it's very nice.

What is the rear spacing? That will date it to a period. Maybe?

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