Foo - Best post ever.

I should put an end to the Dating thread. This guy gets it.

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EDIT: Even I can get persuaded with good writing. What was I thinking? :P

:lol:

Well, at least he's not bitter, and that's the important thing when you get right down to it.

Kind of true, except often times the "nice guy" is kind of a glorified doormat. I should know, I was that guy years ago. :rolleyes:

Wow. Reality in a nutshell.

Was the author Bud Bundy?

That would be hysterically funny....


If it weren't so true

Kind of true, except often times the "nice guy" is kind of a glorified doormat. I should know, I was that guy years ago. :rolleyes:

Does this mean you've now turned into an a-hole?

It was good, but since it was not penned by PatentCad, it only qualifies for honourable mention.

As someone who never wanted a "bad" boy, I have to make a point for the women here. Did "nice" guy ever make a freaking move on the girl, or did he just sit idly by and twiddle his thumbs? Women don't have ESP and can't always tell when a guy has the hots for them if he doesn't make any sort of overture.

I'm betting the guy who wrote that piece sat on his hands for years and only started getting action when he started making moves. A lot of women want nice guys, but the nice guys have to make their intentions known.

As someone who never wanted a "bad" boy, I have to make a point for the women here. Did "nice" guy ever make a freaking move on the girl, or did he just sit idly by and twiddle his thumbs? Women don't have ESP and can't always tell when a guy has the hots for them if he doesn't make any sort of overture.

I'm betting the guy who wrote that piece sat on his hands for years and only started getting action when he started making moves. A lot of women want nice guys, but the nice guys have to make their intentions known.

+1 on that. Just because you hang around a girl doesn't automatically mean she knows you dig her...

As someone who never wanted a "bad" boy, I have to make a point for the women here. Did "nice" guy ever make a freaking move on the girl, or did he just sit idly by and twiddle his thumbs? Women don't have ESP and can't always tell when a guy has the hots for them if he doesn't make any sort of overture.

I'm betting the guy who wrote that piece sat on his hands for years and only started getting action when he started making moves. A lot of women want nice guys, but the nice guys have to make their intentions known.

A-men sister. But then again, sometimes nice guys really are just nice and not interested in us romantically, and then we read too much and get disappointed when we find out the non-interest. Blah.

That was right on point.....Couldn't have said it better...


And to answer cbad.....Yes we have made moves, and they were rejected, and when we started paying less attention, we started getting phone calls...so after this cycle happened about oh, five or six times, we finally smartened up and walked...and learned...and made sure we never made the same mistake again. this doesn't mean we don't recognise a good one when we see her, the good ones are just usually married, and the ones that woke up a little late,well, you can tell who they were, and because of past experiences, trusting them doesn't always happen....

I should put an end to the Dating thread. This guy gets it.

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You're kidding right? This guy is clueless. If you're interested in someone then you let them know in direct terms. Not by being their shopping bag holder.

And to answer cbad.....Yes we have made moves, and they were rejected, and when we started paying less attention, we started getting phone calls...so after this cycle happened about oh, five or six times, we finally smartened up and walked...and learned...and made sure we never made the same mistake again. this doesn't mean we don't recognise a good one when we see her, the good ones are just usually married, and the ones that woke up a little late,well, you can tell who they were, and because of past experiences, trusting them doesn't always happen....

Perhaps that was the case in high school. But with a grown woman? It also depends on the woman you're lusting after. Some women want "bad" boys, and will ignore hordes of nice guys who follow them around offering to carry their shopping bags.

Meanwhile the "nice" girls are walking behind, watching the "nice" boys make complete asses of themselves chasing something they'll never get.


You're kidding right? This guy is clueless. If you're interested in someone then you let them know in direct terms. Not by being their shopping bag holder.

+1 As someone who genuinely wants a 'nice' guy, I would be more than happy if one were to make his intentions known. Sometimes the "just friends" confusion goes both ways - the woman doesn't think the guy has an interest because he hasn't made any sort of move.

I'm sorry but that guy's a big p****y. Maybe if he worked out a little and grew a pair he might get laid. Instead he obviously spends all his time trying to be the overly sensitive best friend to the girls. If you ask me he's pathetic. I can't stand guys like that, although I do love the look on their face when I swoop in and steal the girls out from under them.

As someone who never wanted a "bad" boy, I have to make a point for the women here. Did "nice" guy ever make a freaking move on the girl, or did he just sit idly by and twiddle his thumbs? Women don't have ESP and can't always tell when a guy has the hots for them if he doesn't make any sort of overture.

I'm betting the guy who wrote that piece sat on his hands for years and only started getting action when he started making moves. A lot of women want nice guys, but the nice guys have to make their intentions known.

In defense of the post, there are some "nice" guys (like myself, or what I used to be, perhaps) who did make the moves, but didn't know how to do them right. That's the problem with most of those guys. It's one thing to be emotionally supportive of your girl-friend, but attraction and building a non-platonic relationship requires more than that.

Another problem with "nice" guys is that they're way too afraid to display confidence and show who they are and what they want. That's what most "*******s" do, which helps with them having at least a lot of short-term success with women. When you're not popular, well-known and sought out, then being able to do this helps a ton. Is that what you meant?

You're kidding right? This guy is clueless. If you're interested in someone then you let them know in direct terms. Not by being their shopping bag holder.

After thinking about it, you're right.

EDIT: Even I can get persuaded with good writing. What was I thinking? :P

It wasn't even good writing, Crassic.

It was pretty good to me.

I'm sorry but that guy's a big p****y. Maybe if he worked out a little and grew a pair he might get laid. Instead he obviously spends all his time trying to be the overly sensitive best friend to the girls. If you ask me he's pathetic. I can't stand guys like that, although I do love the look on their face when I swoop in and steal the girls out from under them.

Dude, you're like, so ****ing awesome. I think I'm getting the hots for you, you big strong piece of man you.

I remember this girl I worked with back in 86' or so. She was a blond, blue-eyed, beauty. I remember intently that while she was working the cash register and I was tooling around her area for no particular reason, that she just blatantly said, "I like you, so-and-so."

I asked,"Like or like-like?"

She said "Like-like." No one has ever been that direct with me before. I was kind of a doofus. But I later found out she liked the nose candy so that may have altered her senses enough to see past my doofiness and see the shallow, bitter, self-absorbed guy I truly was .... wait, that's who I am now. Then I was a "nice guy."

I held doors, smiled, wrote letters, chatted on the phone, and numerous other pathetic things.

We hit it off. She wore my class ring around her neck and I taught her to drive a stick. Thinking back, I believe the coke had messed with a lot of her abilities because she could never get the hang of slowly releasing the clutch in 1st gear. Ever.

Anyway, time went on. We continued to see each other. I continued to be a doosh-bag nice guy by "Puppy-Dogging" my way around her because of my insecurities. And I continued to teach her to drive a stick. And she continued to never touch mine. But that was OK. She was hot, I was lonely, and I learned to deal with it on "my own."

Several months down the road her "underwear model" friend told me she was talking to her cokehead X and they were thinking about getting back together. I confronted her, she pulled off the necklace and handed it to me, and neither stick was ever touched again. Of course one wasn't touched in the first place - by her.

The only good out of it was that she told her "Underwear Model" friend that I was a good kisser and she jumped my bones in the break room one day. Man, she was a sweet piece of ace.

Does this mean you've now turned into an a-hole?

Not at all. But it does mean I'm not going to follow a woman around like a baby duck in hopes that she'll eventually develop feelings for me.


As someone who never wanted a "bad" boy, I have to make a point for the women here. Did "nice" guy ever make a freaking move on the girl, or did he just sit idly by and twiddle his thumbs? Women don't have ESP and can't always tell when a guy has the hots for them if he doesn't make any sort of overture.

I'll admit, I never told the girl I liked her. For one thing, I've never been one to hit on a girl who has a boyfriend, and most girls always have a boyfriend (or in my current age bracket, are married). Also, I had seen others do it and they got the "But I wouldn't want to ruin our friendship" response. I can only conclude that the reason I kept hanging around was that she was very familiar to me, and therefore comfortable, and since we were so close I hoped that maybe some day she'd realize that I was the only guy who was actually treating her well. But of course, in reality I was just a doormat who was wasting his time. I've never been the kind who just wanted to get laid. I wasn't then and I'm not now. So after realizing that she was continually going after the jerks who just wanted a piece, I still didn't become one of those guys because that's just not who I am. I don't want it bad enough to be a jerk. I just finally realized that even being alone was better than constantly being there for a girl while some other guy is the one who get's to actually be in a romantic relationship with her. On the other hand, I've never been a jerk and I haven't had a date in almost 12 years, so maybe there is something to that. :innocent:

I should put an end to the Dating thread. This guy gets it.

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EDIT: Even I can get persuaded with good writing. What was I thinking? :P

The fact that you think this guy "gets" it makes me want to say many things to you that would be in blatant violation of the Terms of Use policies here...

*smack

Perhaps that was the case in high school. But with a grown woman? It also depends on the woman you're lusting after. Some women want "bad" boys, and will ignore hordes of nice guys who follow them around offering to carry their shopping bags.

Meanwhile the "nice" girls are walking behind, watching the "nice" boys make complete asses of themselves chasing something they'll never get.



+1 As someone who genuinely wants a 'nice' guy, I would be more than happy if one were to make his intentions known. Sometimes the "just friends" confusion goes both ways - the woman doesn't think the guy has an interest because he hasn't made any sort of move.

...I was assuming this guy was in high school, or a few years out...if he's in his late30's early thirties and hasn't learned yet...screw him

Oh btw, you all know about this, right? About Nice Guys(tm)? If you don't, get your arse over to the linky and read. It's pretty true.

http://tinyurl.com/rpg

actually that guy sounds obsessive and lacking in self confidence to me.......