"The 33"-Road Bike Racing - Trainers for crit/road race warmups?

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Busta Quad
03-01-09, 02:50 PM
(Almost) everyone at TTs warms up on trainers. What about your crit/road racer types? or is it considered odd.


cedricbosch
03-01-09, 03:16 PM
I thought you said you raced?

botto
03-01-09, 03:25 PM
You've been here long enough to knowthe answer, Sockpuppet.


walshconor
03-01-09, 03:58 PM
what kind of road races have you been to. usually warming up on a trainer is the norm

Busta Quad
03-01-09, 04:11 PM
I thought you said you raced?

I raced crits more than a decade ago. Back then no one used trainers, at least at the races I did. The only races I've done since then is TTs.

Busta Quad
03-01-09, 04:11 PM
You've been here long enough to knowthe answer, Sockpuppet.

Incorrect, Cockpuppet.

cslone
03-01-09, 04:12 PM
I rarely see people on trainers at any races but Crits.

Busta Quad
03-01-09, 04:18 PM
I rarely see people on trainers at any races but Crits.

Uh, ever been to a TT?

Duke of Kent
03-01-09, 04:38 PM
Uh, ever been to a TT?

Time trials are not races, hoss.

Duke of Kent
03-01-09, 04:40 PM
what kind of road races have you been to. usually warming up on a trainer is the norm

I don't think I saw a single person on a trainer before any of my races this year.

Hermes
03-01-09, 05:05 PM
(Almost) everyone at TTs warms up on trainers. What about your crit/road racer types? or is it considered odd.

First, people who have trainers usually use them for TTs. Many do not have a trainer and warmup on the road or just prefer to warmup on the road. I did a TT on Saturday and I always use a trainer but many did not have one and they did very well.

I use a trainer at road races. Although, I generally do not do crits, I plan to participate in a stage race and plan to warmup for a crit and TT the first day and a road race the second day.

I just prefer a trainer to the road. I think you get a better warmup and I can listen to music. If the weather is wet, you can warmup under a tent.

At our mass start races, the pace is fast right from the start and many races do not allow warmup on the course. A trainer is my choice for all racing formats including the track.

Duke of Kent
03-01-09, 05:12 PM
:roflmao2:

I'm guessing you've done very little in the way of crit or road racing.

Busta Quad
03-01-09, 05:14 PM
Time trials are not races, hoss.

:roflmao2:


1A2. A bicycle race is a competition among persons using bicycles where awards are given on the basis of relative performance.

1A25. A race series is a sequence of race events of the same type (such as road, criterium, time trial, track or MTB) conducted in a single state generally on a regular basis at the same location, time, and day of the week.

Busta Quad
03-01-09, 05:15 PM
I'm guessing you've done very little in the way of crit or road racing.

You mean those events where people sit on your wheel while you do the work and then sprint at the end? Yeah, I've done some of those.

cslone
03-01-09, 05:41 PM
Uh, ever been to a TT?

Uh....I do about 10 a year. Out of the 80+ people usually at TT's, I see maybe 5 of them on trainers.

Therefore, and read it closely this time;


I rarely see people on trainers at any races but Crits.

Meaning, 99% of people at TT's around here are warming up on the road.

bdcheung
03-01-09, 05:45 PM
I use a trainer before our road races - because most of the time it's 100% from the gun to shed the slow guys before things settle back down. If I'm not warmed up, those initial surges hurt more than I'd like.

ericm979
03-01-09, 05:53 PM
Lots of people here (NorCal) use trainer or rollers for crit/road race warmup. I've seen people warming up on trainers or rollers for hillclimb road races. Usually the short ones, but I've seen guys on trianers/rollers before stages of the Everest Challenge (the stages are 5-7 hours for the faster riders). If you warm up well on a trainer or rollers it's awfully conveinent.

I warm up really poorly on a trainer so I have to find a road instead. I've always been able to find something, but sometimes it's not very good. There's an increased risk of a last minute flat when you warm up on the road. If it's cold out you will be warmer on a trainer.

Don't worry about what other people think. Do what works for you.

Busta Quad
03-01-09, 06:21 PM
Uh....I do about 10 a year. Out of the 80+ people usually at TT's, I see maybe 5 of them on trainers.


Wow. I guess it's a local thing.

cedricbosch
03-01-09, 06:49 PM
I raced crits more than a decade ago. Back then no one used trainers, at least at the races I did. The only races I've done since then is TTs.

Interesting how trainers went from non-existent to "absolutely critical" in just a few years.

MDcatV
03-01-09, 07:16 PM
(Almost) everyone at TTs warms up on trainers. What about your crit/road racer types? or is it considered odd.

it's not considered odd to WU on a trainer at a TT, crit, or RR.

Flatballer
03-01-09, 08:01 PM
I'm guessing you don't know who the Duke is, or you wouldn't be talking down to him.

Most college racers warm up on trainers, for whatever reason, maybe because it looks pro. I have a picture somewhere of about 15 Navy racers all lined up in a perfect row on their trainers, with their coach walking in front of them talking tactics.

I don't own a trainer, so for crits our team usually shares them. I feel like I can get a better warm-up on a trainer, and not have to worry about making it back for the start. Just takes a couple more things off my mind before the race.

For road races I usually ride on the road to warm up, since it isn't as important to be warmed up really well. There is also more room around road races to ride, and nicer roads. Getting outside a crit course and back on can be tricky at times.

Busta Quad
03-01-09, 08:15 PM
I'm guessing you don't know who the Duke is, or you wouldn't be talking down to him.



Frankly, I don't care who he is. And stating fact is not "talking down" to anyone.

nitropowered
03-01-09, 08:37 PM
I use a trainer for TTs, crits and cyclocross races. Road races not so much.

Duke of Kent
03-01-09, 08:51 PM
Frankly, I don't care who he is. And stating fact is not "talking down" to anyone.

Well, the fact of the matter is that the many times that I raced against Rock Racing, Kelly Benefits, Bissell, Kenda, HealthNet, Jittery Joes, Toyota United or Astana (well...once), and many other pro and amateur teams, I don't think I saw a single person warming up on a trainer before our races.

timmyquest
03-01-09, 08:52 PM
Glad to see someone is picking up my slack around here.

CastIron
03-02-09, 08:17 AM
I use one. It's an old one that sounds like a jet engine at take off with a mere 100watts. It also gets really warm, so I pour a little low temp oil on it. The noise and smoke really makes for a good pre-race show.

merlinextraligh
03-02-09, 08:26 AM
Wow. I guess it's a local thing.


Around here, lots of people use them for TT's, slightly smaller percentage for crits, and not many for Road races.

Variation in useage by location, I think depends in part on access to good roads to warm up on around the course.

umd
03-02-09, 08:30 AM
You've been here long enough to knowthe answer, Sockpuppet.

I've suspected him of sockpuppetism for a while but I can't figure out which of the serial sockpuppeteers he is.

asmallsol
03-02-09, 08:32 AM
Although I skipped some of the responses in the middle, it all depends on the venue. If there is a place where I can warm up before hand (do a lap of the course, what ever) I'll do that instead, but I bring my trainer to all races incase I do not have this luxury.

umd
03-02-09, 08:35 AM
I don't usually do TTs (hate em), but at the stage race this weekend there were a fair number of people on trainers or rollers for the TT and probably the same people used them for crits. I hardly saw anyone warming up for the road race on trainers or rollers. That's generally what I see, that a many people warmup up on the rollers and trainers for crits but not for road races.

botto
03-02-09, 08:43 AM
Incorrect, Cockpuppet.

a sockpuppet, such as yourself, should know that vulgarity is not tolerated on bf.net


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Busta Quad
03-02-09, 09:02 AM
a sockpuppet, such as yourself, should know that vulgarity is not tolerated on bf.net

And an elitist, such as yourself, should know the definition of, and avoid the use of, "gratuitous assertions". Look it up sometime.

walshconor
03-02-09, 09:51 AM
warming up on a trainer while those without watch is bad ass

JoesInBoston
03-02-09, 09:55 AM
I haven't done many races, but I went to watch some last year. There were trainers all over the place at the crits. It just seems to make sense to warm up on a trainer if you have one, its a much more controlled warmup.

Frunkin
03-02-09, 10:47 AM
Depends on the location, available time, and weather for me.
But generally I see more people warming up on trainers at crits.

merlinextraligh
03-02-09, 11:37 AM
I haven't done many races, but I went to watch some last year. There were trainers all over the place at the crits. It just seems to make sense to warm up on a trainer if you have one, its a much more controlled warmup.


Alternatively, if you can, riding the course, particularly if you're not familiar with it, has its advantages.

caloso
03-02-09, 11:50 AM
I do, unless the race is close enough to just ride there from my house.

Flatballer
03-02-09, 11:53 AM
Alternatively, if you can, riding the course, particularly if you're not familiar with it, has its advantages.

At a crit though, your odds of being allowed on the course for any significant amount of time are slim, unless you're in the first race, or after a lunch break or something.

Fat Boy
03-02-09, 12:01 PM
I generally warm up on the road. There's just something about getting your 'sea legs' that I don't get on a trainer. Ya, you get warm physically, but mentally it's not the same when you don't have to balance/steer. Rollers work if there's no place to do a little ride, but I'm too lazy to pack them up.

currand
03-02-09, 06:31 PM
Wow, this really went downhill quick. So how about "some people use them" and just leave it at that. I personally have used a trainer on very cold days when "warming up" is hard to do or as others have said, when you don't have a good place to warm up (races downtown can be difficult).

I see many more people on trainers AFTER races than before though. Odd...

botto
03-03-09, 02:06 AM
And an elitist, such as yourself, should know the definition of, and avoid the use of, "gratuitous assertions". Look it up sometime.

sockpuppet, you write that like it's a bad thing.