Foo - Honest, objective and neutral journalism?

Exists/existed or wishful thinking?

take it to the 250.

Fox and MSNBC are party television, don't bother going there.

Fox fans will say that anything that isn't Fox is liberal pansy journalism.

Objective reporting can be found at News Hour w/ Jim Lehrer, and quality interviews can be found with Diane Rehm.

http://www.muppetnewsflash.com/

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http://www.muppetnewsflash.com/

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I would watch the local news if it was the muppet newsflash. In a hearbeat.

Someones gotta say it....................:p

The Onion (http://www.theonion.com/content/index)

No gnews, is good gnews....with Gary Gnu!!!

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There is no such thing. Every reporter (actually, every person) has a viewpoint and a bias. That viewpoint will carry over to their reporting. There is no way to avoid it.

There has never been such a thing. If you look at historical newspapers, you'll find all the political reporting carries a bias for 1 side or another, based on the views of the editor in charge.

That's the news and I am outta here!!!

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Fox and MSNBC are party television, don't bother going there.

Fox fans will say that anything that isn't Fox is liberal pansy journalism.

Objective reporting can be found at News Hour w/ Jim Lehrer, and quality interviews can be found with Diane Rehm.

That's biased too. However, if you agree with the bias, you may not notice it as much as someone that disagrees with it.

As I said, there is no unbiased coverage. The closest that can be achieved is factual reporting of specific incidents. But even that is often biased to one side or the other.

Does honest, objective and neutral journalism exist?

Does honest, objective and neutral journalism consumption exist?

Does honest, objective and neutral journalism consumption exist?

Ooooooh.....brilliant observation!

Ooooooh.....brilliant observation!

Makes the mind spin, doesn't it Grasshop....er Termite?

Makes the mind spin, doesn't it Grasshop....er Termite?

Not so brilliant on your insect recognition skillz though. ;)

when ad revenue became more important than the editorial, it was all downhill from there

As I said, there is no unbiased coverage. The closest that can be achieved is factual reporting of specific incidents. But even that is often biased to one side or the other.

Correct. Even the decision of what constitutes news and should be reported is based on the judgment of reporters, owners, and editors and reflects there biases, values, &c.

Objectivity in media is a myth.

I voted for it does exist, but a high-school friend who tried the journalism route, english major, MA in journalism from notable journo school in US, found it easier on his conscience to go into PR, that way everybody knows where he's coming from, even if he doesn't necessarily personally subscribe to the views he's espousing. Or maybe it's that he gets paid better to espouse views he doesn't necessarily personally subscribe to in PR than he would at a newspaper...

I'm most sensitive to finding unlabeled 'analysis' in what should be just-the-facts 'news' pieces. But there are still plenty of just-the-facts news pieces. It's when they start getting strung together w/ 'explanations' on how they're interrelated that it starts becoming analysis and stops being journalism. As long as they're labeled as such I have no problem w/ that.

p&r

I think there are degrees. Unbiased news(News Hour) vs biased news (MSNBC) vs propaganda (Fox, Al Jazeera).

I think there are degrees. Unbiased news(News Hour) vs biased news (MSNBC) vs propaganda (Fox, Al Jazeera).

And see, here's the problem. I find News Hour to be propoganda as well as MSNBC.

It all falls in to how you view the world, whether the news you like you consider to be unbiased, biased, or propoganda.

As was beautifully pointed out, not only is there no unbiased news, there are no unbiased news consumers.

That's the news and I am outta here!!!

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post a pic of an idiotic political pundit. nice.

post a pic of an idiotic political pundit. nice.

Woosh!!!


That's the sound of the joke going over your head.

The picture is not Dennis Miller the idiotic political pundit; it's Dennis Miller when he was the anchor of Weekend update on Saturday Night Live.

NPR is as close as I've found.

NPR is as close as I've found.

pretty much.

For the most part, I have found that only unbiased news sources about a country's events are usually by another country's news, where they don't have a stake in what happened. For example, Germany has decently objective news about US politics.

The thing about news, you end up grabbing what people have as propaganda for and against, overlay the two mentally, and you come out with some sort of what really is going on.

Objective journalism with newspapers is almost dead. A lot of newspapers either just buy AP wire stories, write fawning articles over the latest celebrity, or write about the latest iPod as opposed to hiring reports for local scoops (which a lot of people go out of the way to buy papers for.) Then the papers wonder why they find themselves irrelevant. Same with news radio stations who just relay news from some central station, with little or no interest in the city they are in.

I don't think any news out there is unbiased anymore...everyone has to have a slant and an "expert" who can spoon feed it to the masses.

Having said that, I miss Weekend Update.

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NPR, PBS, and other country's news. +10 to the Diane Reme show and Jim Lehrer

NPR and PBS stuff. It's not necessarily unbiased, but onlly biased towards the Left in the way real journalism tends to be. The Right likes to control and define information for the consumer, because their producers and audience are indoctrinated idiots.

Good points all

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Woosh!!!


That's the sound of the joke going over your head.

The picture is not Dennis Miller the idiotic political pundit; it's Dennis Miller when he was the anchor of Weekend update on Saturday Night Live.

i know, but hey enjoy your moment, small pleasures for small minds, and all that.

Reporters are Democrats, Editors are Republicans. So polls show. Go figure. And more often than not, with our short memories, we complain just because we don't like a story . If it goes against our perceptions, it must be wrong.. Don't like a story, ever thought of contacting the actual reporter or editor. Often by their by lines , they have attached their email address. Ever thought to contact a reporter and check out their sources. Or complain to the reporter or editor, if you find actual evidence the process is unprofessional. Actually, most newspaper offices are open to the public. You are freer to just walk in , over say compared to our politicians.

NPR and PBS stuff. It's not necessarily unbiased, but onlly biased towards the Left in the way real journalism tends to be. The Right likes to control and define information for the consumer, because their producers and audience are indoctrinated idiots.

So says the left. The right says otherwise. It's all in personal point of view. As I said, I find NPR and PBS to be quite biased toward the left. But then I'm somewhere right of Ghengis Khan.

Let's please keep strong political views out of this or it'll go to P&R.

the right is largely incorrect in that assumption.

Objective news? HAH!!! Check out what the owners of news-media do: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Barbara_News-Press_controversy

About 98% of the U.S. news media is owned by 7 corporations who are owned by the power families. Do you think they have any influence on what their employees are doing?

Personally I find these to be fairly objective and reliable news-sources:

Der Spiegel
La Figaro
Le Monde
Independent - UK
Guardian - UK
BBC

Objective news? HAH!!! Check out what the owners of news-media do: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Barbara_News-Press_controversy

About 98% of the U.S. news media is owned by 7 corporations who are owned by the power families. Do you think they have any influence on what their employees are doing?

Personally I find these to be fairly objective and reliable news-sources:

Der Spiegel
La Figaro
Le Monde
Independent - UK
Guardian - UK
BBC

Yeah. BBC's US coverage is okay, their domestic news, not so much.

Christian Science Monitor (CSM) is pretty good. Mail & Guardian is okay.