Classic & Vintage - Be Current. Ride Vintage.

Whaddya think? It's a 16 second clip.

http://oldroads.com/intro/

I think that rider almost got hit by a car and then almost hit that girl.

I think it's an old safety film...

With the finished clip, is your intent to push riding vintage bicycles? Instead of showing unsafe riding habits, why not focus on popular vintage rides, maybe a hip young professional (if that's your target audience - you get the idea) doing simple tasks like running an errand on the bike to show that you can be utilitarian while on a cool ride (i.e. not necessary to be decked out in tight stretchy pants and 30 speeds)...just my two cents.

It looks like a video produced in the '50s demonstrating aggressive, scofflaw cyclists.

I don't see the promotional abilities of anything in it, with exception to that very first clip of three riders in a line (nevertheless, they are running too close to the edge and setting themselves up to be buzzed).

-Kurt

I remember that film! They showed it in school to teach you how NOT to ride yer bike:-)

Yes, it is an old training film and yes, the guys in the film are doing things they should not...
Yes, the idea is to promote riding a vintage cycle and not wasting money on a new cycle.
And yes, maybe we should grab a Hipster and get him/her to ride some old steel - good idea.
Hmm.
Well, pretty catchy slogan, eh? 'Be Current. Ride Vintage'?

Here's another video of a mechanic doing things that every one of us has done at some point:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udMRZTc8LRc

I can safely say, that aside from the screw driver/tire lever, I have never done any of that. What the hell is up with all that hammer-ing? To the pedal? The FD? WTH!? That guy should be shot for doing that and then CHARGING MONEY FOR IT! :eek::notamused:
Some people...
-Gene-

Here's another video of a mechanic doing things that every one of us has done at some point:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udMRZTc8LRc

Funny I never took a hammer to a pedal, any part of my drive train or used channel locks to try to get an axle nut off. I am sure I am not the target (being in my mid-40's) but I just don't think the videos work.

I don't find either of these videos particularly amusing in the context provided. For that matter, that second video would most definitely discourage me from considering vintage. Maybe it's a Huffy-owner thing.

This tempts me to make a proper video showing how riding vintage is good - and how fellow C&V'ers make it all the better to own one.

-Kurt

no offense meant to the OP as it seems he may be the "producer" of the second video, but I just don't really get it. Was it supposed to be suggesting not to do your own repairs maybe?

For what it's worth I don't think I've ever done any of that stuff. Not recently anyway...

I could see the first video working well in series or in rotation with other short videos to get the idea across.

The second video was painful to watch. Almost as painful as watching me wedge aluminum cranks off with a pair of blunt chisels.

The second video was painful to watch. Almost as painful as watching me wedge aluminum cranks off with a pair of blunt chisels.

Or sawzalling a stuck seatpost.

-Kurt

Come on.
No one here has ever used a screwdriver and hammer on a Bottom Bracket ring?
What, everone has already purchased every proper tool for every possible problem?

Channel locks are better for removing the lockring on a Bottom Bracket. I did it yesterday and would do it again. And if that doesn't work, yes, I would go out and buy the proper tool. There's no sense in damaging it that way. Especially not when it's a potential customers bike.
I know you may have meant all of this in fun, but, proper maintenance of bicycles is a pet peeve of too many people around here. And I think it disgruntles alot of people when money gets involved.
-Gene-

Come on.
No one here has ever used a screwdriver and hammer on a Bottom Bracket ring?

Occasionally on cheap bikes with stuck BB rings that are of a diameter that doesn't agree with the curvature of my Park tool, but never like that video.

-Kurt

I took a sledge hammer to a bike once... but it wasn't to fix it. Perhaps you should make a video of that. Someone smashing a modern bike to pieces.

And the first video made very little sense IMO. I take that back, it made no sense. Perhaps say "You can't stop vintage!" or something, as that seemed to be the point made in the video.

The videos and the website work well toghther.........I don't get either, maybe its me.....:p

Okay, I have used a hammer on a quill stem to knock it loose. Metal on metal if it is a Huffy and metal on wood on metal if I care about the bike.

I didn't see the hammer being used on a bottom bracket ring, I saw it whacking on the pedals or crank arm.

I saw it whacking on the pedals or crank arm.

And finally, the chainrings and FD, mangling them pretty nicely.

-Kurt

Don't want to speak for the OP, but the second video seemed to me to be very much encouraging people to do their own maintenance, to avoid paying big $ for a hack. The reference to Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance is very apt since the incident that got Robert Pirsig started on the whole Quality thing around his motorcycle was a hack mechanic at a bike shop using a hammer and chisel to remove a cover - which ruined the motor eventually......

I have to say though that the first video didn't work for me....

Mark

ps. I have used both channel locks and hammer/punch to remove bb lock rings, and frankly don't find it an issue if you do so with care. I also use a bench vice to remove the fixed cup using the frame as the lever.....

markk900, please do speak for me (the original poster).
You've it the nail on the head, so to speak.
Thank You.

It would make far more sense in that context if the video was titled "The Modern LBS: Clueless," or something to that extent.

-Kurt

I thought the second video was actually pretty funny. I don't think it would make anyone want to buy a bike though, but if fixing their own is the idea, this video might actually encourage that.

Looked like the hammer struck randomly on and around the crank arm, chainrings and front derailleur. Not to mention the technique for putting the 2nd tire bead back on.

Come on.
No one here has ever used a screwdriver and hammer on a Bottom Bracket ring?
What, everone has already purchased every proper tool for every possible problem?

Use a little scrap of hardwood like oak, won't chew up the ring. I just did this to drift off a crown race.

Well, having spent many years in marketing, advertising and producing commercials, I can say that I'm not really sure what the point of those spots are. If it's to ride vintage, I'm afraid you've lost your audience. Beating on a bike assumes that vintage is nothing but problems, and that few people know how to fix them. "Oh look how fun honey, let's buy an old bike and take to a mechanic who has neither the tools nor inclination to work on it, then pay him an outrageous amount to fix...what fun!" The reference to Pirsig's book is lost on me as well. I never imagined any of those visuals when reading his great book. The first spot is interesting from a historic pov, but certainly the original intent of the film was to teach people what not to do. Makes cycling look dangerous, not something that I'd want for my children or myself, vintage or otherwise.