Foo - I passed my test

I was given a "random" drug test by my employer, and passed it without needing to cleanse.

I think I'll light up a huge one before today's ride, just to celebrate:thumb:.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gmyjj8-9sYc

Wow....every company puts in their employment guidelines that you agree to a possible random test, but I've never heard of a company actually giving one.

Wow....every company puts in their employment guidelines that you agree to a possible random test, but I've never heard of a company actually giving one.

+1

Actually, the company I work for now has no drug policy. The only company I've ever worked for that doesn't have such a policy.

I am trying to figure out why this is a big deal...?

Armed forces do them all the time - especially if they think some people are under the influence.

I am trying to figure out why this is a big deal...?

It's not a big deal if you don't do drugs :p

I'm so glad it proved to be a waste of their money.

It's not a waste of money if it has to do with safety related issues. People using heavy machinery for example.

It's not a big deal if you don't do drugs :pMy place of employment has had a bit of a problem with painkiller abuse, and one employee was busted for selling Meth at his home.

I've always joked openly about smoking pot, but hadn't actually smoked in a few months.

I use to get tested (randomly) at my former employment. It usually happened on specific days so a buddy and me would do killer amounts of B vitamins and hope to be called.

+1

Actually, the company I work for now has no drug policy. The only company I've ever worked for that doesn't have such a policy.

A lot of software companies don't have a drug testing policy. (Is it any wonder so many companies are turning out so much junk-ware?)

I was given a "random" drug test by my employer, and passed it without needing to cleanse.

I think I'll light up a huge one before today's ride, just to celebrate:thumb:.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gmyjj8-9sYc

celebrate?

It's not a waste of money if it has to do with safety related issues. People using heavy machinery for example.
That would be the case if the tests distinguished current intoxication versus prior use. Joe Schmoe smoking a doob with his buddies during the Sunday BBQ isn't going to be any more of a danger driving the forklift on Monday than he would if he had just stuck with beer.

I'm a walking pharmacy. It would break their measuring devices....they don't bother.

That would be the case if the tests distinguished current intoxication versus prior use. Joe Schmoe smoking a doob with his buddies during the Sunday BBQ isn't going to be any more of a danger driving the forklift on Monday than he would if he had just stuck with beer.

I'm speaking of current. At my work if you have an accident it is mandatory to get a drug test. So yes, it would probably most likely be related if the employee comes out positive.

celebrate?what part do you not understand?

I enjoy seasoning my rides occasionally, but haven't done it lately because I suspected they might drug test some of the higher paid employees in order to cut payroll.

Ya'lls be careful. There are such things as false-positives. I know this, man.

I work with Class 3 drugs so we get them all the time. You walk into work and they tell you you were picked today. Then you have 30 minutes to get to the clinic. Really 30 minutes it's written in the Standard Operating Procedure. You can refuse but that basically means your fired. It's not the company per say, their just following the FDA rules.

Ya'lls be careful. There are such things as false-positives. I know this, man.

did you get into the poppy seed bagels again?

what part do you not understand?

I enjoy seasoning my rides occasionally, but haven't done it lately because I suspected they might drug test some of the higher paid employees in order to cut payroll.

Just out of curiosity, what other drugs do you do?

Just out of curiosity, what other drugs do you do?

Looking for a duggie boyfriend? I hear they're the best ones.

what part do you not understand?

I enjoy seasoning my rides occasionally, but haven't done it lately because I suspected they might drug test some of the higher paid employees in order to cut payroll.

i don't understand the need to celebrate a given conclusion, unless you somehow passed a test that you shouldn't have? :innocent:

I'm speaking of current. At my work if you have an accident it is mandatory to get a drug test. So yes, it would probably most likely be related if the employee comes out positive.
Aside from brethalyzers, the closest any drug test gets to determining intoxication is a mouth swab, and those are relatively expensive so nobody really uses them. Most tests will be urine analysis, which will tell you if the subject has used illicit drugs somewhere within the last few days to a month, depending on their usage and metabolism. It doesn't tell you if they were high when the accident happened.

ETA: From what I've read, mouth swabs are only able to tell if the subject has used within the last 12 hours. So even those won't necessarily tell you if the subject is intoxicated.

did you get into the poppy seed bagels again?

Let's just say some OTCs can be shown as opiods in urine tests. So always have a backup plan. And a lawyer.

Just out of curiosity, what other drugs do you do?I have a prescription for Lortab 10/500 + Gabapentin for a back injury, but I haven't needed to take them since early December. Other than that, I consume alcohol a few times a week. It was no big deal to lay off the herb for a few months.

It's nice to know that I was clean when they asked for my urine.

Let's just say some OTCs can be shown as opiods in urine tests. So always have a backup plan. And a lawyer.

I just go through the list of drugs I have prescriptions for....the usually glaze over and move on or pass out.:lol:

i don't understand the need to celebrate a given conclusion, unless you somehow passed a test that you shouldn't have? :innocent:well, I had never passed a drug test before without a little prep work. Maybe celebrate isn't the right word, but it's unlikely that they'll test me again very soon.

You should see how nervous some of my co-workers are. I know for a fact that many of them smoke before work + at lunch.

i don't understand the need to celebrate a given conclusion, unless you somehow passed a test that you shouldn't have? :innocent:

just realized that if it was an HIV test, then even if it's - more or less - a given conclusion, then celebrations are in order. at least that was my experience.

Random drug testing has happened to me several times in both my commercial and my military job. And any accident or incident would result in a mandatory full toxicology test. Since I employ the "what if my wife and kids were with me" approach to the job, I don't have much to worry about regarding drug tests.

just realized that if it was an HIV test, then even if it's - more or less - a given conclusion, then celebrations are in order. at least that was my experience.

<scratches head> say wha?

just realized that if it was an HIV test, then even if it's - more or less - a given conclusion, then celebrations are in order. at least that was my experience.I won't argue with that. I knew i was clean, but I was afraid to even take the HIV test.

Forgot to add: Unless you're a known sample doper, testing for parole reasons, or applying to some kind of high security BS, then nobody is going to actually watch the the sample leave your body. There are a number of companies selling synthetic urine out there that will trick any test as long as the temperature is right (just about all kits supply a heat pack and thermometer strip). Of course, its illegal to dope a test (felony, I think), so don't get caught.

Aside from brethalyzers, the closest any drug test gets to determining intoxication is a mouth swab, and those are relatively expensive so nobody really uses them. Most tests will be urine analysis, which will tell you if the subject has used illicit drugs somewhere within the last few days to a month, depending on their usage and metabolism. It doesn't tell you if they were high when the accident happened.

ETA: From what I've read, mouth swabs are only able to tell if the subject has used within the last 12 hours. So even those won't necessarily tell you if the subject is intoxicated.

How much does a mouth swab costs? I bet it's cheaper than the $20,000 fine the company gets for accidents AND the medical/rehab/lawsuits/loss of employee production/overtime for replacements they have to go through for an employee who was stoned while on the job.

How much does a mouth swab costs? I bet it's cheaper than the $20,000 fine the company gets for accidents AND the medical/rehab/lawsuits/loss of employee production they have to go through for an employee who was stoned while on the job.
I don't know how much different tests cost. And how do you know if the employee was stoned on the job if none of the tests can determine that?

I don't know how much different tests cost. And how do you know if the employee was stoned on the job if none of the tests can determine that?

If an employee gets hurt, gets the swab test (which is what my employer does) and it comes out positive for the past 12 hours and it's NOW, then they probably would say he was stoned on the job. They do the test while the employee is in the company assigned emergency hospital for said injury. The test is immediate. That is in agreement with the contract the employee signs upon hiring.

If an employee gets hurt, gets the swab test (which is what my employer does) and it comes out positive for the past 12 hours and it's NOW, then they probably would say he was stoned on the job. They do the test while the employee is in the company assigned emergency hospital for said injury. That is in agreement with the contract the employee signs upon hiring.
That's fine. I have no problem with swab tests or anything else they can develop to determine intoxication. It's the urine (most companies) and hair analysis (getting more popular as it becomes less expensive) that I have a beef with.

Agreed. Urine tests show positive with poppy seed consumption and if certain allergy medications are taken. Hair tests show from way back as long as your hair is!

That is why i keep my hair really short.

That's fine. I have no problem with swab tests or anything else they can develop to determine intoxication. It's the urine (most companies) and hair analysis (getting more popular as it becomes less expensive) that I have a beef with.

I'm gonna shave everywhere except my bumside. If they want a hair sample, they're gonna have to work for it.