Northeast - Metro Boston: Good ride today?

Where'd you ride today?
I slacked off this winter; went skiing, used my trainer and have been out only a little.
What a great weekend! 37 miles Friday, 30 Sat. and 65 miles today. Went Dover, Wellesley, Weston Observatory, Lincoln, Concord, Carlisle and back via Sudbury, Wayland, Natick and Wellesley.

I'm riding Fixed Gear with fenders and 35c tires as long as there is so much runoff, salt, sand and our version of California earthquakes (aka potholes). I came back sans blinky and water bottle.; still great ride.

You?

I did a Southeastern MA ride today (Sunday) and ended up on the Cape. Great ride. On Tuesday I'll ride over to Providence, RI spend a day there then ride back to Boston (Newton, actually). I may do a longer loop out into western RI ( my old stomping grounds) and then back to Boston that way.

Lots of sand and salt and, yes, potholes. But all in all sure felt good to be out and on the bike again. Funny I say that because I commuted all winter but there's something different about a little road ride/tour.

Staurday I rode rte. 202 in New Hampshire (out and backk). Sunday I was down in Westminster, Leominster, Fitchburg, and headed home via rte. 12 to Winchendon. Great to be out on the road.

Buzzman, that sounds like a "Spring has officially arrived" ride. A northern route, I like Blackstone on up to Grafton, later in the season (later in my leg fitness). Sitting the porch at Figgs in Carlisle with a cup of chili defines the season for me.

Zipp, Nice ride. How is 202 this Spring?

Sunday: truly a "return of Spring" day. But as we see ... it must actually be the beginning of Winter.
I managed to get my old bones on the road bike for the first time since October for a fast 25 miles out to Dover and back. Slept well last night.

Hey Sherbornpeddler I picked rte. 202 because on the wide breakdowm lane, and I didn't want to get super wet. It was great 99% of the ride was nice and dry.

Zipp2001
My roads were uncomfortably narrowed by the sand and ice. Today is a snow day*.
As the roads clean up and potholes acquiesce, you must have great riding in your neck of the woods. I’m more familiar with roads further north and east Mason, Milford, Temple, New Ipswich, Peterborough.

I’ve ambition** to do a 200K starting east of Milford, MA looping around Peterborough.

* aka rest day after over doing "return of Spring"
** ambition: aka “chickened out so far”

I'm full of good intentions this time of year. But it's tough to actually get the rides in. I planned the ride well in that the weather sucked for riding on the Cape today. But tomorrow I'm aiming for Providence by lunch time. Don't know how the weather will be. Supposed to be sunny but on the cool side.

For those of you who head north- do you ever do a ride we used to call the Jaffrey turnaround? It makes for a good 100 miles+ from Newton/Belmont. We used to ride there, strike a match (Jaffrey is the match capital of the world- or was) and ride home. It's a good shake out the cobwebs ride.

Sherbornpeddler

I'm planning to ride up over Temple Mtn. into Milford then over to 13 back into Mass. sometime early spring. I haven't biked that way in a few years, but time to start rolling that way. My father-in-law lives in Milford so I have done a bunch of roads out that way. Do you know of any time trials in Sourthern NH. ? The two I did in MA. stopped many years ago, and now that i'm back on the bike i'm looking for one to do. My zipp's aren't USCF approved, so I have to find a TT that is not USCF run.

I'm full of good intentions this time of year. But it's tough to actually get the rides in. I planned the ride well in that the weather sucked for riding on the Cape today. But tomorrow I'm aiming for Providence by lunch time. Don't know how the weather will be. Supposed to be sunny but on the cool side.

For those of you who head north- do you ever do a ride we used to call the Jaffrey turnaround? It makes for a good 100 miles+ from Newton/Belmont. We used to ride there, strike a match (Jaffrey is the match capital of the world- or was) and ride home. It's a good shake out the cobwebs ride.

Buzzman, Let me know when you feel like cobwebbing. I hope you have a great lunch in Providence.

Sherbornpeddler

I'm planning to ride up over Temple Mtn. into Milford then over to 13 back into Mass. sometime early spring. I haven't biked that way in a few years, but time to start rolling that way. My father-in-law lives in Milford so I have done a bunch of roads out that way. Do you know of any time trials in Sourthern NH. ? The two I did in MA. stopped many years ago, and now that i'm back on the bike i'm looking for one to do. My zipp's aren't USCF approved, so I have to find a TT that is not USCF run.

Zipp
Hence the monicker! It was either that or a fan of the true genius in Doonesbury.

Sad it is that the World's greatest place to eat, the Wilton Diner on Main St, just off of 101 is gone; no longer providing swedish meatballs and blueberry creme pie.

The sum of my TT experience is the Dover TT, Dover MA. It is the best TT I've ever been to.....
7 miles, http://markdionne.com/tt.html

Great guys run it.

Speaking of cape rides, does anyone have a decent (scenic) ride from boston to provincetown? I hear there's a popular bike trail once you get closer to the cape.

Where'd you ride today? [3/8/09]

Nowhere; I had a big meeting (convention) in Boston. On Saturday, I did my 14 miles from Kenmore Square to Norwood and 14 miles back, with a tail wind. Not much, but I'm time-limited and most of my riding is in the early morning when it's still cold. You and Buzzman really get around though.

I don't start distances until May. In my mind, I think of the pleasant weather riding from May to October as "leg season," when people wear shorts en masse. It begins on the first Sunday in May with the Walk for Hunger, and ends on Columbus Day Monday with the Tufts 10K Road Race ;-)

Sherbornpeddler

I'm planning to ride up over Temple Mtn. into Milford then over to 13 back into Mass. sometime early spring. I haven't biked that way in a few years, but time to start rolling that way. My father-in-law lives in Milford so I have done a bunch of roads out that way.

I never cared for riding on Rt. 13. The section south of Brookline, through Townsend is just in terrible condition with no shoulder to ride on and kamikaze drivers (although those are everywhere). Can you come back via Rt. 31 instead, from Wilton NH down into the Willard Brook area east of Ashby? The road is a bit more biker friendly, especially in crummy springtime conditions.

I did get out Saturday too, riding down into the Holden and Rutland area.

I never cared for riding on Rt. 13. The section south of Brookline, through Townsend is just in terrible condition with no shoulder to ride on and kamikaze drivers (although those are everywhere). Can you come back via Rt. 31 instead, from Wilton NH down into the Willard Brook area east of Ashby? The road is a bit more biker friendly, especially in crummy springtime conditions.

I did get out Saturday too, riding down into the Holden and Rutland area.

Seems like wise advice. Back roads are pretty hilly but less travelled through Temple, Greenville and Mason?

I'm trying to come up with a well spoken pun, "like Rt. 13, I crack up when I heave a sign of Spring but that is being narrow minded about the fast drivers".

Nowhere; I had a big meeting (convention) in Boston. On Saturday, I did my 14 miles from Kenmore Square to Norwood and 14 miles back, with a tail wind. Not much, but I'm time-limited and most of my riding is in the early morning when it's still cold. You and Buzzman really get around though.

I don't start distances until May. In my mind, I think of the pleasant weather riding from May to October as "leg season," when people wear shorts en masse. It begins on the first Sunday in May with the Walk for Hunger, and ends on Columbus Day Monday with the Tufts 10K Road Race ;-)

Methinks Buzzman is better. I'm feeling either age or jumping to bigger miles in too-eager rites of spring. Pretty sure it is the miles.

Winterwalk and then the Marathon signal the end of spring and the last Dover TT is the end of the season pour moi.

Here is hoping for a long short season. :lol:

actually, taking the fenders off is the end of spring in Boston

Methinks Buzzman is better. I'm feeling either age or jumping to bigger miles in too-eager rites of spring. Pretty sure it is the miles.

Winterwalk and then the Marathon signal the end of spring and the last Dover TT is the end of the season pour moi.

Here is hoping for a long short season. :lol:

What?!! In my mind the Marathon is the start of "not too much more winter left." ;-)

What?!! In my mind the Marathon is the start of "not too much more winter left." ;-)

On the same note, aren't we supposed to get "another inch or two of partly cloudy" weather tonite? :roflmao2:

Methinks Buzzman is better. I'm feeling either age or jumping to bigger miles in too-eager rites of spring. Pretty sure it is the miles.

Winterwalk and then the Marathon signal the end of spring and the last Dover TT is the end of the season pour moi.

Here is hoping for a long short season. :lol:

ooooh, don't jinx me!:p I'm hanging in there but barely with the mileage increase.

I'm very slowly getting some miles in but not at too great a rate. Today was funny though. I'd ridden down to the cape on Sunday. Then spent the day yesterday in the rain/snow, reading and relaxing planning to ride over to Providence today. My wife was heading back to Boston in the car when I suddenly remembered I had a class to teach tonight in Boston (a reschedule). Threw the bike quickly on the back of the car and got back early enough to do a 25 mile loop out to Weston before hopping on the commuter for my usual 21 mile round trip. So I managed to get 46 miles in ( the ride to Providence would have been 53) so I'm not too disappointed.

Suzie Green

Thanks for the heads-up on rte. 13, (forgot how bad it was) maybe i'll hit rte. 124. I want to come out below Willard Brook, so I can ride thru it then follow rte. 119 back to rte. 202 in NH.


sherbornpeddler

Thanks for the lead on the Dover TT. I used to do the one in Gardner, and West Boylston and enjoyed them very much. I'm going to go do the Dover course in the next week of two, so I can get a lgood ook at the course. I haven't done a TT since 2001, and I really want to try it again.

It looks like some of us are within range of each other, what do you all think about doing a ride together ? I'm open for any distance, and don't mind driving somewhere to meet.

Zipp, Good invitation.
As the snow melts and more bikes blossum, we might gather more.

Got ideas for where? I can offer my familiarity with my area up to Carlilse and down to Franklin, less so to Grafton and Blackstone. I'm interested in Worcester and as discussed on up to NH but am someplace between Winter brittle and Spring sapling in terms of long distance fitness.

You're Millford, Peterborough ride sounds good. I have a fun ride that I do quite often that involves Worcester, George Street, and Mt. Wachusett. When it gets nicer just yell and i'll ride.

whew.

I'm back from my little "mid-winter tour". Managed to grind out 77 miles today on a semi-circular route from Providence RI back to Boston.

Headed west into a stiff, cold wind on 14W out of Providence across the Scituate Reservoir- still big chunks of ice but gorgeous on a cold sunny day. Then swung up 102 N to Woonsocket. Snaked through Woonsocket and zig zagged my way through Franklin and on up to Newton.

I was sooooooo slow. Part of it was the wind and my new front bag was giving me some grief. But 14 W actually has some tough climbs, as does 102. Lots of potholes, tons of sand and RI still has some of the most airhead of drivers, and I really wonder about how legitimate their car inspections are- so many cars with bad mufflers, non-working brake lights and body damaged.

Had some nice help for directions from some guys at a Sunoco in Woonsocket- one of the guys who worked there was a cyclist.

But it was tough- the daily commute keeps me fairly fit in comparison to the average person but I felt like a pretty out of shape cyclist today- the only thing impressive about today's ride was that I didn't wimp out and I got home in one piece.

you da man! Wow!

You're Millford, Peterborough ride sounds good. I have a fun ride that I do quite often that involves Worcester, George Street, and Mt. Wachusett. When it gets nicer just yell and i'll ride.

Is it just me, or does Mt Wachusett get steeper every year? LOL...these 50+ legs are finding it harder and harder to make it to the top! :lol: I do wish they would resurface the "down" road though. I'm scared to death when I descend. Conversely, the main road going past the ski area is fun, I can hit 50 mph on it. I feel like such a kid! :D

I only do this once in a while but how many of you use the "bit off more than I can chew commuter rail option" for your rides outside of Boston?

I've grabbed trains in Attleboro when I knew I left too late to make it home by dark. Same thing on the Framingham/Worcester line. And even on my most recent outing I had to make a quick detour back to Boston for an obligation I'd forgotten (my wife drove me back) but then to continue my trip cycled a quick 10 miles to the train station and grabbed the commuter train to Providence and pretty much picked up where I'd left off.

I feel "oh so European" when I do this. It also works if you want to get a jump on traffic on a long ride- take the train to Worcester, for example, as a start for a cross Mass. ride or up to NH or VT.

I had a late start on my long ride from Providence (1:15). I was reassured once I got to Franklin and much of the rest of my ride paralleled the commuter train so it gave me the option to ride to the next town at any time and just hop on the train.

Hey Buzzman: Would like to meet up with you and ride closer to the city sometime. I plan on taking my bike into Boston this year and spend the day rolling thru the city. My wife and I go there several times a year and spend the day walking the city, so now I want the bike part.

Suzie: I was doing Mt Graylock in N. Adams every year, but they closed it for two years to resurface the roads. It opens back up this year so i'll give it a shot, I like pain I guess.

I always hate the down road at Mt. Wachusett, but once you get on Mile Hill Rd. you can blast by the ski lodge. I'm not far behind you at 49 year old legs.

Hey Buzzman: Would like to meet up with you and ride closer to the city sometime. I plan on taking my bike into Boston this year and spend the day rolling thru the city. My wife and I go there several times a year and spend the day walking the city, so now I want the bike part.

Suzie: I was doing Mt Graylock in N. Adams every year, but they closed it for two years to resurface the roads. It opens back up this year so i'll give it a shot, I like pain I guess.

I always hate the down road at Mt. Wachusett, but once you get on Mile Hill Rd. you can blast by the ski lodge. I'm not far behind you at 49 year old legs.


IM me. I ride into and out of Boston pretty much every day. And, if I can maintain any kind of discipline, will be doing my loops west of the city with some regularity.

I have no speed right now so you may be disappointed if you're looking to hammer about.:p

Riding the FG w riding buddy up to Waltham for the museum bicycle exhibit (CRW going at 10AM but I'll be later) then looping around Waltham and back. Should be great weather and always great food on Moody St.

Suzie: I was doing Mt Graylock in N. Adams every year, but they closed it for two years to resurface the roads. It opens back up this year so i'll give it a shot, I like pain I guess.

I have never ridden up that mountain, I hear it is a LOT harder than Wachusett. My road bike has a 39x25 and if it's more difficult, I'd probably end up walking the steep parts. The top section of Wachusett really makes me work! I could probably do it on my MTB with the lower gearing.


I always hate the down road at Mt. Wachusett, but once you get on Mile Hill Rd. you can blast by the ski lodge. I'm not far behind you at 49 year old legs.

That's OK, I'm done getting any older. It'll take you 7 years but I'll just wait for you to catch up and pass me. :D

Hammer about ! Not umless I want to taken away in an ambulance. I'm hoping my son brings back my 2 winter bike's. He has had them with him at school since last fall, for him and his roomate to use. I've been using my Zipp's for winter riding which make's it tougher with the gearing I have on them. Buzzman i'll give you buzz (LOL) soon.

Suzie: Graylock is a lot tougher than Mt. Wachesett, from the N. Adams side. Some have told me it is easier from the back side, but I have never tried it from that side. The highest peak in Mass.

I have a place in western MA and do Greylock regularly. It has been closed for 2 years for the road reconstruction but my understanding is it is now complete. It's always been a great ride but improved road conditions should make it spectacular. My loop takes me up the backside (from the North) of the mountain, which is a bit steeper but was such an awful descent due to frost heaves and potholes that I preferred the somewhat less intense descent of the southern route.

I think a 39x25 would be tough unless you're in really good shape. There are some sections that are hairpin and extremely steep and come on the heels of a few miles of steady tough climbing. It's nice to have something to drop into so that you don't come to a screeching halt and tip over!:eek:

I hope to see you all up there this summer- the view is fantastic.:thumb:

You Young Legged Hill Climbers,
I gained weight as a 50 mile fixed gear flatlander today. Great bicycle exhibit at the Waltham Museum perfectly followed with lunch at Wilson's Diner then javaberry ice cream at Dairy Joy in Weston on to Concord and south along the Sudbury River to Wayland via Plain and Rice, over to Rivers School and back via Wellesley.

Late spring, early summer I should give Wachusett or Greylock a multispeed try.

Weekend is looking good!

Felt shi**y most of the week, no bike since last Sunday. Doing better today so will be down riding in Leominster Friday after lunch, no set route. Saturday I think i'll take rte.12 into Keene, NH. and back. Sunday will roll out of Westminster thru Sterling, Leominster, Fitchburg, Ashburnham, and then home. Can't wait to get the legs rolling again. I'll stop into Gearworks Friday and see Gene about a road bike. I haven't had a road bike set-up since I stopped racing about 12 years ago, been getting the itch for one lately.

I managed to get in a 45 mile ride out through Concord today. (in addition to my 20 mile commute- so a 65 mile total). I layered up and I was fine but then I got a flat about 10 miles from the end and had to take my gloves off to get the tire on the rim and my hands got brutally cold and I didn't have real warm gloves. My hands were so cold I could barely shift or brake and had to make fists and shake my hands out for a couple of miles. After I climbed a couple of hills at a high rate of speed I started warming up and was fine by the time I got home.

But it's still pretty cold out there! Some areas still had quite a bit of snow on the ground and I could feel the difference in air temperature when I was near it.

I'm still pretty slow but was happy I was putting some miles in.:o

I've been lagging y'all. Monday got back on the bike even though it was racing a dutch computer 20 miles on my indoor trainer.

Tuesday 37 miles Strawberry Hill loop. My FG is in the shop for it's free 200+ mile tune up/repair of a broken spoke and popped strand on brake cable) so I'm back on trusty Fierte.

Today, 104 miles via a sandwich in Carlisle, fig newton in Wayland, a zapped potato w/goat cheese at home then the same Strawberry Hill course. 17.2 mph avg. better than I expected. Wachusett and Greylock beckon.

Got out for a little 24 mile ride around town today. The next few days I have alot of tree clean up i'm doing for friends, so that's my workout. I haven't checked the weekend forcast yet, hope it's good to ride.

Finished tuning up my flamed Zipp2001, and had it picked up Tuesday. I have a friend that I let use every year for tri's, see it in the fall.

Got my winter Cannondale Multi-sport back from my son, spent 2 hours today breaking it down, cleaning, and tuning it up. That's what I rode for my ride today.

The black Zipp2001 is now down in the basement, and i'll break it down and tune it up over the next week or so.

The Zipp2001 unassembled frame is going to Gearworks in the next week or so to be sold. I've been putting it off because it's been with me since berth, and it's hard to let go.

...Today, 104 miles via a sandwich in Carlisle, fig newton in Wayland, a zapped potato w/goat cheese at home then the same Strawberry Hill course. 17.2 mph avg. better than I expected. Wachusett and Greylock beckon.


whoa! very impressive!:thumb:

I'm hoping to get some miles in tomorrow and a few more Friday- though I'm watching the weather and it's looking iffy for Friday- maybe I can grab some time on the bike on Saturday.

can't stand it....
http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?site=box&FcstType=graphical&map.x=167&map.y=134&site=BOX
Fixed gear is back
60F
added brake cable adjusters
sunny
must ride....

I managed to get in a 45 mile ride out through Concord today. (in addition to my 20 mile commute- so a 65 mile total)...I'm still pretty slow but was happy I was putting some miles in.:o


I've been lagging y'all. Monday got back on the bike even though it was racing a dutch computer 20 miles on my indoor trainer.

Tuesday 37 miles Strawberry Hill loop...

Today, 104 miles via a sandwich in Carlisle..17.2 mph avg. better than I expected. Wachusett and Greylock beckon.


can't stand it....
http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?site=box&FcstType=graphical&map.x=167&map.y=134&site=BOX...60F...sunny...must ride....

I rode 12 miles this week over three days--I was sick :cry:

I only do this once in a while but how many of you use the "bit off more than I can chew commuter rail option" for your rides outside of Boston? I haven't done an impromptu bail to a commuter rail per se, but I did do one ride to Holliston on my Trek to visit ANT and talk to Mike about building up a bike, then took the commuter rail back from Framingham because I had to be home in time for a dinner party.

I've also ridden the commuter rail out to Springfield to do a 400k in Westfield, then took the train back home; and also the girl and I planned a weekend around taking the North Shore bike train up to Rockport, overnight with some friends, then do a Tour De Cure century around Cape Ann and Essex County then ride back to Boston. That was a nice little weekend; and travelling by train has always been generally pleasant (if not always punctual)

oh, and just to add for spring riding so far ... I'm prepping for a 1000k out in Vancouver Island in June, so have been stocking the upcoming schedule with brevets out of Westfield and Hanscom. Did a 200k out in Westfield last weekend that went up to Deerfield, MA, then looped back and headed down to Simsbury, CT. A little chilly and windy, but got through it ok. This weekend, I'm just working on strength, but will probably do another century the next weekend and a 100k on the following.

Aside from that, it's the 6.7 mile commute from Belmont to downtown everyday for the past year or so. Glad, for once, to be able to commute again with just one layer.

James de Boston,
Sunday! Be sick on rainy Sunday. Not "sunny days"!
I wish you a speedy recovery.

I assume it is a cold and nothing too serious.
Speaking of health and biking, a very fine gentleman and dedicated cyclist hit a utility pole in Holliston, MA and suffered serious head, hip and other injuries. His helmet broke but no doubt prevented worse damage.

I have no idea what precipitated his accident but was reminded by a North Carolina transplant how bad are our spring roads with heaved open cracks and pot holes. Kepp your eyes on the road and not on my snappy odometer or other gizmos and gadgets.

oh, and just to add for spring riding so far ... I'm prepping for a 1000k out in Vancouver Island in June, so have been stocking the upcoming schedule with brevets out of Westfield and Hanscom. Did a 200k out in Westfield last weekend that went up to Deerfield, MA, then looped back and headed down to Simsbury, CT. A little chilly and windy, but got through it ok. This weekend, I'm just working on strength, but will probably do another century the next weekend and a 100k on the following.

Aside from that, it's the 6.7 mile commute from Belmont to downtown everyday for the past year or so. Glad, for once, to be able to commute again with just one layer.

Good golly!
Bravo brevet! I've never tackled an organized ride more than 100k. Maybe this year. I've got good lights now and I'm testing new orthotics. Sore feet are my weak link. ....Ok that and my sense of navigation.

SpokenW, so daily commuter miles between long weekend rides? Wow.

James de Boston,
Sunday! Be sick on rainy Sunday. Not "sunny days"!
I wish you a speedy recovery...

Thanks for your gracious note; see my PM reply.

I haven't done an impromptu bail to a commuter rail per se, but I did do one ride to Holliston on my Trek to visit ANT and talk to Mike about building up a bike, then took the commuter rail back from Framingham because I had to be home in time for a dinner party.

I've also ridden the commuter rail out to Springfield to do a 400k in Westfield, then took the train back home; and also the girl and I planned a weekend around taking the North Shore bike train up to Rockport, overnight with some friends, then do a Tour De Cure century around Cape Ann and Essex County then ride back to Boston. That was a nice little weekend; and travelling by train has always been generally pleasant (if not always punctual)


Great idea to grab the train to Springfield! Where did you get off and on to do that? I've been getting the notices of the Westfield brevets after doing the D2 R2 last summer but am philosophically challenged to driving a car to a bike ride so I haven't headed out to do any. I have a place in Western MA and when I'm out there I hope to join in on at least one of their rides. Especially since one of them goes only a few miles from my home.

In the meantime my rides are out here. My hope is to do the ride back from my Western MA place next weekend, which is just over 200k (136 miles). The hills and wind are in my favor on the way back to Newton so it's a better first long ride of the year for me than the reverse.:o

edit: I see that is an Amtrak train- the "Lake Shore Limited". How accommodating was that train to a cyclist? Did you need to box your bike? If that train is "bike friendly" that could be great for me.

probably already looked. looks like calling is necessary for official policy. http://www.amtrak.com/servlet/ContentServer?pagename=Amtrak/am2Copy/Title_Image_Copy_Page&c=am2Copy&cid=1080080554487&ssid=11114
It does look good, a standard $18, 2 hour ride from South Station, gets you in just after 2PM so either late start and night ride or depart the next day.

edit: I see that is an Amtrak train- the "Lake Shore Limited". How accommodating was that train to a cyclist? Did you need to box your bike? If that train is "bike friendly" that could be great for me. you have to box your bike and check it in as luggage. Not ideal, but I didn't mind it, and the station keepers at Springfield allowed me to leave the box in the station and reuse it on the return trip, so that I wouldn't have to pay the fee twice over.

I will post, as a warning, that the return train from Boston is notoriously late since it's frequently delayed by freight traffic using the same lines. Usually, I've only made train travel work by basing an entire weekend around it. (ie. take time off from work on Friday afternoon, arrive in Springfield friday night, ride on Saturday, return late Sunday).

Also, as an additional caveat to folks contemplating taking the train to Springfield and riding to Westfield, avoid Rt. 20. That road is a nasty piece of work (and this coming from a guy who commutes into Post Office Square on a daily basis), it adds a few miles to the journey, but it's much easier to just detour south via 147, Springfield St. and 57, then come into Westfield through N. Longyard and Shaker Rd.