Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - Velocity B43 Super Deep Rims

For those who care enough: Velocity posted pictures to the H+Son rival rims that are 1mm deeper.

http://velocityusa.blogspot.com/

textbook one uppery.


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THE NEW B-43 COMING May OF '09 :We've heard what people were asking for and it’s exactly this. We started developing this rim about 2 months ago, doing some research, talking to you and hearing what you had to say. The next step was convincing our main man Tom Black, el presidente and rim roller for Velocity Australia to take up the challenge. He stepped to the plate and got right on it. He had to re-outfit our manufacturing facility with new rollers, and drills, all while in the process of moving into their brand new facility. Its going to be a triple walled rim to make it bomb proof, nuke proof, which is why we named it the B43, after a Nuclear Warhead, and the city it is made in. We were going to call it the Brisbane 43, because the aluminum is mined there, extruded into the form of a rim, then hand rolled, drilled, and anodized/powder coated in Brisbane Australia. Brisbane is the home of some of the best Aluminum mines in the world, some of the hardest workers and our world headquarters hence the name the B43. And so there you have it.

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They look light.

Haha little kid style. Thanks for reposting that, I was too lazy to figure it all out I guess.

I wonder what these will weigh, not like it will really matter to most people that buy them.

whats the advantage in going "deeper"?

^^^ Style points, maybe stronger, and possible aero benefits.

Yay! The big question is will they be cheaper than the h+son?

Velocity will probably undercut the H+Son price by $0.01.

i dont like the name B43. maybe they should have gone with something like.... "Velocity Deeper V" ;D

Nice thing is that they should be a bit wider...

prolly had a blip about this as well. the general idea is they're heavier than the h+s and generally designed to be sturdy, rather than aero. i think they ought to be 21–24mm wide, though.

look interesting. wonder what they strength difference is between these and the h+son

They don't look any wider than a deep-v. My money says that this will be way cheaper than H+S because Velocity is bigger and has better distribution and retail channels. The QA should be better too. Cool to have more choices in aero alloy rims. This is almost as tall as a Zipp 303.

not sure who'd ride these for aero benefits, when the h+s is 100g lighter and will be available in lower spoke counts.


We definitely plan on doing a variety of drillings, at least 32h, 36h, and 48h. 650c will happen eventually. A variety of colors too. While they won't be the lightest rim on the planet, they shouldn't be a boat anchor either. The final product should be somewhere between 710 to 730 grams. We could make it lighter, but durability is our main concern.

Only carbon should be that Deep of a V imo.

They look really heavy and purposeless.

710-730 grams? 48 holes? No thanks.

they're being developed primarily for tricks, abuse, and heavy riders. my read is that the depth of the rim is for stiffness purposes and only coincidentally for aero.

i could see tandems and 29/cross/trail riders getting behind those, especially those clydes that don't care to shell out for carbon rims to lace up to their disc hubs.

only if you are doing tricks and ****, otherwise, NEXT

It's a good idea. Someone has to compete with the H+Son and none of the Italian companies that have 40mm deep rims on their lists (DRC, Gipiemme) has good distribution over here; Velocity does. You should also consider the Dodici rim. The current model was designed as a road aero rim back in the 90's before carbon rims spread like a pox.

i dont like the name B43. maybe they should have gone with something like.... "Velocity Deeper V" ;D

they're called B43 because there 43mm deep (1mm deeper than H+son)
oh and there supposedly 24mm wide. (as a refence point, deep v's are 19mm wide)

There also triple walled making them bombproof, like you said, mainly for trick, why else would they drill 48 holes?

polo?


and I'm sure they're coming in many drillings

polo?


and I'm sure they're coming in many drillings

Really rough commute?

if they aren't too expensive i'd consider them for my next wheel build. i have started CXing on my fixed, and its fun as hell. currently running 38mm tires on mavic cxp-22's, and with a 20lb bike, don't really care about weight. i have only had to true a few times, but the 48 spoke wheels would be bombproof, if only i didn't have to buy 96 spokes...

will see if i can get a discount on a box of spokes, or work something out with the LBS. any word when these will hit the american market?

ive heard info that theyll be similar in price to deep v

the name b43 makes me think of brooks saddles

We all know the deeper the V, the better.
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When people call me to ask if I have Deep Vs I will get to respond slyly:

"The Deepest."

this is a little too much like the past several years of shaving razors. first 2 blades then 3 then 4 i think we are up to a 6 blade razor now. lets just cut to the chase and make a wheel that the rim so deep that it connects straight to the hub, no spokes!


http://img.snlarc.jt.org/caps/episode_sketches/2000-05-06-3.jpg

you just described the disc wheel.

When people call me to ask if I have Deep Vs I will get to respond slyly:

"The Deepest."


Deep Carbon.

http://www.blackwellresearch.com/images/windtunneltests/IMG_0699.JPG

I wonder if they'll make a tubular version as well.

does aero really matter with risers, top tube pads and new era hats?

i don't think this wheel is about aero-- it's about strength (though a few mm wider would probably do a better job than a few mm deeper).

(that's what she said)

lol! thats what she said your own post.

Does anyone know when Velocity will have there new "color schemes" out with there wheels?...Or if they are available now to buyers?-I saw them on the net, but they aren't "out" yet to my knowledge

ugh.
pointless, novelty crap rims.
no thanks.

i don't think this wheel is about aero-- it's about strength (though a few mm wider would probably do a better job than a few mm deeper).

if you think this is about performance, youre kidding yourself!

if you think this is about performance, youre kidding yourself!

Yup.

Oh, and they did go a few mm wider...

if you think this is about performance, youre kidding yourself!

i don't. that's why i said this isn't about aero.

It's not really about aero or strength, IMO. Rims aren't regularly falling apart - there are lots of strong rims on the market. I think this is a response to H+ Son, this is about having the Deepest V, the biggest billboard to colormatch to your toestraps.

Incidentally, though, this rim will probably have some aerodynamic benefit at speed. And adding weight to gain aerodynamic benefit is not an uncommon thing.

they're not falling apart when ridden on flat surfaces in straight lines, but it's naive to assume that fixed gears are only being ridden that way.
wheelies, 180s, gaps, stairs, wallrides, polo... these bikes are being put through far more than they used to be, while also being used to travel distances at good speeds.
the game is changing; these wheels are the proto-wheel of the wheels urban fixed gear bikes will be using as a standard in three or four years from now.

honestly, they need to be emulating BMX rims and coming out w/ stronger spokes


the deep section is really not adding that much...the internal gusset is

People need to stop kidding themselves. Deeper is for looks. You want strength? Go wider and/or add more spokes.

I could honestly care less about the depth thing; I know the Velocity rep is taking stabs at the H+Son rims. Deeper for being "aero" on the street doesn't make much sense to me. All I want are some wide rims that won't break. Right now I'm back to Deep Vs because I broke everything else I tested. Sure, I was wrong (http://prollyisnotprobably.com/2008/11/back_to_basics.php). I can admit when I'm wrong.

http://prollyisnotprobably.com/2009/03/is_deeper_better.php

http://prollyisnotprobably.com/2009/03/is_deeper_better.php

Exactly the post I was going to refer to... until I made it all the way down the thread and saw your post.

Speaking of a wider Deep V (http://velocityusa.blogspot.com/2009/04/new-velocity-chukker.html) - just posted

i don't. that's why i said this isn't about aero.

im saying its not about strength either.