Advocacy & Safety - Washington DC Helmet Article

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mrpleasant
03-13-09, 08:13 AM
Good article from Washington's City Paper.
http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/display.php?id=36898
invisiblehand
03-13-09, 08:37 AM
Personally, I thought that it was virtually propaganda.
noisebeam
03-13-09, 09:30 AM
I stopped reading when I got to this:
"No one wanted to blame Swanson for her own death, but many noted the myriad ways in which bikers put their lives in jeopardy, either by not riding in bike lanes, ..."
I-Like-To-Bike
03-13-09, 09:34 AM
I stopped reading when I got to this:
"No one wanted to blame Swanson for her own death, but many noted the myriad ways in which bikers put their lives in jeopardy, either by not riding in bike lanes, ..."
I suffered the over-the-top baloney a little bit longer but quit at:
"Correctly worn, bike helmets are about 70 percent effective in preventing damage on impact."
I stopped reading when I got to this:
"No one wanted to blame Swanson for her own death, but many noted the myriad ways in which bikers put their lives in jeopardy, either by not riding in bike lanes, ..."
Too bad as the article went on to explain that she was doing everything right.
But yeah, the general tone of the article was a bit preachy.
As a side note I find it interesting that helmets are not usually worn in countries where cycling IS really part of the transportation modal share...
closetbiker
03-13-09, 10:09 AM
Personally, I thought that it was virtually propaganda.
Yeah, and I wonder who managed to get this tripe printed. My guess would be that the BHSI might have had something to do with it. Randy Swart promotes helmet use relentlessly, he is based in the area, and the BHSI is quoted a couple of times.
70% effective in preventing damage on impact? Two-thirds of bicyclist deaths are from brain injuries? Misleading at best.
That 70% damage prevented is superficial damage and almost every death to a cyclist is at the wheels of a motor vehicle and that type of impact is something no bicycle helmet can protect against.
No one would get this impression from the article though. Someone who is not familiar with the issue would be misled by this. They would never get that if drivers and cyclists used the roads safely, it would be far more effective at lowering injury and death rates than if every single cyclist wore a helmet.
invisiblehand
03-13-09, 10:23 AM
Randy Swart promotes helmet use relentlessly, he is based in the area, and the BHSI is quoted a couple of times.
Yep ... Randy is just across the Potomac in Arlington. Nice guy. Funny thing, when it comes to general advocacy -- mainly the Bike Arlington committee -- I never heard Randy mention helmets in the past year.
10 Wheels
03-13-09, 10:23 AM
It was interesting.
Thanks for posting it.
Ajenkins
03-13-09, 10:24 AM
Cool!
It's about time that a newspaper published a Fantasy & Science Fiction section.
closetbiker
03-13-09, 11:48 AM
Yep ... Randy is just across the Potomac in Arlington. Nice guy. Funny thing, when it comes to general advocacy -- mainly the Bike Arlington committee -- I never heard Randy mention helmets in the past year.
I've exchanged a number of emails with Randy and it seems to me he is a nice guy. He has a lot of good information on his site but unfortunately, there are a couple of fatal flaws with it.
One is that he says, whether people know it or not, they need helmets. Another is his use of the TRT study out of the Seattle area in 1989. That he ties fatalities to cyclists to this study exposes a major crack in his reasoning. The study showed children who fell from their bicycles while cyclist fatalities involve a collision with a motor vehicle. To link the 2 as justification to wear a helmet is unconscionable.
invisiblehand
03-13-09, 12:09 PM
The study showed children who fell from their bicycles while cyclist fatalities involve a collision with a motor vehicle.
Hmmmm ... what does this mean ClosetBiker?
Square & Compas
03-13-09, 01:56 PM
I stopped reading when I got to this:
"No one wanted to blame Swanson for her own death, but many noted the myriad ways in which bikers put their lives in jeopardy, either by not riding in bike lanes, ..."
They either should have left this part out or given more info on more details on Swanson's death and collision with the garbage truck, or at the very least provided a link one could click on to find the details.
This is a prime example of media bias and not telling the whole story.
Square & Compas
03-13-09, 01:59 PM
I suffered the over-the-top baloney a little bit longer but quit at:
"Correctly worn, bike helmets are about 70 percent effective in preventing damage on impact."
It would have been nice to have a source of this and the other statistics and percentages quoted. A link one could click on that would take someone to a site that shows these stats. would be sufficient.
Again more media bias.
closetbiker
03-13-09, 05:52 PM
Hmmmm ... what does this mean ClosetBiker?
Well, maybe it means those who try to equate young children who fall over on their bikes (the '89 TRT study) to adults colliding with motor vehicles in full flight (fatalities), are intentionally misleading their audience into thinking bicycle helmets are far more effective than they actually are.
A logical disconnect comes when you say "helmets prevent 85% of injuries, therefore they would prevent 85% of deaths". That the article starts out with an example of a cyclist being run over by a bus and credits her survival to a bike helmet shows how misled people have been. Bike helmets are not made for collisions with motor vehicles. To imply that they are is irresponsible.
I recently emailed the Snell Foundation and asked why they funded these Seattle area studies. They said the studies were funded to provide evidence that helmets were effective. Not to see if they were effective. They had already decided that the study would provide this information. To further their cause, they hired an author who had previously been involved in helmet use promotion. It's no wonder helmet manufactuers fund lobby groups who use this study as "proof" helmets will save lives. Since Bell funded Snell as well (when I asked, they couldn't find the records showing just how much they were paid, but I have a source that said Bell provided half of Snells funding) you could say this whole thing is a great move by Bells marketing department. They hardly have to spend a thing anymore and any exaggerations of claims of a helmets effectiveness cannot be tied to them.
BarracksSi
03-14-09, 07:53 AM
I thought it was interesting that the Washington City Paper did this article. They've usually got an anti-establishment bent, and I would've thought that it would be either anti-helmet or simply neutral.
I-Like-To-Bike
03-14-09, 08:46 AM
I thought it was interesting that the Washington City Paper did this article. They've usually got an anti-establishment bent, and I would've thought that it would be either anti-helmet or simply neutral.
Interesting? I'd say this article's appearance (as written) in the Washington City Paper is rather bizarre.
closetbiker
03-14-09, 09:52 AM
Interesting? I'd say this article's appearance (as written) in the Washington City Paper is rather bizarre.
I'd say it's a bit of politicking.
Someone or some group is trying to drum up support to get people to buy helmets (or pass a law) while ignoring the real problem, which is the responsible interaction of traffic.
It's funny that in none of the excuses given for not wearing a helmet, is that there is a legitimate argument that bicycle helmets have limitations and that often the incidents that result in serious injuries to cyclists are beyond the limitations of a bicycle helmet. Nor is the excuse given that the risks of incident or injury are relative. The article takes it as a matter of course that just because one rides a bike, they are more likely than others to have a serious incident or injury.
I see lots of anecdotal stories that tug on peoples heartstrings. I wonder why they manage to ignore those same stories that happen to helmeted cyclists in areas where they have enforced all ages mandatory helmet laws?
nick burns
03-14-09, 10:49 AM
It's funny that in none of the excuses given for not wearing a helmet, is that there is a legitimate argument that bicycle helmets have limitations and that often the incidents that result in serious injuries to cyclists are beyond the limitations of a bicycle helmet.
Maybe because it's something that doesn't need to be said.
closetbiker
03-14-09, 11:04 AM
I know it doesn't need to be said in my neck of the woods. The presence of a dead cyclist that had been wearing a helmet is commonplace.
invisiblehand
03-14-09, 11:55 AM
Maybe because it's something that doesn't need to be said.
Unfortunately, I disagree. Talking to other parents and colleagues, when the discussion of helmets comes up I also ask what their expectations are. My anecdotal experience is that their expectations are wildly disproportionate to the evidence and science of helmets.
Putting more emphasis on wearing helmets instead of how one rides is a problem, IMO.
RobertHurst
03-14-09, 12:32 PM
Unfortunately, I disagree. Talking to other parents and colleagues, when the discussion of helmets comes up I also ask what their expectations are. My anecdotal experience is that their expectations are wildly disproportionate to the evidence and science of helmets.
Putting more emphasis on wearing helmets instead of how one rides is a problem, IMO.
Agreed. Bicyclists and non-bicyclists ascribe magic powers to helmets. This is very bad from a safety standpoint imo.
Unfortunately, I disagree. Talking to other parents and colleagues, when the discussion of helmets comes up I also ask what their expectations are. My anecdotal experience is that their expectations are wildly disproportionate to the evidence and science of helmets.
Putting more emphasis on wearing helmets instead of how one rides is a problem, IMO.
And yet other than a totally voluntary program offered by the LAB in the US, I know of no program that puts emphasis on "how one rides" with the same fervor as the various legislation enacted regarding helmets.
nick burns
03-14-09, 02:46 PM
Guess I must just live in an area rich with intellectuals because most people I know seem to recognize that all helmets have limitations. This includes bicycle, motorcycle, batting, football, construction, etc. Only a fool would believe any helmet can protect against everything. If such a helmet could make those claims, it would be virtually unwearable.
closetbiker
03-14-09, 03:37 PM
... Only a fool would believe any helmet can protect against everything...
Agreed. However, this article tries to make a fool out of it's readers.
It costs $40 and could save your life...One winter day in 2002, Carol Tyson had no idea how badly she’d need her bicycle helmet...As she prepared to take a left off of New Hampshire Avenue and onto Quincy Street NW, she turned to look behind her and saw an empty 66 Metrobus...the driver didn’t even feel it when she ran Tyson over, bike and all...Tyson’s skull was fractured, along with both eye sockets, but she credits her helmet ... with saving her life.
Even the BHSI says this type of thing is bunk
http://www.bhsi.org/truck.htm
While we would all like to believe that a helmet could save a cyclist run over squarely by the wheel of a car, truck or bus, that is not the case...There is no crush criterion or test in any bicycle helmet standard, and for good reason. A helmet that is capable of protecting a cyclist's head from a true full runover by a motor vehicle wheel would have to be reinforced far beyond any current bike helmet. It would be too heavy for bicycle use...It is curious that the articles never focus on the cause of the crash, or how it might be prevented next time. The press apparently does not consider the associated safety message to be newsworthy.
invisiblehand
03-14-09, 03:50 PM
Guess I must just live in an area rich with intellectuals because most people I know seem to recognize that all helmets have limitations. This includes bicycle, motorcycle, batting, football, construction, etc. Only a fool would believe any helmet can protect against everything. If such a helmet could make those claims, it would be virtually unwearable.
They don't think that it can protect against everything. You are absolutely right that it would be foolish. But ask specific questions about helmet efficacy -- how much do your odds improve say against mortality given a collision; if you passed a helmet law for children, by what proportion would you expect serious injuries/mortality to decrease; and so on -- and I generally get estimates that defy empirical observations and are nonrandom. That is, they almost always overstate the efficacy of a helmet ... by a lot in my opinion. When I follow up and broadly discuss the research out there and what helmets are designed for they are usually quite surprised.
I should point out that I don't find the quality of answers to be much different from people trained to understand statistics and probability versus the more quantitatively average folk. So I think that there is a true bias out there and this glip glop of an article is consistent with it.
I've always found the best way to protect my brain is to use it.
closetbiker
03-15-09, 08:20 AM
Yup. People always want simple answers to complex questions even if those simple answers are wrong.
It's much easier (and profitable) to place your faith in an item that can be purchased rather than learning what it is that leads to collisions, developing both skill on the bike, and judgement in observations, to avoid situations that can develop into collisions.
When they say using a helmet is a no-brainer, I guess it can be. Once a lot of people put on a helmet, they feel no more brain work is required.
Basil Moss
03-15-09, 12:14 PM
Yeah, the article was trash. I stopped at "prevent 70% of head injuries". I honestly think that the bicycle helmet was one of the worst things ever to happen to cycling.
I thought the article was hideous, and extremely damaging to cycling advocacy; the whole preachy screed about helmets was just a pretext to relentlessly reinforce the totally false belief that bicycling is inherently more dangerous than other forms of transportation. I'm appalled, and sincerely hope that DC-based cyclists give the author of this article all the hell she so richly deserves.
That said, I always wear a helmet. I'm not confident it would do much good in a serious collision with a car, and helmets do look pretty stupid, but it's much better than no protection at all, so what's the harm in wearing one?
While I am a helmet wearer, I just cannot see the point to justify helmet laws.
Who has the right to say what I should do, or shouldn't do, so long as it doesn't hurt anyone else? I wear my seatbelt too, but unless there is a study that proves my flying corpse poses a risk to others in a collision then that shouldn't be a law either.
Luckily here we have the compromise that I can agree with, children under 14 are required to wear a helmet and those above can risk their lives as they see fit. I would like to note, that no cycling injury I have ever had would have been prevented by a helmet, in addition all of them were from my own poor choices or reckless actions.
Around here (stafford/fred/spotsy area) I think helmet use might be 20-30%, save for downtown fredericksburg were it is like 50-75%.
I got to the part where it was implied that a helmet would save your life if you got hit by a bus and dragged along the concrete for eighty feet...then I burst out laughing and closed the browser tab.
I think the vast majority of helmet advocates are people who have never ridden a bike.
closetbiker
03-16-09, 07:38 AM
While I am a helmet wearer, I just cannot see the point to justify helmet laws...
What happens is, people read stories like this, begin to associate cycling with being a dangerous activity and then start to believe that if only cyclists would wear helmets they would be safe from all those dangers.
It doesn't matter whether any of this is true, just the fact that they now believe this will be enough for an opportunistic politician to introduce a law "for the good of the people"
dynaryder
03-16-09, 12:07 PM
Q: how do you know you've been smoking too much dope?
A: Scrooge must be the only person ever to fall wearing a helmet and decide never to wear one again. “The helmet didn’t let me feel where I was in space as I was tumbling,” he says. “I didn’t know, when I landed, if I was OK because I didn’t know what had happened.” He says helmets keep you from fully experiencing the space you’re in, so they put you more at risk.
(and yes,I've met him)
I'm actually going to give AZ crap about the gloves/tanlines the next time I see him. I think the one that gets me the most is when I see people riding around with helmets not on their heads. Looped on their handlebars,attached to their bags/racks,everywhere but on their head. I mean,what's the point of even having it? If you're crashing,do you use your mad ninja skillz to put it on your head before impact? (and if you're that fast,shouldn't you just be able to land on your feet?)
Basil Moss
03-17-09, 12:28 PM
I fell wearing a helmet several times. Then I decided not to wear it any more, because I was fed up with hitting my head every time I fell. Since I stopped wearing it, I've fallen several times without hitting my head. It's surprising how, without a blob of styrofoam to kid you you are untouchable, you take a lot more care. Added to which a helmet makes your head twice as big and a little heavier. So your friend "Scrooge" isn't the only one, and unless the fearmongers tighten their clammy grip, he won't be the last.
Pig_Chaser
03-17-09, 12:55 PM
We should come up with a highlight reel for this article. Here's my favorite:
"But he does wear gloves to avoid road rash, a bigger concern, apparently, than head trauma."
closetbiker
03-17-09, 02:19 PM
maybe because gloves prevent road rash better than helmets prevent brain trauma?
crackerdog
03-17-09, 02:32 PM
Since cars are the danger and helmets don't do much at those speeds, I suggest we require cars to have foam padding all around them. Bicyclists and pedestrians aren't dying from falling down, they are dying because cars are killing them.
closetbiker
03-17-09, 03:02 PM
good idea.
http://www.tdcanadatrust.com/tdinsurance/images/image_tdi_home.gif
and in real life Toyoda Gosei (an offshoot of Toyota) equipped cars with camera and radar sensors to detect pedestrians and (presumably) activate the outer airbags to protect anyone within range of the car. The hood airbag is supposed to cushion your head while the grill airbag cushions your waist, making the fact that you are getting run over a teensy bit more comfy.
http://technabob.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/toyoda-gosei.jpg
nick burns
03-17-09, 05:41 PM
maybe because gloves prevent road rash better than helmets prevent brain trauma?
But wearing gloves implies that hand injury is more common in cycling than in other activities where gloves are not worn, when in fact that may not be true. There is the possibility it may even make cyclists fall on their hands more, out of false security.
Just look what modern motor vehicle safety technology may be doing to drivers:
http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/research/4308670.html
closetbiker
03-17-09, 06:07 PM
Nah, it's just that gloves do the job they were made to do. No one ever claims that by wearing them, there will be no broken wrists, burst blood vessels, or damaged nerves because of the gloves. They just claim road rash on the palms will be prevented.
dynaryder
03-18-09, 06:56 AM
I fell wearing a helmet several times. Then I decided not to wear it any more, because I was fed up with hitting my head every time I fell. Since I stopped wearing it, I've fallen several times without hitting my head. It's surprising how, without a blob of styrofoam to kid you you are untouchable, you take a lot more care. Added to which a helmet makes your head twice as big and a little heavier. So your friend "Scrooge" isn't the only one, and unless the fearmongers tighten their clammy grip, he won't be the last.
Um,yeah,ok. :rolleyes:
FYI,this has been bandied about in the motorcycle world for some time. Studies have shown that wearing a motorcycle helmet does not make your head more likely to hit the ground in a crash. And motorcycle helmets are significantly larger and heavier than bike helmets.
Also,you might want to learn how to fall. I've fallen over a couple times on the street,been doored once by a car,and have crashed many times playing bike polo. My helmet's never touched the ground. I still wear one because if I do go down hard it's better than nothing,the visor helps keep rain off my glasses,and it's a good place to mount lights.
I do have a question for you though. I'm curious about your thought process. Are you saying that having just a helmet made you feel invulnerable when riding around moving objects weighing thousands of pounds? What was the logic?
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