"The 33"-Road Bike Racing - Another day at the office for Big George

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Greg180
03-16-09, 06:21 PM
ghincapie: 290 watts average today for 6 hours 45 min. 6700 kjs. Ouch!!!tough day on the bike.
about 8 hours ago from TwitterBerry
Dude is strong! :twitchy:
ghincapie: I forgot 5200 meters of climbing as well.
Wow. My current FTP is set at 290 watts. I can only 'theoretically' hold that for 1 hour.
:twitchy:
gsteinb
03-16-09, 06:50 PM
he's 'big' though
patentcad
03-16-09, 07:38 PM
There are no words for how ridiculous is is to average nearly 300 watts for 6+ hours. That is off the friggin hinges boys.
That's why he is George Hincapie, and you're not.
patentcad
03-16-09, 07:57 PM
I averaged 290 watts for a 20 min TT. That's what I had. That makes my FTP about 260. What's George's friggin FTP? 500? Good grief.
It really is unbelievable. Not just George, but other pros, and even guys here like Dr. WJO and RacerEx. If I wasn't so stupid I'd quit riding immediately.
patentcad
03-16-09, 08:27 PM
If I wasn't so stupid I'd quit riding immediately.
But you can't can you? I'm even stupider.
We all are.
We are all F'd.
What a life.
Greg180
03-17-09, 05:28 AM
he's 'big' though
Yeah 6'3" but only 165 pounds. I'm 6' 3"+ but at 185. He averaged 3.87 Watts per kilogram on that ride. I'm still shaking my head.
gsteinb
03-17-09, 05:34 AM
Imagine what the guys are doing that are actually winning races.
timmyquest
03-17-09, 05:50 AM
Any idea what Da Ulrich could pump out for that amount of time at his peak?
bdcheung
03-17-09, 06:48 AM
Imagine what the guys are doing that are actually winning races.
They're not riding around for 6 hours at 290 watts, based on the various training updates I've come across via personal websites and twitter tweets.
gsteinb
03-17-09, 06:58 AM
They're not riding around for 6 hours at 390 watts, based on the various training updates I've come across via personal websites and twitter tweets.
How about at 290, like 'Big' George.
I wonder what 'Big' Jens Voight does. How long until the 'Big' tweet tweet thing blows over? Lance just tweeted that he's picking up his dry cleaning.
timmyquest
03-17-09, 07:06 AM
I wonder what 'Big' Jens Voight does. How long until the 'Big' tweet tweet thing blows over? Lance just tweeted that he's picking up his dry cleaning.
Tweeter has been around for a few years now. It has recently reached the tipping point. It will be here for a while.
bdcheung
03-17-09, 07:06 AM
How about at 290, like 'Big' George.
I wonder what 'Big' Jens Voight does. How long until the 'Big' tweet tweet thing blows over? Lance just tweeted that he's picking up his dry cleaning.
oops, typo
patentcad
03-17-09, 07:21 AM
Imagine what the guys are doing that are actually winning races.
George has not only won a lot of big races in his day (including a Tour de France stage) he has successfully completed something like 11 Tours, and I do believe he is always in the top 1/3 of the field, finishing as high as 14th in the G.C. Hardest working man in bike racing. He's also a big man (175 lbs) for a bike racer, so I doubt there are too many guys cranking more watts than George.
Major results:
Hincapie at Saint-Flour during the 2004 Tour de France
1988
United States National U17 Road Race Champion
1991
World U19 Track Cycling Championships, Pursuit - 3rd
1992
1st, TTT, US Olympic Trials
1994 – Motorola-Magniflex
1st, 2 stages & Points Classification, Tour de Luxembourg
1st, Stage 3, West Virginia Classic
1995 – Motorola
1st, 8 of Chaam (Netherlands)
1997 – US Postal
1st, Stage 1, Setmana Catalana
1998 – US Postal
United States National Road Race Cycling Champion
1st, Overall, Killington Stage Race
1999 – US Postal
1st, First Union Classic
1st, Points Competition, Tour de Luxembourg
1st, Stage 6, PruTour
2001 – US Postal
1st, Gent-Wevelgem
1st, BMC San Francisco Grand Prix
2002 – US Postal
59th, Overall, Tour de France
2003 – US Postal
7th, Overall, Tour of Belgium
47th, Overall, Tour de France
2004 – US Postal
1st, Overall, Three Days of De Panne
33rd, Overall, Tour de France
1st, Stage 4 Team Time Trial
2005 – Discovery Channel
14th, Overall, Tour de France
1st, Stage 15
1st, Stage 4 Team Time Trial
1st, Kuurne-Brussels-Kuurne
32nd, Overall, Dauphiné Libéré
1st, Prologue
1st, Stage 7
1st, GP Ouest-France
2nd, Paris-Roubaix
2006 – Discovery Channel
United States USPRO National Road Race Championships
32nd, Overall, Tour de France
Maillot jaune after stage 1, worn during stage 2
2nd, Prologue
2nd, Overall, Eneco Tour of Benelux
2nd, Prologue
1st, Stage 4 (ITT)
Red jersey after stage 4
3rd, Ronde van Vlaanderen
4th, Overall, Tour of California
1st, Stage 2
1st, Stage 5
2007 – Discovery Channel
1st, Overall, Tour of Missouri
1st, Stage 2
2nd, USPRO National Championships Road Race
20th, Overall, Tour de Georgia
3rd, Stage 6
24th, Overall, Tour de France
3rd, Prologue
2008 – Team High Road
Tour of California
Stage 3, Most Aggressive Rider
1st, Stage 7
1st, Stage 2, Dauphiné Libéré
gsteinb
03-17-09, 07:24 AM
leave it to PCad to miss the point.
bdcheung
03-17-09, 07:28 AM
leave it to PCad to be blinded by manlove.
ftfy
Lithuania
03-17-09, 07:58 AM
Tweeter has been around for a few years now. It has recently reached the tipping point. It will be here for a while.
if they plan on sticking around they need to figure out how to make money.
gsteinb
03-17-09, 08:02 AM
Hardest working man in bike racing.
I thought that was Lance.
patentcad
03-17-09, 08:11 AM
leave it to PCad to miss the point.
Leave it to gsteinb to obfuscate his point so that only he gets it.
bdcheung
03-17-09, 08:13 AM
if they plan on sticking around they need to figure out how to make money.
From what their investors have said, they have a business model ready to launch; they're just waiting for the right time.
though who knows what amount of truth is in that statement.
gsteinb
03-17-09, 08:13 AM
Indicating that there are stronger guys out there who win more and bigger races and i wonder what their power is is obfuscation? I kind of think it's you, not me.
patentcad
03-17-09, 08:17 AM
Indicating that there are stronger guys out there who win more and bigger races
Over the course of a career as long as Hincapie's? Not really too many g. He's had a helluva run. My major point is that if there are pros stronger than George, they are marginally stronger. Of course the difference between 14th in the G.C. and podium at the Tour is that margin, but it's not a big one. In other words if George averages 290 watts for 6+ hours, my guess the strongest pro on the planet averages 300 or 310. In other words, I'm sure George is pretty friggin close to that.
patentcad
03-17-09, 08:19 AM
In retrospect, I must retract my earlier statement. The hardest working man in bike racing is actually gsteinb.
gsteinb
03-17-09, 08:20 AM
my guess
exactly
Lithuania
03-17-09, 08:23 AM
From what their investors have said, they have a business model ready to launch; they're just waiting for the right time.
though who knows what amount of truth is in that statement.
the feeling around the office if the business model is "who will buy us?"
patentcad
03-17-09, 08:23 AM
exactly
Differences on that level are typically marginal, particularly with respect to power output. Good luck finding a guy who can crank much more wattage than G. Hincapie.
Another BF Pissing War over absolutely nothing. Hey, why not? It's just like Talk Radio.
wfrogge
03-17-09, 08:36 AM
he's 'big' though
160-165 isnt big
gsteinb
03-17-09, 08:36 AM
Actually, you're the only one who'd in a pissing war. You're offended I asked a question.
bdcheung
03-17-09, 08:46 AM
the feeling around the office if the business model is "who will buy us?"
heh.
"why should we buy you?"
:D
Lithuania
03-17-09, 09:02 AM
because we have x million hits a day
Greg180
03-17-09, 09:56 AM
because we have x million hits a day
They were offered $500m by face book, (in stock), and they turned it down. Somehow I believe that it will morph into something worthwhile. Look what's happened to My space and Face book.
Actually have you ever considered the lost productivity from networking on these sites. Take the time commitment Pcad puts into BF. :innocent:
Lithuania
03-17-09, 10:08 AM
oh i have no doubt and I really hope they do because its good for business :D
gsteinb
03-17-09, 10:14 AM
Imagine what the guys are doing that are actually winning races.
Why do you hate America?
Scummer
03-17-09, 10:16 AM
Wasn't there a tweet about Lance and his "training rides" in Hawaii? Keep it below 315W for the 4 hour training ride? WTF?
procrit
03-17-09, 10:32 AM
Wasn't there a tweet about Lance and his "training rides" in Hawaii? Keep it below 315W for the 4 hour training ride? WTF?
I can keep it below 315W for EIGHT hours. How about that?
gsteinb
03-17-09, 10:40 AM
Do they twitter about their bowel movements and stuff? That would be kind of interesting...
tweet tweet: I just took the hugest dump. I swear it was bigger than a baby
tweet tweet tweet: I totally just rubbed one out. Dunno if that was a good idea. I read on BF that sort of thing may effect performance.
I photographed the Twitter dudes a few weeks ago and they were VERY in the moment. I really wanted to tell them to take the first offer and have a great life. I swear that I shot in their space before the dot.bomb and there were a couple of other paper lions that thought it would never end.....
Twitter is this years Tamagotchi/Urban Sombrero/gimmick. Pointless noise.
bdcheung
03-17-09, 12:10 PM
I photographed the Twitter dudes a few weeks ago and they were VERY in the moment. I really wanted to tell them to take the first offer and have a great life. I swear that I shot in their space before the dot.bomb and there were a couple of other paper lions that thought it would never end.....
Twitter is this years Tamagotchi/Urban Sombrero/gimmick. Pointless noise.
When Google first started, were they making any money? (the question is not "did they have a plan on how to make money?")
What about Facebook?
MY point is that 3.87 W/kg for 6 hours is ******** RIDICULOUS. Also, there's no question he puts out more power overall than his protected teammates. Cavendish, for example, or Contador on his team, produce significantly less watts than their domestiques over the course of the race.
SushiJoe
03-17-09, 03:16 PM
I'm "big"-- 6'4 and 177lbs. :D I can only do 288W for 20 minutes, lol!
patentcad
03-17-09, 03:59 PM
Actually, you're the only one who'd in a pissing war.
Don't flatter yourself. I don't need you for a Pissing War.
patentcad
03-17-09, 03:59 PM
Don't flatter yourself. I don't need you for a Pissing War.
Yes you do.
patentcad
03-17-09, 04:00 PM
Yes you do.
No I don't.
patentcad
03-17-09, 04:01 PM
No I don't.
Yes you do.
patentcad
03-17-09, 04:01 PM
Yes you do.
You're proving my point.
ridethecliche
03-17-09, 05:41 PM
They were offered $500m by face book, (in stock), and they turned it down. Somehow I believe that it will morph into something worthwhile. Look what's happened to My space and Face book.
Actually have you ever considered the lost productivity from networking on these sites. Take the time commitment Pcad puts into BF. :innocent:
Facebook just made some changes that make it look like twitter. It's stupid and annoying...
VosBike
03-17-09, 06:13 PM
The average or normalized power or whatever is just fine for a PRO.
What made George's ride in the stage impressive was the speed of his leadout to close down Bennati's move and deliver Cav for a chance to win his man cards back from Farrar.
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