"The 33"-Road Bike Racing - When will cycling coverage catch up to NASCAR?

I'm talking full HD coverage, bubble callouts for riders with power, speed, heartrate like NASCAR does. Certain riders "mic'd up" like they do in the NBA and NFL. Live streaming of all races like the NCAA is doing with the tournament.

What's your over/under on 2015?

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Whenever hicks stop breeding and poseurs take over the gene pool.

isn't nascar basically a crit in bowl?

Cycling hasn't been popular in America since, what, the 20s? I'd say this is about as big as it's getting. As it is, the major sports are already losing interest to cable tv, and the myriad other sports that now exist.

...bubble callouts for riders with power, speed, heartrate...

Please god, no.

isn't nascar basically a crit in bowl?

The similarities between crit racing and NASCAR on a restrictor-plate track (i.e. the really big ones) are pretty pronounced. The only real difference is that in a crit, the sprint at the end is more interesting. All the rest is the same, just stay out of the wind, don't crash and conserve fuel.

can someone tell me how the RBR entrance exam is progressing?

Oh ya, and I don't expect bike racing to ever get that popular....

isn't nascar basically a crit in bowl?

Left! Left! Left!... Left!

can someone tell me how the RBR entrance exam is progressing?

Red Bull Racing?

The similarities between crit racing and NASCAR on a restrictor-plate track (i.e. the really big ones) are pretty pronounced. The only real difference is that in a crit, the sprint at the end is more interesting. All the rest is the same, just stay out of the wind, don't crash and conserve fuel.

have you raced a criterium?

Red Bull Racing?

you scored an F

:p

have you raced a criterium?

Yes. Someone like you might be on the nose of the thing the entire time. I'm not.

Have you raced cars on an oval?

Yes. Someone like you might be on the nose of the thing the entire time. I'm not.

Have you raced cars on an oval?

nope, never. but I have raced lots of crits, there is way more to them than staying out the wind and conserving fuel, way more.

The similarities between crit racing and NASCAR on a restrictor-plate track (i.e. the really big ones) are pretty pronounced. The only real difference is that in a crit, the sprint at the end is more interesting. All the rest is the same, just stay out of the wind, don't crash and conserve fuel.

there you go, proof positive that nascar is boring.

Why would you not want to see power? That would be cool to see the power output of someone trying to bridge up to a break. Or maybe to see the power ramp up in the peloton in the lead up to a sprint.

What would also be cool would be delayed broadcasts with the race radio audio compiled together to give you an idea of things that were discussed and different strategies. I'm guessing the teams might not want that stuff broadcast even after the race is over though.

Left! Left! Left!... Left!

until the first road course.

When bike racing attains the audience of NASCAR in the US. I wouldn't hold your breath.

there you go, proof positive that nascar is boring.

I agree. Show up for the last 5 minutes, and you'll pretty much get the gist of the race.

In terms of crit tactics, I'd love to learn more. At my low level (Cat 4), I haven't seen team tactics play a huge part of anything. I've probably been in about 40 bike races, but many more car races. At the higher levels there are all sorts of strategies and sub-plots in both disciplines, but at the lower levels it's mostly about finishing.

When bike racing attains the audience of NASCAR in the US. I wouldn't hold your breath.

...one of the reasons why this is difficult is because NASCAR, and a lot of other sports too, have arenas full of paying customers who then go on to pay nine bucks for a Bud Light, twelve bucks for a ratty hot dog, et cetera. They are also a captive audience to advertisers.

isn't nascar basically a crit in bowl?
Worse. It's like a really long scratch race on a large velodrome.

They already show power/HR/cadence/speed for most of the Tour stages.

And SRM has live telemetry streaming.

Oie, given that I live 30 minutes from Bristol Raceway, and seeing how CRAZY this area goes for NASCAR, and how crazy they get when a few cyclist slow down their drive - I doubt 2015 would even be close.

Maybe if we were forced to become a bike-centric society then it may happen, until then.... not a chance.

Btw... it's "race weekend" here this weekend - excellent time to get out and ride as everyone is up in Bristol. :D

Oie, given that I live 30 minutes from Bristol Raceway, and seeing how CRAZY this area goes for NASCAR, and how crazy they get when a few cyclist slow down their drive - I doubt 2015 would even be close.

Maybe if we were forced to become a bike-centric society then it may happen, until then.... not a chance.

Btw... it's "race weekend" here this weekend - excellent time to get out and ride as everyone is up in Bristol. :D

i spent a night in bristol last year. not sure how i got out alive, but i did.

My family is from Bristol.

i spent a night in bristol last year. not sure how i got out alive, but i did.

Because you weren't sportin' the Louis Cyr 'stache then.

Because you weren't sportin' the Louis Cyr 'stache then.

back then i had a beard.

these days it's more dali meets custer meets swearengen meets nieztche.

but, seeing as tomorrow is the first day of spring, it's coming off.

IMO...Cycling like Soccer is a Euro sport. Most Americans do not understand the sport, rules and tactics of and its required physical abilities. Same thing with cycling. I enjoy cycling because I respect the discipline and physical effort of the participants. If I would never have jumped on a bike and suffered on it I doubt I would have any interest in the sport. Lance or no Lance. Americans just don't "get it".

Nascar is for the masses. Loud, confined, simple with anticipated calamity. Plus they have lots more sponsorship money and better PR people.

Nascar is for the masses. Loud, confined, simple with anticipated calamity.

You epitomize how cycling positions itself. It's for egotistical, self-righteous elites who think they are 'above the masses'. Get over yourself.

It's the same game, with slightly different twists, as is any other sort of racing, be it horses, airplanes or wiener dogs.

NASCAR is for beer guzzling, frites eating, blue collar stiffs. or wait, is that bicycle racing? I get confused with these sports talk radio discussions on fri afternoons.

I think I kind of resemble a weiner dog though, short legs, fat middle, big nose, and chicks dig me.

You epitomize how cycling positions itself. It's for egotistical, self-righteous elites who think they are 'above the masses'. Get over yourself.


Hmmm...I missed that inference in my post. But isn't your response more indicative of egotistical and self righteous. Just askin :innocent:

You epitomize how cycling positions itself. It's for egotistical, self-righteous elites who think they are 'above the masses'. Get over yourself.

It's the same game, with slightly different twists, as is any other sort of racing, be it horses, airplanes or wiener dogs.

jesus h. christ, you really don't have a fraking clue, do you?

Nascar is for the masses. Loud, confined, simple with anticipated calamity.

How was this supposed to come across?

jesus h. christ, you really don't have a fraking clue, do you?

Isn't about time you get banned again? I was talking about in the US.

NASCAR is for beer guzzling, frites eating, blue collar stiffs. or wait, is that bicycle racing?

Exactly. Go into a bar in America on Sunday and you get NASCAR. Go into a bar in Europe any day a race is on, and you get bikes or Formula 1. They're a similar demographic, they just talk different.

Isn't about time you get banned again?

nimwit replies FTW!


I was talking about in the US.

incorrect. you weren't "talking", you were typing. duh.

I'm talking full HD coverage, bubble callouts for riders with power, speed, heartrate like NASCAR does. Certain riders "mic'd up" like they do in the NBA and NFL. Live streaming of all races like the NCAA is doing with the tournament.

What's your over/under on 2015?

http://www.afar.net/images/stories/news/nascar-tv.jpg

They're getting there. I was very impressed when they started showing some of the rider's heart rates.

nimwit replies FTW!

incorrect. you weren't "talking", you were typing. duh.

What a complete waste of oxygen. I hope you enjoy that life you've got going on. The wanna-be Euro-trash fits you to perfection.

The sad part about you is that you actually do have something to add to the conversation, but you're such a tool that no one cares.

What a complete waste of oxygen. I hope you enjoy that life you've got going on. The wanna-be Euro-trash fits you to perfection.

The sad part about you is that you actually do have something to add to the conversation, but you're such a tool that no one cares.


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I take it all back. Please be my friend. Anything but a picture on the internet that says 'fail'.

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Look, I don't apologize for my opinion of Botto. I'm certainly not the only one that sees him in this light. He begs for it. You can bet your ass I'm not going to cry in a corner because he wrote something against me. I find it curious that I'm a nimwit for responding, but he's somehow superior for attacking? Wrong. He's just another internet tough guy hiding behind a keyboard 1/2 a world away.

Dude, your should zip your fly. Your insecurity is starting to show through.

Is this towards me, Brian? I'm not the one attacking everyone for everything and I'm not the one that has been booted off the board 3 time in the last month. Of my many faults, a lack of self-worth is not high on the list.

Is this towards me, Brian? I'm not the one attacking everyone for everything and I'm not the one that has been booted off the board 3 time in the last month. Of my many faults, a lack of self-worth is not high on the list.

who taught you how to count, bernie madoff?

I think I'll be optimistic here and say never.

who taught you how to count, bernie madoff?

No, your mom did. Did the B_ F_ that up, too?

motogp has a better chance.

And that is not much of a chance.

who taught you how to count, bernie madoff?

I must say I love your posts where you make some sort of reference. I usually have no clue at all what you are "typing" about and it leads to a nice couple of hours looking up who and what you mention (I am hoping I do not know these things because I am young but I doubt that). I now know who Bernard Madoff is and what a Ponzi scheme is. Plus I usually have to look up a lot of the words you use since I have a horrible vocabulary. You are single handedly making me smarter. Thanks! :thumb:

You live in within spitting distance of New York City and have just heard about Madoff on BikeForums? You need to get off your bike and pick up a newspaper sometime, dude.

You live in within spitting distance of New York City and have just heard about Madoff on BikeForums? You need to get off your bike and pick up a newspaper sometime, dude.

I believe (hope) he was being sarcastic.

It's for egotistical, self-righteous elites who think they are 'above the masses'.

We're not?