BMX - Need some help, have a few questions =)

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bja86
03-23-09, 07:01 AM
Hi,I just got back into BMX got my fixed gear road conversion up and running , now im craving bmx again, so it's been a while since i've ridden bmx, so I have a few questions.

1. why do I see alot of complete bikes being sold without brakes are they fixed gear , if they are ... why?

2. I'm 5'10 180 pounds, should i get a longer frame like 21 tope tube?

3, is there anything else i should know about bmx nowadays?

I'm looking for just a descent bike dk, wtp,fit.. somewhere along those lines, I really want to cruise to the schools, do some grinding,park riding I also want to do some dirt jumping aswell.
Also are there any descent completes around 200-250?
Ive looked but I want other opinions, i dont know about all the new stuff out there

Thanks

Brian


timothyday
03-23-09, 12:52 PM
1. These are not fixed-gear bmx bikes. There is a trend to ride brake free, though most completes do come with an optional brake. When riding without a brake I use the foot-on-rear-tire stopping technique when necessary.

2. I'm 6'1" and ride a 20.75" top tube. It's a matter of taste and feel. Try a few and see whats cozy.

3. If you are INTO bikes than I'd recommend getting a frame and parts and building something up. CL here in Philly always has BMX parts and completes for a deep discount. As long as the frame is 4130 Cro-Moly steel than you'll be good to go.

Enjoy.

bja86
03-23-09, 03:19 PM
Awesome ,thanks for the reply, I am very into bikes. I actually was looking at a cheap eastern dragon frame for like 50 bucks on craigslist, i already have some alex rims off my old chromo torker, i plan on using temporarily until i get a descent set, half the fun is building the bikes hehe .

I was leaning more towards a complete and upgrading because ive been out of the game for so long, but now that i think of it building one would be the best option for me even money wise , alot of bmx parts around here for sale.

Brian


Street rider
03-23-09, 05:43 PM
easterns kinda suck though. probably wont last too long, even if you're just gettin back into it.

bja86
03-23-09, 06:02 PM
Yea ,I'm sure you are right, it's just a temp frame until I save up for something descent.=)

Brian

Street rider
03-24-09, 05:54 AM
well then i guess it should last long enough

joe<3FIT!
03-24-09, 09:31 AM
i wouldnt use eastern they crack.
fit dents pretty easy so that wouldnt be good for you.
i would have to say a good S&M frame.
i had a LAF and that thing was a tank!



and im 5'9 and i ride a 21'' top tube and i have no problems but my dropouts are really short so i can still manual and stuff like that.
every eastern part i had broke for some reason. yet there are still pros riding them with no problem.

and build your own bike dont buy a complete. mix and match

minichamp31
03-24-09, 01:42 PM
Fits are good frames. Don't listen to this clown. He's trying to be funny.

Street rider
03-24-09, 06:25 PM
and im 5'9 and i ride a 21'' top tube and i have no problems but my dropouts are really short so i can still manual and stuff like that.



is that comfy? im 5' 10" and im lookin to get a new frame...only ever ridden 20.5, and i was lookin to size up for something that fits better

CMcMahon
03-24-09, 10:01 PM
i had a LAF and that thing was a tank!

That's funny, because myself (and everyone else I know that rode one) cracked it at the headtube.

Ryan k.
03-24-09, 10:05 PM
dude why does every one say that eastern frames suck, they dont i love eastern frames

dervish
03-24-09, 10:09 PM
dude why does every one say that eastern frames suck, they dont i love eastern frames

agreed, i loved my eastern element when i had it. and i also love my eastern night train which has been holding it extremely well to the abuse i have put it through

bja86
03-25-09, 12:15 AM
cool, im hoping to get that frame, do a little build up.=)

Street rider
03-25-09, 04:05 PM
dude why does every one say that eastern frames suck, they dont i love eastern frames

hahahahahahahahahahaha you're funny.







but no more tomfoolery from you.

bja86
03-25-09, 11:34 PM
I'm possibly trading my ex girlfriends beach cruiser for a 2007 Free Agent imperial, full chromo, looks like a cool bike =D im stoked

Street rider
03-26-09, 07:24 AM
go for it

FuzzyRyder
03-27-09, 11:45 AM
i wouldnt use eastern they crack.
fit dents pretty easy so that wouldnt be good for you.
i would have to say a good S&M frame.
i had a LAF and that thing was a tank!

and build your own bike dont buy a complete. mix and match

S&M and Fit are the same company if you didn't know, and buying a solid complete is a good way to start off with a good bike and then just upgrade from there.

bja86
03-29-09, 07:07 PM
I ended up getting a used 2008 Fit AM complete for 165, kid who had it took the detangler off so running straight cable which is much better, it's a bit heavy though, what are the best parts to switch out to make it lighter?

I was thinking about running breakless,I love the simplicity plus im not riding in the street or near people plus thats a little bit off weight off the bike and will make me commit better to my attempts.

If i end up not liking it ill put it back on hehe

minichamp31
03-29-09, 07:43 PM
If I were you, I would try to upgrade the frame ASAP. Ask FitRider about it.

bja86
03-29-09, 08:42 PM
oh really, weak frame or something? , hah now you got me worried

wethepeople
03-29-09, 08:52 PM
**** bike.

minichamp31
03-29-09, 09:01 PM
Yeah, pretty much.

bja86
03-29-09, 09:30 PM
**** bike.

my bike sucks?? just the frame ?? =(

FuzzyRyder
03-29-09, 11:17 PM
It's made out of hi-tensil crap steel. The rear triangles usually end up getting mangled and warped right away or just snap off.

Street rider
03-30-09, 08:10 AM
frame should be the first thing to go...the rest of the bike is halfway decent

bja86
03-30-09, 09:01 AM
frame should be the first thing to go...the rest of the bike is halfway decent

hmm, well I dont know what I'm looking for in a frame, I guess I would want a slightly longer frame maybe 21, what are some good frames for lets say 200-250? or point me in the right direction?

btw what type of descent tubing should I be looking for?

minichamp31
03-30-09, 09:54 AM
The Fit Hawk is still on sale for $180 on Dan's. It comes in a 21". Get it. You just want a full chromoly frame. 4130 is the strongest I believe.

FuzzyRyder
03-30-09, 11:35 AM
Don't buy anything other then chromoly.

bja86
03-30-09, 12:23 PM
Don't buy anything other then chromoly.

I looked at the specs for the Fit Am i have, says its 4130 chromoly, can chromo be high tensile, i dont know a whole lot about bmx tubing?

I was actually looking at the fit hawk frame a few days ago, looks like a descent frame, maybe i will pick one up in a few weeks.

FuzzyRyder
03-30-09, 02:46 PM
The Fit am has at best the top tube chromoly. It is a little kids starter bike essentially, short frame, and 90% of the frame is hi-tensil. Even the Fit Pro is a POS.

Street rider
03-30-09, 04:26 PM
actually i think it might be the DT...

bja86
03-30-09, 04:45 PM
actually i think it might be the DT...


Are you saying just the down tube is chromo or the downtube is high tensil?

Either way I'm going to learn on that frame until I upgrade hah, took it to the school was just hopping down the 5 stair a few times, boy do my arms hurt haha using muscles I havent used in forever =P, oh yea and i ate sh*t trying to maual down my drive way hah.

Brian

Street rider
03-30-09, 05:41 PM
yea i think its the DT thats chromo. sorry for the confusion. i havent seen an AM in forever though so im not sure on the specs. a lot of crap frames have just the DT chromo that it has the most strength on the bottom. i guess.

FuzzyRyder
03-30-09, 11:36 PM
Doesn't make a difference.

Street rider
03-31-09, 06:07 AM
not really. i was just sayin lol