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03-25-09, 10:47 AM
Alright I'm gonna geek out on this, long post...
It sucked.
Here's where it started to go downhill for me- 6 and giaus enter the cic and people in there are busy finishing off some cylons who got in. Someone yells "This one's still alive!" and Adama sez something like "Get it the frak out of here!".
Alright folks, the guy wouldn't have yelled that, he would have simply shot the cylon. If he did yell that, maybe cuz he didn't have a gun on him or something, Adama wouldn't tell him to get it out of there, he would have said "Shoot it!" This is where things started to break down for me because it was a completely inorganic moment, it made no sense except to allow what happened next which is, the cylon is cavil and he grabs hera, they make the deal for resurrection (did tigh even know they could give them resurrection?), via the process tyrol sees what tori did and kills her which screws up the deal which gives the colonials their chance to escape...
In other words that whole inorganic exchange was a sloppy way to get to the sloppy mechanism the writers created to wrap up the war subplot. After the deal got ruined what happens? Kara plugs in coordinates (based on the tune that apparently also gave them the coordinates for the colony) and they find earth and essentially the story (the main plot) is over.
So it was just a bit too contrived for me, how they wrapped up the war between cylons and humans. But I could have accepted that- after all it's a tough thing to find organic ways for convoluted stories to wrap up- if they would have simply explained kara. Ever since she came back what kara is has been a major issue. They made it an even bigger issue over the last few episodes before the finale. So it's a cop-out extrordinaire to leave it, as ron moore said in an interview, like this: 'I think Kara is whatever you want her to be'. No, sorry. You made it a huge plot point and a huge issue in the show, it's your job to freakin' explain yourself. I mean, we're talking a whole season with "what is kara" hanging over every episode and they don't explain it? Sons o' b...
So here's my ending, and I'll explain the why's afterwards: after the jump, or during the jump, kara suddenly finds herself in some formless white place and then that piano playing guy is there. Imagine this happens in a real high-quality, battlestar galactic-y way... So he doesn't explain this directly, it's all intimation and dialogue, just not exposition, but ultimately here's what the deal is: he is essentially some kind of immortal, formless entity and he took an interest in humans because life is just interesting to him (some kind of immortal intelligence out there in the universe wouldn't really be alive or dead as we think of it), plus it was weird that humans along w/ cyclons got themselves stuck in a loop of destroying themselves. He got... bored, let's say, or just kind of saddened by this so he did 2 things- #1 he seeded our earth so humans would develop there, and #2- he started to prod a few key people- people he knew held a certain special capacity (for instance being plugged in to this tune that's apaprently born out of some sort of pattern in the universe) and would be able to fill in key roles if his plan was gonna work.
So again the dude just can't explain all that, because that would be hack and even more inorganic than the whole "end of the war" mechanism, but that's what we can pull from it.
He tells kara flat out that he brought her back because she held the location for both earths in her- earth 1 because her dead body and beacon were there, and earth 2 because the location of it was tied to this tune which is an expression of some sort of background information in the universe that's, you know, a part of everything, blah, blah, but kara was more intimately tied to it than anyone else and knew it had something to do with the bigger picture. So he brought her back because he knew she could fill this role, and she's filled it (the jump brings them to earth) so for $@#%ing around with her, by way of apology, he's going to let her decide what happens to her next. She can go back and live out the rest of her life on earth, or he can undo what he did and let her be dead, essentially, or she can live with him, which essentially means being a formless, immortal intelligence in the universe which isn't like being alive or dead, really. So 3 choices.
We're back on galactica- let's say this happened during the jump- and the jump is over and after everyone figures out they're not dead they discover kara is missing, they also discover earth is right ahead. Go ahead and take a moment for someone to say "I have a feeling kara is where she wants to be" or something like that, whatever. Then we cut to a little while later and adama is with laura, she's all dying, and he's showing her pics of the new earth and also how there's humans there and she talks about how she can't wait to see it and he mentions the cabin, whatever, and adama says something like they're looking to build a city and laura says something like "No. We go from ship to city and back again and all the same mistakes are made. Let's meet these people on their own terms, let's shed our baggage and start over." We have a moment and the last thing we see is the fleet over earth. The end.
Except for the epilogue where we see 6 and giaus in manhattan- we can have that same scene at the end.
Alright, here's why: I want all the mysteries that have been in the show since the beginning explained, that's a large part of why I've been watching it. Frankly I don't need to know the fate of all the individual characters. It could even be more open-ended than what I described. I don't need to see laura die, I don't care if tyrol is gonna live all alone in the highlands, it doesn't matter. I can accept a little bit of "fill in the blanks" regarding the end but I can't accept fill-in-the-blanks for stuff that's been with the show forever. The idea of the piano guy as being an instance of this intelligence prodding kara, and this piano guy revealing himself and saying, basically, "everywhere in the show where it seemed like there was some hand of fate going on? That was me helping you guys to start over", that's not a new character or even new information, that intelligence has been with the show since day 1, revealing what it is is only natural. Telling the viewer "All that stuff from day 1 including what kara is? It's up to you!" is a cop-out. In contrast, letting the viewer imagine what kara's choice was (as in my ending) is perfectly fine, it's not a plot point, the show is over. So is letting the viewer imagine what exactly the fleet does is fine. The sub-plots and plot need to be wrapped up- we wrapped up who the final 5 were and their relationship to all of this, we wrapped up (clumsily) what happened to the human/cylon war, so just wrap up what kara is, find earth and be done with it.
Yikes, alright, geek out.
It sucked.
Here's where it started to go downhill for me- 6 and giaus enter the cic and people in there are busy finishing off some cylons who got in. Someone yells "This one's still alive!" and Adama sez something like "Get it the frak out of here!".
Alright folks, the guy wouldn't have yelled that, he would have simply shot the cylon. If he did yell that, maybe cuz he didn't have a gun on him or something, Adama wouldn't tell him to get it out of there, he would have said "Shoot it!" This is where things started to break down for me because it was a completely inorganic moment, it made no sense except to allow what happened next which is, the cylon is cavil and he grabs hera, they make the deal for resurrection (did tigh even know they could give them resurrection?), via the process tyrol sees what tori did and kills her which screws up the deal which gives the colonials their chance to escape...
In other words that whole inorganic exchange was a sloppy way to get to the sloppy mechanism the writers created to wrap up the war subplot. After the deal got ruined what happens? Kara plugs in coordinates (based on the tune that apparently also gave them the coordinates for the colony) and they find earth and essentially the story (the main plot) is over.
So it was just a bit too contrived for me, how they wrapped up the war between cylons and humans. But I could have accepted that- after all it's a tough thing to find organic ways for convoluted stories to wrap up- if they would have simply explained kara. Ever since she came back what kara is has been a major issue. They made it an even bigger issue over the last few episodes before the finale. So it's a cop-out extrordinaire to leave it, as ron moore said in an interview, like this: 'I think Kara is whatever you want her to be'. No, sorry. You made it a huge plot point and a huge issue in the show, it's your job to freakin' explain yourself. I mean, we're talking a whole season with "what is kara" hanging over every episode and they don't explain it? Sons o' b...
So here's my ending, and I'll explain the why's afterwards: after the jump, or during the jump, kara suddenly finds herself in some formless white place and then that piano playing guy is there. Imagine this happens in a real high-quality, battlestar galactic-y way... So he doesn't explain this directly, it's all intimation and dialogue, just not exposition, but ultimately here's what the deal is: he is essentially some kind of immortal, formless entity and he took an interest in humans because life is just interesting to him (some kind of immortal intelligence out there in the universe wouldn't really be alive or dead as we think of it), plus it was weird that humans along w/ cyclons got themselves stuck in a loop of destroying themselves. He got... bored, let's say, or just kind of saddened by this so he did 2 things- #1 he seeded our earth so humans would develop there, and #2- he started to prod a few key people- people he knew held a certain special capacity (for instance being plugged in to this tune that's apaprently born out of some sort of pattern in the universe) and would be able to fill in key roles if his plan was gonna work.
So again the dude just can't explain all that, because that would be hack and even more inorganic than the whole "end of the war" mechanism, but that's what we can pull from it.
He tells kara flat out that he brought her back because she held the location for both earths in her- earth 1 because her dead body and beacon were there, and earth 2 because the location of it was tied to this tune which is an expression of some sort of background information in the universe that's, you know, a part of everything, blah, blah, but kara was more intimately tied to it than anyone else and knew it had something to do with the bigger picture. So he brought her back because he knew she could fill this role, and she's filled it (the jump brings them to earth) so for $@#%ing around with her, by way of apology, he's going to let her decide what happens to her next. She can go back and live out the rest of her life on earth, or he can undo what he did and let her be dead, essentially, or she can live with him, which essentially means being a formless, immortal intelligence in the universe which isn't like being alive or dead, really. So 3 choices.
We're back on galactica- let's say this happened during the jump- and the jump is over and after everyone figures out they're not dead they discover kara is missing, they also discover earth is right ahead. Go ahead and take a moment for someone to say "I have a feeling kara is where she wants to be" or something like that, whatever. Then we cut to a little while later and adama is with laura, she's all dying, and he's showing her pics of the new earth and also how there's humans there and she talks about how she can't wait to see it and he mentions the cabin, whatever, and adama says something like they're looking to build a city and laura says something like "No. We go from ship to city and back again and all the same mistakes are made. Let's meet these people on their own terms, let's shed our baggage and start over." We have a moment and the last thing we see is the fleet over earth. The end.
Except for the epilogue where we see 6 and giaus in manhattan- we can have that same scene at the end.
Alright, here's why: I want all the mysteries that have been in the show since the beginning explained, that's a large part of why I've been watching it. Frankly I don't need to know the fate of all the individual characters. It could even be more open-ended than what I described. I don't need to see laura die, I don't care if tyrol is gonna live all alone in the highlands, it doesn't matter. I can accept a little bit of "fill in the blanks" regarding the end but I can't accept fill-in-the-blanks for stuff that's been with the show forever. The idea of the piano guy as being an instance of this intelligence prodding kara, and this piano guy revealing himself and saying, basically, "everywhere in the show where it seemed like there was some hand of fate going on? That was me helping you guys to start over", that's not a new character or even new information, that intelligence has been with the show since day 1, revealing what it is is only natural. Telling the viewer "All that stuff from day 1 including what kara is? It's up to you!" is a cop-out. In contrast, letting the viewer imagine what kara's choice was (as in my ending) is perfectly fine, it's not a plot point, the show is over. So is letting the viewer imagine what exactly the fleet does is fine. The sub-plots and plot need to be wrapped up- we wrapped up who the final 5 were and their relationship to all of this, we wrapped up (clumsily) what happened to the human/cylon war, so just wrap up what kara is, find earth and be done with it.
Yikes, alright, geek out.