Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - Thylacine custom version one

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SD Fixed
05-19-04, 08:12 AM
So I've been bantering about a new frame to have since my Betaman Bianchi is ill.
Now, I've been looking at everything. I even got on the frame builder list in an attempt to learn WTF all the terms and tubings, and geometery, etc. But that's like a little bit over my head. And I pretty much gave up, because my criterea was pretty odd, and I didn't want something.. That was normalish. That am I'm bagging up to leave in like, a few days.
But I see this crypitic quote from Thyalacine "I'll have to figure a way to bend a top tube.".
And I was hooked. So, Mr. Thyalacine has crafted this image up; and I'm liking what I see. I'd attach the file, but it's too big for BF's attachment dealo.
Can someone host an image for me?
crustedfish
05-19-04, 08:30 AM
So I've been bantering about a new frame to have since my Betaman Bianchi is ill.
Now, I've been looking at everything. I even got on the frame builder list in an attempt to learn WTF all the terms and tubings, and geometery, etc. But that's like a little bit over my head. And I pretty much gave up, because my criterea was pretty odd, and I didn't want something.. That was normalish. That am I'm bagging up to leave in like, a few days.
But I see this crypitic quote from Thyalacine "I'll have to figure a way to bend a top tube.".
And I was hooked. So, Mr. Thyalacine has crafted this image up; and I'm liking what I see. I'd attach the file, but it's too big for BF's attachment dealo.
Can someone host an image for me?
email it to im@tyrodot.com ...ill try to host it..
crustedfish
05-19-04, 08:49 AM
http://www.tyrodot.com/Thy-WK-JustOneFix.jpg
cool!
what kind of tubeset is it? the bottom tube looks pretty fat.
how much will it cost?
Hey William! I tried to PM you but it seems that you have turned that feature off. Anyway I was wondering if my copy of "Riding Fixed" had been sent yet. If so, I haven't recieved it. Should I contact Mayo? I'm just wondering how these books are going to be handled in your absence I guess.
SD Fixed
05-19-04, 09:19 AM
Hey William! I tried to PM you but it seems that you have turned that feature off. Anyway I was wondering if my copy of "Riding Fixed" had been sent yet. If so, I haven't recieved it. Should I contact Mayo? I'm just wondering how these books are going to be handled in your absence I guess.
I sent a bunch out last week on Friday. Email me your snail mail and I'll send you one just to double ensure they went out.
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I can't!
familyman
05-19-04, 09:27 AM
That's a nice looking bike. I'd personally do a solid color but I know Mr. Thylacine likes his drawings all poofed up. Oh, and that is WAY too big for me, but I'd imagine it would fit you fine William, very cool. At least you're working with a builder that is willing to build a bike like you want it.
This so has me dreaming of having him build me a bike with 26" wheels, even steeper sloping top tube, tight geometry.... it would be so sweet. But I already have a lot of bikes and not a lot of money so......
pitboss
05-19-04, 09:53 AM
I can't!
WK-
I'll take it from here...you go put on your yellow raincoat and matching booties for your big trip.
MKRG
PM me and I'll give you details...cool?
Thanks!
pitboss
05-19-04, 09:56 AM
WK - awesome frame. Envious, yet poor, so you will be the first!
looking forward to the finished product
SD Fixed
05-19-04, 10:40 AM
']WK - awesome frame. Envious, yet poor, so you will be the first!
looking forward to the finished product
There's no final cost yet, but it's not outrageous.
However, I have a feeling that it will take me a while to accumulate parts after the frame arrives.
I left the booties with you BTW, they're the charlie brown ones that you love soo much. With snoopy and that bird that he likes.
You said you addapted your pedals to fit.
SD Fixed
05-19-04, 01:45 PM
http://www.tyrodot.com/Thy-WK-JustOneFix.jpg
Can't think of anything specific else except for some minor issues.
legalize_it
05-19-04, 02:24 PM
http://www.tyrodot.com/Thy-WK-JustOneFix.jpg
dead-link.... i wanna see too guys!!!
ephemeralskin
05-19-04, 03:09 PM
my 2cents: the frame design is slick. the graphic on the toptube is ugly. i prefer one color or a more classy set of stripes: parallel bands of equal width either just a few on the seat tube or maybe over the entire frame would look rad. the 'claw' stripes are 80s cheese. they look like an old ripper surfboard!
SD Fixed
05-19-04, 03:22 PM
Asthetically, I'm not to concerned with color, design, etc. It'll will look good spec out the way I'm thinking (black rims, hubs, stem, seat post.. and some powdercoated track bars or the like)..
More I'm aiming for a responsive/comfortable frame that will be limited by my ability or lack of ability to peddle fast.
Thylacine
05-19-04, 06:37 PM
Here's a smaller version of the initial design. What I've done is gone 'semi-funnybike' with this design for Will. It's a 62cm centre to top, but the entire design fits more like a 59. The handlebar position will be quite low, but not as low as it would be if it was just a rip off of an 80's TT/Funny Bike...Which you'd need someone to pry you off of with a crowbar after much longer than 30 mins in the saddle.
spinner5339
05-19-04, 08:18 PM
Thylacine, where are you based mate?
lucklust
05-19-04, 08:25 PM
the 'claw' stripes are 80s cheese.
wrong
OneTinSloth
05-19-04, 09:19 PM
/me is jealous.
Thylacine
05-19-04, 09:47 PM
I'm in Melbourne, the cycling capital of Australia :p
I gotta say, nobody has ever called the tiger stripes '80's cheese'. Thylacine = Tasmanian Tiger = Stripes. It's what makes a Thylacine a Thylacine. Anyhooo, the stripes are available without the white panel behind them, if that floats your boat. The other custom frames have a fancier top tube panel as well as a seat tube panel.
ephemeralskin
05-20-04, 12:12 AM
ehh.. i got the thylacine reference, no offense but i still say its ugly. just reminds me of a surfboard design. ever see the movie north shore? :p
but the frame seems really fun and i am eager to see a pic of the final result! :)
lucklust
05-20-04, 03:07 AM
i still say its ugly.
still wrong
Moonshot
05-20-04, 07:16 AM
The graphics are understated, which is what I like in a bike. Overstated graphics like you often find on "team" bike frames are ugly.
Cynikal
05-20-04, 08:00 AM
Thylacine, do you build the forks too?
SD Fixed
05-20-04, 08:51 AM
but the frame seems really fun and i am eager to see a pic of the final result! :)
I am too. But, right now I pay for the frame. And I'm working on deciding hubs, wheels, BB, cranks, etc.
So far, I'm thinking: CXP 33's, or velocity deep V's. Not for the go fast, but for the strenght that a areo wheel will put in. I know some will shudder, but I'm not gonna spring for Phil wood hubs. Tooooo much dinero for those. But I'll get something decent, with sealed bearings, that's for sHure. I'd like to get black rims, but I'm leaning towards mavics, which don't come in black.
I am having trouble sorting out cranks. Sugino with a Zen ring would be nice, but holy **** are they costly. I'd like to get some sort of black cranks that are pretty stiff, but the only one's I've found are the Truativ, and I've read they suck.
Handle bars: a toss between track bars, or some (eek) profile aero bars, with out too much of a drop.
OneTinSloth
05-20-04, 11:18 AM
sounds like a pretty nice setup. i would like to suggest that you re-consider phils, though. they are expensive, but well worth it. or you could go with some suzue NJS hubs. do NOT get the suzue sealed bearing hubs. if you're not going to have to deal with snow and tons of rain and salty/sandy roads, you'd probably be fine with loose-ball hubs.
the normal sugino75 crank and ring are pretty decent. the zen ring IS very nice looking, but i'm not sure that there's much difference...
eh, i dunno. i gotta get ready for workage right now.
bombusben
05-20-04, 11:55 AM
Hub advise depends who you ask I guess. My 2 cent-
I've had suzue promax sealed bearing hubs for a little over 2 years without problem. Sure, they aren't as nice as Phil's but they cost less than half as much.
Personally, I'd avoid loose ball hubs on the road. Dura-ace, Suzue NJS etc are very nice and smooth, but one more thing you have to wonder about when you're riding in the elements. Wisconsin has its share of crappy days. I'd rather not have to think twice about taking my bike out because of the weather.
I am too. But, right now I pay for the frame. And I'm working on deciding hubs, wheels, BB, cranks, etc.
So far, I'm thinking: CXP 33's, or velocity deep V's. Not for the go fast, but for the strenght that a areo wheel will put in. I know some will shudder, but I'm not gonna spring for Phil wood hubs. Tooooo much dinero for those. But I'll get something decent, with sealed bearings, that's for sHure. I'd like to get black rims, but I'm leaning towards mavics, which don't come in black.
I am having trouble sorting out cranks. Sugino with a Zen ring would be nice, but holy **** are they costly. I'd like to get some sort of black cranks that are pretty stiff, but the only one's I've found are the Truativ, and I've read they suck.
Handle bars: a toss between track bars, or some (eek) profile aero bars, with out too much of a drop.
William,
I have Velocity Deep-Vees on one bike and Fusions on the other....both black. They've held up well for me. Besides, Australian Rims for an Australian frame is cool too. As for cranks, I like my Sugino 75s. If you pass on the Zen ring and get a Salsa, you'll save some money. At the other end of the spectrum (cheap) Bulletproof has a black crankset. My friend Al (270lbs) has been riding them for quite awhile and is happy.
For bars I use the Profile Stokers; as plain as a bullhorn can be with no drop.
JIm
Thylacine
05-20-04, 09:14 PM
Cynikal - Yes, I do forks. Any rake, any size, any wheel size, any brake options, any colour as long as it's black, and any price over US$199. Custom powdercoat? Always a good thing.
Hrmmm....parts.
Wheels? Mavic CXP33 black 32h cross3, spokes - DT, silver, Hubs - Pauls High Flange. I get deals on Paul's, he's a top bloke. Actually he does complete wheels now so I mught just be able to get him to send you a set direct.
Cranks? I have no idea. Truvativs are fine - just don't let them come loose. Front ring? It has to be a Boone Titanium :D Bars? MUST BE BULLHORNS.
familyman
05-21-04, 07:47 PM
Damn you guys. Now all I can think about is having good ol' Thylacine build me a bike. I even admitted to my wife that I was thinking about it. I think I'd have to wait until tax time NEXT year but maybe... just maybe....
After all, everybody needs two funny bikes, no?
Definately keep us updated on this project, the cooler it is, the more likely I'm going to be sporting those silly tiger stripes on a bike in the future.
Damn you both.
Thylacine
05-22-04, 12:37 AM
Well, I never, ever do anything that isn't cool.....so.....better start saving ;)
skitbraviking
05-22-04, 08:34 PM
Yea, this seems pure Aussie... My Krumpler has a similar indigenous-influenced style. It's what it is.
Having said this: I also think the seat tube is at quite an angle. For what reason?
Thylacine
05-23-04, 07:28 PM
Um, it says 73º on the drawing. You reckon that's too steep or too shallow or what?
It's steeper than I'd normally do, but from the feedback that Will gave me, I'd figure we'd skew the design to have a very slight bias towards out of the saddle efforts, but still be comfortable enough to ride for fairly longer than regular commuting distances.
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