Cyclocross - Cyclocross vs. 29er vs. Full suspention 26er

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Raffi
04-11-09, 05:29 PM
Hi Guys, Yes I've researched it, and have found lots of info, but not for my use. I won't be racing or commuting with it. I have a hot trek 520 for my communting and road needs. I bought an extra wheel set and cyclocross tire wheel set to go up the trails. I finally slapped them on this week and huffed and puffed my way up the mountain across from my house. Gearing is all wrong!
When I ride a mountain bike, I usually feel like the crank and wheels are way to small. I had a fully MTB about four years ago and hated it in the end. So much work lost in bouncing around, and heavy. I had three other hardtails since. a merida (german, not good or bad), A hardtail Giant piece of crap, that seemed only slow on the road and even worse on the trail, and a diamond back rigid in 91 that rocked every thing I rode on. I blew everyone I rode with away with that bike. Then it was stolen.
So here I am in Germany. Everyone is riding expensive full suspensions down the road, yes they get up the mountain, where the worst of trails are fully traveled and might have worn to roots and lots of little rocks. Most of the time we're taking pavement and packed road when MTBing here.
I'll post this in MTB and Cyclocross threads. I've been on the side of a cyclocross or a rigid 29, but all the germans are telling me I'm crazy to not go full suspension. I don't want to race, be the best or fastest, but have fun. I do love speed, on the road and even more on the trail, that's why I was thinking cyclocross or even a make-shift cyclo. I've been eyeing a GT KARAKORAM 29er hard tail on ebay germany, but I think it might weigh 30 or 40 pounds? I would consider then a drop bar. Longer crank? I also have an op for a cannndale alu hardtail for almost nothing. I love the idea of having a cyclocross for speed, but I don't want to shake my teeth out down the rocky roads either.
What do you all think? let's think this through!


acorn_user
04-11-09, 07:42 PM
I think a cross bike would probably beat you to a pulp. If you are worried about bouncing around, maybe you could split the difference and get a steel framed hardtail from Orange.

dwr1961
04-11-09, 09:00 PM
Get a 29'er hardtail with a front suspension lockout.

Problem solved.


droptop
04-12-09, 03:33 PM
29er. i made my own cyclocross bike, but its mostly for fire trails and LIGHT off roading. anything with serious obstacles isn't on my typical rides- if you want off road, go with a 29er. i have a friend with one (redline 440) and he can ride up the 5 stair outside my apartment, running big apple tires for the street. he got his less than $500, and its a nice 1x8 setup.

flargle
04-13-09, 02:04 PM
Salsa Dos Niner

One inch of pivotless travel in the rear + Reba fork + 29-inch tires = The Golden Mean of Cross-Country Riding.

That, or a hardtail 29er.

dwr1961
04-13-09, 02:06 PM
Salsa Dos Niner

One inch of pivotless travel in the rear + Reba fork + 29-inch tires = The Golden Mean of Cross-Country Riding.

That, or a hardtail 29er.

Now THAT's a nice bike!

seat_boy
04-13-09, 04:44 PM
I like mine :)

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y105/seat_boy/IMG_4395.jpg

A hardtail 29er makes a great all around bike for the type of riding described. And a softtail is even nicer!

flargle
04-13-09, 09:29 PM
That is a sweet-ass bike. How do you feel about 1x9? If I were building with scratch I think I would hedge my bets with 2x9.

isotopesope
04-14-09, 09:55 AM
that is indeed a sweet *** bike. what handlebars are those?

seat_boy
04-14-09, 04:32 PM
I like the 1x9 quite a bit. The trails I ride are fairly flat, so I don't miss the small ring at all. The 32x11 seems a bit small, but it works out to 84 gear inches with 29er tires. That's pretty tough to spin out with knobby tires.

Also, with the single front ring, it's pretty easy to switch the bike back and forth to single speed mode.

The handlebars are Salsa Moto Ace 17 degree sweepers (http://www.salsacycles.com/handlebars_mtn.html). They're quite nice, a good compromise between Mary type bars and traditional flat bars. With so much sweep, though, I have to run quite a long stem (130mm or so). Also, the bar ends in the picture weren't long enough--they didn't really let me stretch out. I've since replaced them with some longer, hooked models.

Thanks for the compliments!

isotopesope
04-14-09, 05:10 PM
thanks for the link! i've never really looked at salsa's mountain bars. lately i've been feeling like i would enjoy more sweep than the 8 degrees of my easton monkeylite bars.

i've also loosely been toying with the idea of setting up my 29er as a 1x9 and trying swapping back and forth between single speed and gears as the mood strikes me. my 24:15 is sweet for the trails here, but sometimes a bummer when tired and riding home.