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yellowjeep
04-19-09, 10:28 PM
I know this isn't something you normally see on the MTB forum of BF but I couldn't deprive you all of this ****.

Danny Mac.
http://freecaster.tv/bmx/1007689/danny-mac-april-2009

Discuss


Zephyr11
04-19-09, 10:33 PM
Yeah, that just got posted in the General forum. Absolutely insane. I've never seen a trials video like that...all the other ones I've ever seen have a lot more trackstanding. It's almost like watching a parkour video on bikes. Incredible.

jjbod1
04-19-09, 11:12 PM
Speechless!!!!:cheers:


cyclezen
04-19-09, 11:43 PM
Incredible!
I luv it!
scary!

kmart
04-20-09, 12:36 AM
Those wheels must be absolutely bulletproof. And the fork.

Now I feel like a wimp for just buying 160mm travel for mostly XC riding...

DaJMasta
04-20-09, 12:44 AM
The comments there sum it up pretty well, absolutely amazing.


I wish i had those kinds of skills, it must be a lot of fun to have those abilities and just be able to do almost anything you want on a bike.... the hardware really is bulletproof though, he was doing as much as he could to absorb the impacts, but that stuff still bore the brunt of all those drops.

kmart
04-20-09, 12:46 AM
Yeah that last drop from the bridge. That was like 18 feet, all absorbed by the rear wheel.

sirtigersalot
04-20-09, 12:57 AM
always stunns me what humans can do (and survive) when he umps off some of those 12+ to flat drops (like off the building) i just don't understand how you do that and not even blow a tire w/o any suspension

and that flip off the tree was redic

also those didn't look like the 20" wheels i was expecting but not big enough for 26, was he riding a 24?

yellowjeep
04-20-09, 01:29 AM
also those didn't look like the 20" wheels i was expecting but not big enough for 26, was he riding a 24?

Good eye.

http://www.inspiredbicycles.com/products.php?product=1&product_page=1

And yes the back flip off the tree was completely bonkers

yellowjeep
04-20-09, 01:34 AM
Seriously this guy has the sickest control I have ever seen, my mind might be blown. His name is very very fitting Danny MacaSKILL.

Here is another one
http://www.vimeo.com/1831788

Wait for end.

And another:
Disclaimer music is NSFW so turn it down.
http://www.vimeo.com/2627207

Pocko
04-20-09, 04:03 AM
:D loved it! Thanks yellowjeep.

That fourplay trials frame is interesting... it's got an MTB style dropout and chain tensioner (so at first I thought it was an SS)... and it also has a saddle (which made me think it was a 24" BMX).

I've seen some similar tricks in BMX, but this Danny Mac does them BIG! WOW!



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daven1986
04-20-09, 04:28 AM
very cool :)

jgedwa
04-20-09, 07:43 AM
Stunning!

I know nothing about trials bikes; is that thing a ss? Or is it some kind of odd kick-back hub?

jim

yellowjeep
04-20-09, 08:19 AM
Single speed AFAIK. Though in a trials competition I think you have to be running at least 6 gears in the back.

jgedwa
04-20-09, 08:27 AM
But isn't he somehow pedaling the bike backwards? I am not sure exactly what a kick-back hub is, but I gather it functions like a ss in that it allows you to coast, but also has pawls that engage when you pedal backward.

He is my new hero, btw.

jim

yellowjeep
04-20-09, 08:33 AM
Can you give us a quick run down of your current bike spec?

Inspired Fourplay frame, Easton carbon bars, Middleburn cranks, Hope Pro2 hubs, Atom Lab rear rim, Maxxis Holy/High Roller, Avid Juicy 5 front brake, Maguras HS33 with Rock Pad blue rear brake

I think what you are seeing is just him rolling backward and letting the pedals carry his feet over.

Glynis27
04-20-09, 12:02 PM
I had time to see the video, but it has been taken down already. Bummer, I always send the new videos to my friend, and he didn't get to see this one.

Out of all the segments of cycling, street trials is by far my favorite. I would do anything to ride like that.

yellowjeep
04-20-09, 12:10 PM
Found another link and edited the top post

Glynis27
04-20-09, 12:28 PM
Found a new, good link for anyone that missed it.

http://freecaster.tv/bmx/1007689/danny-mac-april-2009

^efb

DaJMasta
04-20-09, 01:57 PM
But isn't he somehow pedaling the bike backwards? I am not sure exactly what a kick-back hub is, but I gather it functions like a ss in that it allows you to coast, but also has pawls that engage when you pedal backward.

He is my new hero, btw.

jim

It's gotta be that, he wouldn't get the unicycle-like control of the rear wheel without it, that's a fanceh piece of hub tech though.

joetronic
04-20-09, 02:01 PM
Thats some sick ****. Street trials is some much more fun to watch then comp trials. More "action" less track standing. Don't get me wrong, those comp guys are skill, but street is like a cross between urban assault, bmx, ad trials all in one.

yellowjeep
04-20-09, 02:01 PM
Pretty sure its just a hope pro2.

Ka_Jun
04-20-09, 02:17 PM
Wow...words are insufficient.

Pocko
04-20-09, 02:39 PM
Besides looking cool, I'm pretty sure pedaling backwards doesn't mean he's using a special hub to "drive" the bike backwards. Although it looks that way, the backward movement is actually leftover momentum and it will gradually slow down. They have to back pedal so as not to engage the hub ratchet and stall the trick. Hub ratchets only free-wheel forwards but not backwards.

My son's been learning the trick for months and I've seen him doing it down the drive, he can only manage to balance one or two backpedals then the bike is quickly turned to go forward again. Very hard to do.

We were just talking about this subject last weekend - why some "park" BMX guys prefer not to use super high quality racing hubs (like Chris King) with a lot of ratchet teeth with near zero-lag to engage. Some BMXers like a bit of ratchet lag so they don't accidentally "nudge" the ratchet forward during the trick.

Danny Mac's hub is in all likelihood a conventional hub.


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born2bahick
04-20-09, 05:55 PM
Chelboed before he went to the big wheels.
Ed's twinney four (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gs10O64wabM)

yellowjeep
04-20-09, 06:03 PM
So this is all over every bike forum I frequent. Here RM and MTBR. The Danny Mac vid is the 3rd most viewed on youtube today. Right behind Miss America clips. I don't know what is more fun to watch.

Pocko
04-20-09, 07:06 PM
^ Don't you know? Women always come second to bikes!

:D

yellowjeep
04-20-09, 07:29 PM
Haha you have no idea how may times my girlfriend has accused me of that.

ed
04-20-09, 08:19 PM
Chelboed before he went to the big wheels.
In my wettest of dreams



Ed's twinney four
I re-wound and re-played that bunnyhop to endo-stall/crank-spin like 4 times...then later on, there was one with a 180 bunnyhop. That was flippin' schwizzle!!

kmart
04-20-09, 08:27 PM
Here's another awesome trials video. These guys just make it look so easy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVE0-_VHbUc

Scratcher33
04-20-09, 08:52 PM
Haha you have no idea how may times my girlfriend has accused me of that.

I hear it most summer days

Pocko
04-20-09, 08:54 PM
Danny Mac doesn't have wet dreams... he IS the wet dream!






:lol:

Pocko
04-20-09, 09:23 PM
^ WAIT A MINUTE!!! That almost sounds like a Chuck Norris joke! Could it be... could it really be?!??

Many years ago there were rumors that Chuck had an affair with Xena the Warrior Princess and she bore him a mutant son... and only time will tell if the rumor was true.

Could it be... that Danny Mac... is indeed Chuck Norris son?!??

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cyclezen
04-20-09, 10:58 PM
Besides looking cool, I'm pretty sure pedaling backwards doesn't mean he's using a special hub to "drive" the bike backwards. Although it looks that way, the backward movement is actually leftover momentum and it will gradually slow down.
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don;t know... there are a few other vids of Danny Mac where he is obviously pedaling backward, on a level surface, from a standstill. Not sayin it may not be possible to generate abckward momentum from a standstill, and he's likely gonna be the one to do it, smoothly...
still, it would seem that there's some way to pedal backward on those machines
gonna have to 'lurk' on that trials forum... way too cool stuff to miss out...

Pocko
04-20-09, 11:18 PM
^ Fair enough, if there's something new out there, lets find out. Watch the chain at the bottom of the chainstay. If the crank is driving the bike backwards, the chain at the bottom should stiffen and the chain at the top should slacken.

Also check if he's using the front wheel and "fish-tailing" it to rhythmically propel the bike backwards... which is what the BMX boys do. They can also prolong forward coasting this way indefinitely... kinda like a skateboard snakey-wobble.

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S.D.XC
04-21-09, 06:07 AM
^kinda like a skateboard snakey-wobble.

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or also known as 'tic tac'

joetronic
04-21-09, 06:54 AM
a tic tac it probably more like it. you can defiantly see him backpedal a lot when setting himself up. But he is riding different bikes. So... Never mind, I have no idea

cyclezen
04-21-09, 10:27 PM
^ Fair enough, if there's something new out there, lets find out.
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ok, so I took another look at this vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbJ1sseQVbY

chek out at about 2:20 - no Tic-Tac, front wheel off ground. seems level and starts from a full stall...
hard to see details on the bike
so I don know... it looks like pedalin backwards...
chek it out

sirtigersalot
04-22-09, 02:09 AM
i think what he does is load the pedals a tiny bit to slow down backwards momentum, like stopping on a fixie, but has to keep pedaling backwards to allow the rear wheel to move backwards. so it looks like pedaling backwards

especially since its sponsered by hope...

ed
04-22-09, 06:30 AM
He pedals backward b/c his momentum is backward. If he didn't pedal...he'd just stop b/c the pedals go backward when the bike goes backward. The shots where he does a reverse wheelie are actually sloped downhill.

deburn
04-22-09, 07:03 AM
absolutely unfrigginbelievable

Pocko
04-22-09, 02:03 PM
ok, so I took another look at this vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbJ1sseQVbY

chek out at about 2:20 - no Tic-Tac, front wheel off ground. seems level and starts from a full stall...
hard to see details on the bike
so I don know... it looks like pedalin backwards...
chek it out

Yes no tictac but not from a full stall, he kinda pushed-off the wall and used his upper body to create the momentum. Have a look at the very end when he pedals forward again, and you'll notice that when he stopped pedaling the bike continues to freewheel forward.

Also have a look at an earlier piece when he bunny hops up and over a flight of stairs and lands backwards (1:01). Again he has to pedal backwards so as not to stall the bike. Then watch when he comes back down again, that hub is a free-wheeling hub. It's a normal hub... and yes it looks like pedaling backwards which is part of the glamor of that trick.

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Pocko
04-22-09, 07:12 PM
I normally wouldn't put a link like this here, but I think it's still within context of this thread. This short clip shows that backpedaling is actually not uncommon in this genre. As with any normal freewheeling hub, you have to back pedal when the bike travels backwards otherwise you stall. Rider here is Zack Gerber, and he backpedals when he lands backwards.

I gotta give credit to these guys, as they have been the proponents of "absolutely unfrigginbelievable" style of riding for many years. Check out Zack's back-flip-360-tail-whip combo (00:33) and front-flip jump (00:56) that's front flip, not back flip in case it's not something you've seen before.

Enjoy...
http://bmx.transworld.net/2009/04/11/front-flips-on-tiny-banks/



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ProFail
04-22-09, 07:43 PM
Every sport a guy or two that constantly push the limits.

However, Danny Macaskill is literally redefining the way you can ride a bike. I've seen great trials riders before, but Danny always finds new and creative ways to ride on two wheels. Bravo.

ed
04-22-09, 07:59 PM
Yes no tictac but not from a full stall, he kinda pushed-off the wall and used his upper body to create the momentum. Have a look at the very end when he pedals forward again, and you'll notice that when he stopped pedaling the bike continues to freewheel forward.

Also have a look at an earlier piece when he bunny hops up and over a flight of stairs and lands backwards (1:01). Again he has to pedal backwards so as not to stall the bike. Then watch when he comes back down again, that hub is a free-wheeling hub. It's a normal hub... and yes it looks like pedaling backwards which is part of the glamor of that trick.

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+1...he's using upper body momentum. He doesn't need to push off a wall though. (but I agree that he may have in that case) You can lock the front brake...lean forward...push your upper torso backward enough to get the body/bike moving backward as long as you backpedal enough to keep from engaging the pawls and killing the momentum with the cranks.

ed
04-22-09, 08:03 PM
I normally wouldn't put a link like this here, but I think it's still within context of this thread. This short clip shows that backpedaling is actually not uncommon in this genre. As with any normal freewheeling hub, you have to back pedal when the bike travels backwards otherwise you stall. Rider here is Zack Gerber, and he backpedals when he lands backwards.

I gotta give credit to these guys, as they have been the proponents of "absolutely unfrigginbelievable" style of riding for many years. Check out Zack's back-flip-360-tail-whip combo (00:33) and front-flip jump (00:56) that's front flip, not back flip in case it's not something you've seen before.

Enjoy...
http://bmx.transworld.net/2009/04/11/front-flips-on-tiny-banks/



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I've been waiting to see a front flip low like that:thumb::thumb: There's no reason a MTB'er can't eventually come up with a front flip on some odd terrain like a drop. As "hella crA-Z" as 8-9" rotor'd hydraulic brakes are...you could lock the brake on the way over to increase the velocity of the rotation...mmm...maybe.:D

Pocko
04-22-09, 08:50 PM
^ It's only a matter of time before someone steps up to the plate! Can't wait to see a front flip on a MTB... :)



+1...he's using upper body momentum. He doesn't need to push off a wall though. (but I agree that he may have in that case) You can lock the front brake...lean forward...push your upper torso backward enough to get the body/bike moving backward as long as you backpedal enough to keep from engaging the pawls and killing the momentum with the cranks.

Funny thing is, we've been so busy looking at the backpedal that we've actually missed the whole point of that trick and the most incredible part - which is the no-footer 360-tail-whip starting from stationary rear-wheel-stand onto bunny-hop! Think about it for a moment...

I'm telling you... this Danny Mac is Chuck Norris' son! :lol:



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uke
04-22-09, 10:42 PM
Ha, I came here to post this after viewing it on another forum. Absolutely amazing stuff.

J_Dada
04-24-09, 02:31 PM
bump for most ridiculous bike video ever.

Pocko
05-07-09, 04:23 AM
I've been waiting to see a front flip low like that:thumb::thumb: There's no reason a MTB'er can't eventually come up with a front flip on some odd terrain like a drop. As "hella crA-Z" as 8-9" rotor'd hydraulic brakes are...you could lock the brake on the way over to increase the velocity of the rotation...mmm...maybe.:D

I don't even know what to say... :twitchy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uRyc_OWpig