Northern California - How about a mass BF start at the Wine Country Century?

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RoboCheme
04-20-09, 08:36 PM
Would a 7:30 start be early enough? I've never done this ride - where should we meet?

Who's in and what's your preferred start time?

Based on the responses so far, let's plan on leaving at 7:15 SHARP!! Let's meet to the right of the registration tent.

In:
Beaker
SesameCrunch with his 705
Taxi
Spingineer
Mtnwalker
gpelpel
BlastRadius ?
MarkoPolo
Roguedog (maybe)
trinity000
kb5ql


Beaker
04-20-09, 08:38 PM
I'm in, but may well be driving up the day of. 7:30 could be doable.

SesameCrunch
04-20-09, 08:48 PM
I'm game, and flexible on the details.


MyLilPony
04-20-09, 08:59 PM
0-dark-hundred. You'll all be blowing past us anyway.

EDIT: Crap. Used Tricia's computer as my battery is dead. Don't bust me, OK?
--cccorlew

taxi777
04-20-09, 09:25 PM
Sounds good!

Beaker
04-20-09, 09:34 PM
Curtis, are there any other times when you find yourself masquerading as your wife?

spingineer
04-20-09, 09:42 PM
Oh boy, here we go again ... if we do 7:30, it has to be a hard 7:30 ... remember what happened last year? I think we targeted 7 am and we didn't leave till about 7:30 or even later.

My personal preference is 7 am, but I'd rather leave as a whole group.

mtnwalker
04-20-09, 10:57 PM
Anytime between 7 - 7:30 am is fine by me. See you guys there.

BTW, will the group be meeting near the registration tent like last year?

RoboCheme
04-20-09, 11:04 PM
Anytime between 7 - 7:30 am is fine by me. See you guys there.

BTW, will the group be meeting near the registration tent like last year?

Great. Could you describe the meeting place (e.g. left of the registration tent) and I'll put it in the original post?

Looks like we should push off at 7:30 SHARP

mtnwalker
04-20-09, 11:46 PM
Great. Could you describe the meeting place (e.g. left of the registration tent) and I'll put it in the original post?

Looks like we should push off at 7:30 SHARP

I actually saw Ron, Henry and Ramon inside the tent. But we hang around in front of the entrance of the tent where the bike racks were waiting for others to show up.

gpelpel
04-20-09, 11:48 PM
Last year we started at 7:04 am and ended at 5:29 pm so I would also prefer a 7 am start. I will drive the morning of the event.

I will join the BF Mass Start.

ROJA
04-21-09, 07:33 AM
I was very excited about this ride, but I am not going to risk riding this far and injuring my knees even worse. So that means I will need to sell my registration. Let me know if you want it (and please check what is required to complete the transfer). [EDIT: Tohso will be taking my spot. Ride like the wind, buddy!]

Have a great ride everyone and I hope to join another century sometime soon.

Thanks.

SesameCrunch
04-21-09, 07:45 AM
Last year we started at 7:04 am and ended at 5:29 pm so I would also prefer a 7 am start. I will drive the morning of the event.

I will join the BF Mass Start.

Wow! 10 and a half hours for a century with 3000 ft of climbing? Was it mostly long social stops? It surely wasn't the course.

spingineer
04-21-09, 10:42 AM
I'm using the Wine Country Double Metric as my training for Davis Double. With that in mind, I am going to try to get in as many miles as I can possibly get in, which may mean I may get split up from the group. I really do want to get more than a 100 mile ride in before doing the Double.

cccorlew
04-21-09, 12:27 PM
Last year we rode, but we did a Pete special route/add on/detour. We also stopped by his hotel to pick up Kathy. I think we did 112 or 115 or something, and spent the end into a huge headwind. It did take forever. 4472 climbing.

http://home.comcast.net/%7Ecccorlew/hosting/wine-century.png

RoboCheme
04-21-09, 12:44 PM
Last year we started at 7:04 am and ended at 5:29 pm so I would also prefer a 7 am start. I will drive the morning of the event.

I will join the BF Mass Start.

Hmmm. I'm doing the 100M and it'll be my first. I was planning on 8.5 hours for total ride and rest time. Is that too optimistic? Anyone else just doing the 100M?

Beaker
04-21-09, 01:39 PM
Hey Cliff - I'm doing the 100M as well. I'd imagine you'd be fine with your estimate, based on my vast experience of riding exactly one century :rolleyes:. I haven't found a profile of the route, but 3000ft over 100miles doesn't sound like there's much climbing at all. Don't know if Georges is referring to the 200km route, or the Curtis/Pete detour above?

RoboCheme
04-21-09, 01:43 PM
Hey Cliff - I'm doing the 100M as well. I'd imagine you'd be fine with your estimate, based on my vast experience of riding exactly one century :rolleyes:. I haven't found a profile of the route, but 3000ft over 100miles doesn't sound like there's much climbing at all. Don't know if Georges is referring to the 200km route, or the Curtis/Pete detour above?

Let's start together and I can wheelsuck the whole way!! Now, go back to your chemicals.

BlastRadius
04-21-09, 01:49 PM
From what I recall, we lingered at the rest stops much too long last year for the double metric.

gpelpel
04-21-09, 03:31 PM
Last year we rode, but we did a Pete special route/add on/detour. We also stopped by his hotel to pick up Kathy. I think we did 112 or 115 or something, and spent the end into a huge headwind. It did take forever. 4472 climbing.

Yes, it took forever; riding time was about 7h30. Very long rest stops (3h), especially the lunch stop and the hotel stop. When I loaded my Garmin data in the computer I was surprised it registered a 28% grade. I was even more surprised this grade was in the town of Windsor which is flat as a pancake. It turned out I had the Garmin with me when we took the elevator to get to Kathy's room.

The shortcut from the lunch stop to the end was straight as an arrow but that headwind was a killer. This year I will take the regular route with the climbs, nothing is worse than headwinds.

Beaker
04-21-09, 08:11 PM
Cliff are you driving up? I know that Georges is. If you guys think you can make a 7am start, I'm sure I can do it too.

Beaker
04-21-09, 08:34 PM
All this talk about time lost at rest stops is really hitting home - I was surprised what time I rolled in at the Primavera. I would have finished the ride at ~1:25pm if I had zero stops, but instead rolled in just ~2hrs later. Throw in Pete's flat and hanging out on Calaveras once or twice and I guess it all added up.

RoboCheme
04-21-09, 09:49 PM
Cliff are you driving up? I know that Georges is. If you guys think you can make a 7am start, I'm sure I can do it too.

No, we've got a hotel room.

I sense a preference for starting earlier, so I'll be a consensus builder and move the start to 7:15 SHARP.

spingineer
04-21-09, 09:54 PM
I looked at my motionbased data, and averaged 10 minutes per rest stop, and 30 minutes at lunch.

Beaker
04-21-09, 10:10 PM
I can think of a couple of extra times I stopped out there -- what was your total riding time, Ron?

taxi777
04-21-09, 10:10 PM
When I loaded my Garmin data in the computer I was surprised it registered a 28% grade. I was even more surprised this grade was in the town of Windsor which is flat as a pancake. It turned out I had the Garmin with me when we took the elevator to get to Kathy's room..

..............:lol:

MarkoPolo
04-22-09, 12:19 AM
Hey Cliff - I'm doing the 100M as well. I'd imagine you'd be fine with your estimate, based on my vast experience of riding exactly one century :rolleyes:. I haven't found a profile of the route, but 3000ft over 100miles doesn't sound like there's much climbing at all. Don't know if Georges is referring to the 200km route, or the Curtis/Pete detour above?

I'm also planning on the 100 miler. BigBossman was supposed to be my wingman, but he's bailing on me. Mind if I join up with you guys at the start?

MarkoPolo

Beaker
04-22-09, 07:43 AM
Let's start together and I can wheelsuck the whole way!! Now, go back to your chemicals.

If you deem my wheel worthy of sucking you are most welcome - it'd be good to catch up with you Cliff. I'm hoping to bring this one home closer to 6h rather than 7h moving time.

"Going back to my chemicals" :lol:


I'm also planning on the 100 miler. BigBossman was supposed to be my wingman, but he's bailing on me. Mind if I join up with you guys at the start?

MarkoPolo

Always good to meet/ride with new BFr's.

roguedog
04-22-09, 09:26 AM
I'm riding this with friends and I suspect that 7am will be too early for them. Anyway, will have to let you know as it gets closer to the day.. cuz we're such good planners that way. :)

Some of us are doing the double 100m and some of us (me) are doing 100m.

trinity000
04-24-09, 01:10 PM
I will be there... Since it is my first 100Mi ride AND i have been off the bike for a month already (crash 2 weeks + away for work 2 weeks) + only 3 days of riding on the new bike by Saturday i will opt for an early 7am start i think.

kb5ql
04-24-09, 01:32 PM
I will be there with the tandem (see sig). Hopefully we can get checked in and ready to go at 7:15. We're driving up the same day (early).

RoboCheme
04-28-09, 12:42 PM
I just wanted to bump this so that everyone is aware that we intend to push off at 7:15 SHARP. Let's meet to the right of the registration tent.

SesameCrunch
04-28-09, 01:04 PM
RoboCheme: I'm going to bail out. I have a hip injury that's still not getting better, so I'm going to take it easy.

I have a registration available for anyone that wants it for face value.

uspspro
04-28-09, 01:10 PM
For everyone doing the 100 mile route.

Please do yourselves a favor and start with the 200k route for the Coleman Valley section, then switch back to the 100 mile route.

You will probably end up with 105 miles or something like that, but it's well worth it. Descending that narrow road toward the Pacific Ocean was the best part of the ride BY FAR.

Ygduf
04-28-09, 04:05 PM
I took Alan's registration, so I'm IN for the 100m. I will be driving up for day-of registration. Anyone who's done this before, what are my odds of getting through the line to be ready for a 7:15 start? I'd love to ride with the group.

Also, throwing this out, if anyone from Peninsula or South bay is headed up, I'd much rather split costs and carpool than drive all the way up there alone. Or if anyone has a room and wants to reduce their cost by having me sleep on the floor, please let me know. :thumb:

taxi777
04-28-09, 04:35 PM
RoboCheme: I'm going to bail out. I have a hip injury that's still not getting better, so I'm going to take it easy.

I have a registration available for anyone that wants it for face value.

Hey Alan, really sorry to hear that and I'm sure everyone else is...Hope it all works out, get better soon!

gpelpel
04-28-09, 04:41 PM
I arrived around 7 am last year and had plenty of time to be ready for the 7:15 start. Registration was very quick, although I was using a transfer from somebody else.
Get the bike ready (with proper tire inflation), prepare your bottles and put shorts, warmers, jerseys, and HRM belt on before leaving home. Keep the on-arrival to do's (shoes, jacket, food in pockets) to the minimum. Last year the early morning was very chilly, I wished I had full fingered gloves. However it got warm later.

jonathanb715
04-28-09, 04:42 PM
Hey, I'll be there but I'll be riding with some other folks. We're looking to roll by 6:30, but I'm sure our paths will cross during the day!

JB

spingineer
04-28-09, 06:26 PM
Is anyone staying over Friday night before the ride? Looks like everyone is driving the day of the ride ... not me.

1jacktripper
04-28-09, 06:39 PM
I took Alan's registration, so I'm IN for the 100m. I will be driving up for day-of registration. Anyone who's done this before, what are my odds of getting through the line to be ready for a 7:15 start? I'd love to ride with the group.

Also, throwing this out, if anyone from Peninsula or South bay is headed up, I'd much rather split costs and carpool than drive all the way up there alone. Or if anyone has a room and wants to reduce their cost by having me sleep on the floor, please let me know. :thumb:

Chris, I used a transferred registration last year also for the metric century, and it was fairly quick. If you are shooting for a 7:15 start, I would advise you to get in the line no later than 7:00.

We drove up on the day of the event, and I was pretty pooped by the time I finished, so really didn't look forward to the drive back. With that said, I'd suggest making a weekend of it: stay for one night on Sat. with your gf!

x136
04-28-09, 06:54 PM
Is anyone staying over Friday night before the ride? Looks like everyone is driving the day of the ride ... not me.Fabulous Motel 6 for me.

x136
04-28-09, 07:17 PM
For everyone doing the 100 mile route.

Please do yourselves a favor and start with the 200k route for the Coleman Valley section, then switch back to the 100 mile route.

You will probably end up with 105 miles or something like that, but it's well worth it. Descending that narrow road toward the Pacific Ocean was the best part of the ride BY FAR.Seconding this.

Do it even if you're not sure if you can make the full hundred miles. There are a few shortcuts back to the finish along the way.

trinity000
04-28-09, 07:24 PM
What avg speed do most people think they are gonna shoot for? Never done a century before and i am thinking 15? is that too much to hope for? or too slow?

Beaker
04-28-09, 07:37 PM
Hey Cliff/MarkoPolo - I'm going to be riding up with gpelpel, and am thinking of switching to/riding the 200k route with him. Depending upon whether you follow Marco's suggestion, this may not make any difference to whether we ride the first 50-60miles together anyway.

cccorlew
04-28-09, 07:40 PM
Staying Friday night. I was hoping for another BF feast!
WhatDaYaThink?

Ygduf
04-28-09, 08:37 PM
Is anyone staying over Friday night before the ride? Looks like everyone is driving the day of the ride ... not me.

Ron,

Are you staying in SF or Santa Rosa on Friday night?

Ygduf
04-28-09, 08:39 PM
Chris, I used a transferred registration last year also for the metric century, and it was fairly quick. If you are shooting for a 7:15 start, I would advise you to get in the line no later than 7:00.

We drove up on the day of the event, and I was pretty pooped by the time I finished, so really didn't look forward to the drive back. With that said, I'd suggest making a weekend of it: stay for one night on Sat. with your gf!

That doesn't work for our dogs. :/

It looks like I'll be making an epically long day of it, departing around 4:30am and returning god-knows-when. Oh well. Adventure is supposed to be tiring. :)

spingineer
04-28-09, 08:39 PM
Ron,

Are you staying in SF or Santa Rosa on Friday night?

Santa Rosa Friday and Saturday. Don't feel like driving back Saturday night. Possibility of getting a ride in Santa Rosa on Sunday? But a short one.

MarkoPolo
04-28-09, 09:10 PM
Also, throwing this out, if anyone from Peninsula or South bay is headed up, I'd much rather split costs and carpool than drive all the way up there alone. Or if anyone has a room and wants to reduce their cost by having me sleep on the floor, please let me know. :thumb:

If you are still looking for a ride/room, I'm headed up Friday from the South Bay and even have a room with an extra bed. PM me if you are interested.

So who is in charge of scheduling the pre-ride feast?

spingineer
04-28-09, 09:20 PM
If you are still looking for a ride/room, I'm headed up Friday from the South Bay and even have a room with an extra bed. PM me if you are interested.

So who is in charge of scheduling the pre-ride feast?

Pete is, although he doesn't know it yet. :roflmao2: