General Cycling Discussion - I don't get it are Deore and XT......

the same thing or am I missing something ?
http://www.123bikes.com/details.php?startpage=bikes&item_id=210

Shimano makes three "levels" of Deore:

Deore
Deore LX
Deore XT

There is also an "XTR", but Shimano doesn't put Deore in the name.

See info here: http://bike.shimano.com/mtb/index.asp

I have an MTB with Deore shifters, derailers, and hubs.

A road touring bike with Deore LX shifters, rear derailers, hubs and crank.

And I will soon have a road sport type of bike where I will have the road triple crank swapped out for a Deore crank.

I think I like the Deore line :)

Thank you so much for the link and explanation.

Shimano makes three "levels" of Deore:

Deore
Deore LX
Deore XT

There is also an "XTR", but Shimano doesn't put Deore in the name.

See info here: http://bike.shimano.com/mtb/index.asp

I have an MTB with Deore shifters, derailers, and hubs.

A road touring bike with Deore LX shifters, rear derailers, hubs and crank.

And I will soon have a road sport type of bike where I will have the road triple crank swapped out for a Deore crank.

I think I like the Deore line :)

Would these be analagous to:

105
Ultegra
Dura Ace

?

More like Tiagra, 105 and Ultegra. XTR is the Dura Ace of the MTB world, unless you torture stuff to death, in which case Saint is your grouppo of choice.

Excellent. Thanks for the info. I think I may be in the market for a used mtb and really didn't know what to look for.

When in doubt, look at the actual numerical designation. Note that names like Deore, DeoreLX, DeoreXT and XTR (as well as any of Shimano's components) can encompass a range of individual items. For instance, the FD-M952 XTR front derailleur is markedly different from the FD-M953 XTR front derailleur even though they're both from the same era/generation and are both associated with the XTR group. You can also generally tell what level of component are associated to what group based on their numerical designation. For instance, DeoreXT is generally M75x (last generation, pre-dualcontrol) or M76x (current generation) and Deore is generally M51x or M52x... Note that an entire group is not totally revamped all the time. Sometimes a complete group will have a mix of new and previous generation designs. You have to go by the individual components' model designation.

what is saint? i can't find it on that link.

what is saint? i can't find it on that link.

Shimano is guilty of horrible website maintenance (at least for their USA website). They seem to take the Michigan dept. of transportation attitude to road maintenance... Got a pothole? Just plop some tar on top and let the cars run it over until it's smooth. Unfortunately, you just end up caking a lot of cars with sticky nasty tar and the pothole is still there. At anyrate, try this link instead (http://www.ridesaint.com/). Saint was meant for the freeride market... supposedly beefier but heavier components with technology that's trickled down from XTR (which is meant more for the racing XC market). There's some stuff in Saint that's exclusive to it however such as hub-mounted rear derailleur.

Shimano's website design team needs to be fired.

Excellent. Thanks for the info. I think I may be in the market for a used mtb and really didn't know what to look for.
Look for SRAM...jeez...Shimano-ha!

']Look for SRAM...jeez...Shimano-ha!

sram doesn't make front deraileurs. :(