Classic and Vintage Bicycles: What's it Worth? Appraisals and Inquiries - 1988ish Bianchi Sport SX in Celeste color

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treebound
05-14-09, 08:32 PM
I put this in this subsection since this is more of a valuation type of question instead of a look what I got posting, but it works as a look what I got post too :D

I recently picked up a Bianchi Sport SX 12 speed. Per another valuation thread I assume it is a 1988 model since it has the 1986-1987 decal between the shifter levers. And I sure wish this bike fit me because it sure does ride nice, but even with the seat raised and slid as far back on the rails it is just too short, and I don't want to go with a setback seatpost and long stem just to get it to sort of fit.

So with that said I've got a few questions, especially for you Bianchi experts out there.
I was going to keep it untouched and in original condition since I'm fairly sure I got it from the original owner who just parked it in his garage for several years when raising a family became a higher priority. But earlier today one of the tires decided to blow out while it was just sitting in the garage, sounded like a pistol going off. I had pumped them up fairly firm yesterday when I took it out for a lap around the block. So there went the original condition idea and off came the tires.

Issues with the bike are as follows:
Tires are aged and shot.
There is a plastic bearing cap on the headtube that looks cracked from age/ozone.
Some areas of the celeste colored cable housings are cracking and worn in places and also has a couple of bent areas where it should really be trimmed back some.
Rim sidewalls are brake worn with the dark ozidation or coloring is worn through (at least the previous owner put some good miles on the bike before parking it).
Handlebar tape looks like the previous owner replaced it at least once and appears to have gone with a race styled short wrap.

Looking for recommendations on the following items:
Tires, should I spring for a nice set of tires, or go budget, or leave it with bare rims for now. What I'm thinking of doing is slipping on a set of Serfas or Conti tires just to keep it ridable. Normally I'd stick an inexpensive pair of Kenda's on it, but for this bike I don't think those will do. Help.

Headset bearing cap/cup: should I just leave it as is since it is the original equipment, or should I swap it out with something else which would make the bike non-original. I know in some other hobbies (like certain old cars) anything not correct or original is considered a sin. Help.

Cable housings: I have no idea if celeste colored cable housing is available. I'm not sure about using black housing on this bike. Nor am I sure about just leaving the weathered and aged housing on it. I can probably just install new cables with a generous amount of oil. Help.

Rims: I'm just going to clean them some and see how well they clean up.

Handlebar tape: wondering if I should just leave it as is, or just wrap some blue or black or white tape on the bars, or unwrap and clean the handlebars and let the new owner pick their own.

Anything I've missed feel free to give your comments.

Measurements are as follows:
Seat tube is about 52cm ctc, or 54cm ctt;
Top tube is about 53cm;
Standover clearance is about 31";
Rear dropout spacing is 126mm.

Oh, and the Shimano Exage brake levers have those neat little push buttons on the inner upper corners to open up the brakes for tire removal.

I'll try to keep up with any replies on this one.


treebound
05-14-09, 08:35 PM
more pics.....

I really really wish this thing fit me, oh well ....

edit: I just remembered, the right side shifter seems to have an extra click or two, almost like it could handle a 7 or 8 speed rear cluster. If I was keeping it I might experiment a bit.

edit two, pps: almost forgot to ask " what is this thing worth, in current condition, and in cleaned/greased/new-tire condition". :)
Per the other thread I'm thinking $150-$200 as it sits on bare rims, no idea if I completely go thru it and throw on a new set of tires.

I'm also wondering if there are any easy ways to clean off the brake hoods?

miamijim
05-15-09, 05:31 AM
1. Tires. Michelin Dynamic $10-ish each online. 700X23's. I use them on all my flips. Its an entry level bike, no need for $$$$$$ tires unless you like the ride quality/feel of them.
2. Headset cannot be fixed. The cracked piece is not mechanicly functional but it does act as a dust/dirt shield. Your call (I'd replace it). $15 if you do it yourself. Someone here may have a headset, it looks like a low stack height.
3. Bar tape. If it looks good leave it.
4. Cable housing. Anything cracked should be replaced. My last bianchi had Celeste housing, I replaced everythig except the short RD section with black.
5. Rim wear. No big deal.


wrk101
05-15-09, 07:28 AM
I would try to salvage as much of the Celeste housing as practical. If possible, keep the front portions Celeste, and the less noticable rear sections black (may not be possible unfortunately).

+1 Cheap decent tires are the way to go, $10 or less. Since it does not fit and you plan to sell, no one pays more for a bike because of better grade tires. I use the cheapest decent new tires I can find, and "back the truck up" when there is a good sale.

Clean the bike thoroughly, Simple Green will do wonders.

+1 Replace the headset, easy job if you have the right tools.

+1 Clean the rims. I use the white scotch brite (non-scratching). Its the least aggressive of that type of product. Lubricate the white scotch brite with WD40 or similar. Do not use the green (scratching) scotchbrite. You can find the white stuff at Ace Hardware. Buy a small sheet, cut a little piece off, and save it for minor jobs like this.

Spot treat the rust near the headtube. Even though I am a huge oxalic acid fan, I would use something simple like naval jelly or the rust converter I pick up from Walmart (and then follow it up with a small touchup paint).

Buyers have no imagination. If the bar tape is bad, I would replace it (if it looks good keep it). I buy bar tape for less than $5. Not worth it if you are going to spend $20 on bar tape.

Anything that looks like the bike has not been taken care of (dirty bike, torn bar tape, worn out tires), scares buyers and lowers your price.

I would replace the cables as they look rusty in the pic (hard to tell).

I have taken bikes that were ignored/neglected for 25 years and stored poorly. And with some work, they look like they were kept in a climate controlled museum. Someone will be happy to buy such a bike.

$250 in ready to go condition around here. Your market might be hotter. Hard to get over the $250 mark without brifters.

As it sits, it would not get $150 to $200 around here. It would get $100 to $125, and it would take a while to get that. Most people are not looking for a project, and those of us that are, look for healthy discounts to provide margin for a flip profit. Its just the way it is.

miamijim
05-15-09, 07:58 AM
Buyers have no imagination.

+1000 All they see is the bad verus what could be.

trueno92
05-15-09, 08:02 AM
in toronto, that bike, in that condition, would be asking for $350.

in totally clean condition, you could ask $400

toronto ppl are pretty resourceful. haha

roccobike
05-15-09, 08:34 AM
I did a couple of metric centuries on Michelin Dynamics before I moved up to Michelin kryiums. Pretty nice ride for an entry level tire. For $10 each they're a bargain.

treebound
05-15-09, 08:50 AM
I'll look into those Dymanics later today. This project just got put on the back burner until I check into that dust cover on the headset as well.

Appreciate the comments, thanks.

Edit: and it's gone. Got what I thought was a fair price in line with estimates above. Went to someone getting their first road bike, I think he'll have it for awhile.

loudawwg56
05-19-09, 09:24 AM
Nice bike! I recentley picked the same exact bike form my next door neighbor.

wesbos
05-20-09, 09:54 PM
goo gone worked amazing on my bianchi hoods

loudawwg56
06-08-09, 01:56 PM
I have the same exact bike. 1987 Bianch Sport SX

I used lighter fluid (zippo style) to clean my brake lever hoods. Worked great, no effort needed and made my hoods really bright white. For what its worth I bought my bike for $150 in excellent condition with new bontrage racelite tires and new continental tubes.



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