Singlespeed & Fixed Gear - handholding advice...

Decisions..

Well I am finally at a point where I think I am getting some fine parts for my bicycles.

My Phil Wood hubs arrived in the mail yesterday, 210 after shipping for new 2004 front a rear double fixed!! Add to this the set of promax/MA3s I received Tuesday, I am a fairly happy bicycle addict right now.

Here is where the handholding comes in…

Should I..

A) Build up the shiny silver Phil hubs to the black open pro rims I have already..
B) Buy a new set of as shiny silver open pro/other rims to use, keeping with the scheme.

Since I am will end up spending 400+ for these wheels, I am really leaning towards the latter.

Thanks for the advice.

Also, since I am going to be using a road conversion (kick @ss orange miyata), how do I correctly apply enough torque to hold the Phil hubs in place? With the promax, other hubs I have used, I add a little spacer with teeth to grip into the frame, therefore securing it better. The Phil hubs don’t seem to have enough space to use this item, and I am afraid of pulling my wheel out of the dropouts when applying great force.

Phil

put the phils on black open pros with black spokes, radial-laced front. your wheels will look dope.

Tracknuts!

damn I thought Lobo was some sort of major style queen... I think you take the crown!

Come on, I gotta make my bike look pretty....

God knows I am doing a hell of a job myself, I wear my greasy chef pants and skull cap around most of the time, even when I am not working.

And I don't have a Langster to put the wheels on, although I do have my PISTA which wouldn't work with the Phil hubs I bought NEway (126).

I got a better job and all of my bills paid of so I have some extra $ to spend on "commuting" expenses, call me a style queen, I don't see that as a negative really by default.

I got a better job and all of my bills paid of so I have some extra $ to spend on "commuting" expenses, call me a style queen, I don't see that as a negative really by default.

OK, fine. Good for you, too.

Post pics, OK?

As long as they're not The Gap's new "Greasy Look Chef Pants" you're probably OK. Isn't Dinosaur Jr. a Minneapolis band?

Isn't Dinosaur Jr. a Minneapolis band?

No, Amherst, MA.

Really?

i say put the phil wood hubs on mavic open pro cds. it looks sick!! that is what i have. the hard anodized look is amazing next to the shine of the hub.

d

so I have some extra $ to spend on "commuting" expenses
save your receipts...think April 15th, 2005. I claim mine.

']save your receipts...think April 15th, 2005. I claim mine.


Really?

Considering how much I spend each year, and how much I pay for taxes each year it might be a winning combination. Which line... Do you own your own buisness or something?

Like I have said many times before, I still don't have my license yet (26 years old last week) so I justify quite a few expenses on bicycles.

"Yes honey, I need another set of wheels, because.. Um... These ones are not... Um.. good..."

"Sure Phil, whatever"

"Really, these ones have weak spokes.. um... not safe I am sure of it, you don't want my wheel to bust do you?"

"Phil, I already said do what you want, it's your money."

"Sweet, because I already bought em..."

I thought I would post some pictures for ya....

I will post more on the bike after I get it all built up...

Otra vez...

i see someone's feet and a pedro's wrench in the background of that first pic...

also....sepia?

Actually that is a #2 pencil and my wife's feet as she waits for me to get off the d@mn computer and go to bed...

The pedros wrench is in my messenger bag...

Sepia, yes, iPhoto/Macs have buttons which are difficult not to press....

i say put the phil wood hubs on mavic open pro cds. it looks sick!! that is what i have. the hard anodized look is amazing next to the shine of the hub.

d

post a pic please. i just bought a set of the same phils offa ebay. i am trying to visualize what i want them to look like. heres my bike:

Really? Considering how much I spend each year, and how much I pay for taxes each year it might be a winning combination. Which line... Do you own your own buisness or something?
I wish I did, but do not.
I was able to submit a list of bike parts 2 years ago (about $300 or so) for a tax break at the request of the tax guy. Since I made a "new" purchase this year, I'll be doing the same again.
FYI - my bike is how I travel. This does not apply to recreational purchases.

Come on, I gotta make my bike look pretty....

God knows I am doing a hell of a job myself, I wear my greasy chef pants and skull cap around most of the time, even when I am not working.

And I don't have a Langster to put the wheels on, although I do have my PISTA which wouldn't work with the Phil hubs I bought NEway (126).

I got a better job and all of my bills paid of so I have some extra $ to spend on "commuting" expenses, call me a style queen, I don't see that as a negative really by default.


I have a lot of Phil hubs and the only time I ever had any trouble as on the front fork dropouts of one bike that has a wider slot than the others. The Phil seemed to slide around a little making it hard to center the wheel in the front fork without a lot of hassle. The solution was to change to another style of track hub from another maker with Track nuts and washers and move the Phils onto another bike. I have never had a Phil slip on the rear track drops and I ride a lot of hills. Just use enough force to torque them down and you will be ok. I have one of those long allen wrenches and I carry and use that rather than the shorter variety. You could use your foot on the shorter one but I think that is kind of crude, and inexact.

fixedgearhead

Is this bike going to have brakes?
I really love black rims and spokes on a brakeless bike, they look mean and sexy. However, if you put them on a bike with brakes they get that shiny stripe on them and I don't dig that. Worst of all is a bike with only a front brake with black rims, then you get only one wheel with a stripe. Ewwwwwww.
All this assumes that you get rims that are totally black by the way, and not ones with a shiny machined stripe on them in the first place.
I usually don't like to demonstrate how much of a style nerd I am.... but you asked.

those open pros that goat has arent ceramic, so they have the machined braking surface. i am thinking about getting ceramics ... and i have a front brake. but i never use it. i *almost* used it the other day when my foot came out and i ran the redlight. but even then i didnt.
i dunno, all black ceramics are nice. but what about electric blue or canary yellow rims? or do they ruin the effect of classic high-flange hubs?

Okay, style time. I have 2 black bikes both 15-20 yo classics. On one I really want to keep the classic look so likely silver hubs and silver rims (Mavis MA-3). Of course deep drop track bars, no brakes and white cloth tape on the bars.
The other a Panasonic is black w/yellow lettering. Yellow rims w/machined walls and black hubs maybe? Yellow trimmed seat and yellow/black marble tape.
Hey, trivial I know but at least they should look good on the days I am not riding them.
Tony

I thought I would post some pictures for ya....

I will post more on the bike after I get it all built up...

I meant of the bike when its completed... Boy... kids these days!

Really?

No, I would rather have you go look it up on line and prove otherwise. :D

Nah! I prefer to let you carry on with your delusion.

Is this bike going to have brakes?
I really love black rims and spokes on a brakeless bike, they look mean and sexy. However, if you put them on a bike with brakes they get that shiny stripe on them and I don't dig that. Worst of all is a bike with only a front brake with black rims, then you get only one wheel with a stripe. Ewwwwwww.
All this assumes that you get rims that are totally black by the way, and not ones with a shiny machined stripe on them in the first place.
I usually don't like to demonstrate how much of a style nerd I am.... but you asked.

Not sure if I am going to put in on a bike with brakes or not, I might put them on my black kuwahara, black seatpost, nitto track bars, black tape... Might be sexy with the black open pros, black spokes, phils. I guess my other orange bike would be fine if it was with just the suzue promax/ma3s....


And I decided my lacing pattern if you are all interested, Radial in front, 3x rear.. My LBS helper Ben explained to me today that expecially with a man of my stature (6'2" 185) radially lacing the rear would not be the smartest idea, especially on a fixed gear.

Off subject I got myself a new chain today, KMC INOX S10 stainless track... Talk about sexy...

Phil

So I took the hubs in to get built up, the lady working at the counter seemed as excited as I was.

So here is how what I decided,

Black double butted spokes,
radial front
3x rear
black open pro
silver phil's


Price for the build is going to be 160, I hope it will be from the guy who built wheels at Quality for many years, but I am not sure.

So
Hubs 205
Rims 80
Build 160
Total spent will be 445 before cog, rimstrip, tires, etc.

Funny how my wife is begining to raise an eye when I explain to her that my riding my bike to work actually saves us money...

Phil

So I took the hubs in to get built up, the lady working at the counter seemed as excited as I was.

So here is how what I decided....


Phil

get em back yet? can i have a looksee?

Nah! I prefer to let you carry on with your delusion.

OK, but mine is more true than yours.

get em back yet? can i have a looksee?

Sorry, not yet..

The shop didn't have the spokes, so it will take a couple of days before they start the build..

Don't worry, I will post pics though...

Phil

Sorry, not yet..

The shop didn't have the spokes, so it will take a couple of days before they start the build..

Don't worry, I will post pics though...

Phil

i am going on a bike tour to the coast next week. when i get back i will have an ohboy! ohboy! a package at my door!