Foo - Bolts Win!!!

2004 Stanley Cup Champions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well finally Andrechuck gets his cup. Good for him...

And man that second goal for tampa...unreal goal. Great series...

Oh and wanna hear the funny part. Tampa bay has more canadian players than calgary...sooo

GO CANADA!!!

Well finally Andrechuck gets his cup. Good for him...

And man that second goal for tampa...unreal goal. Great series...

Oh and wanna hear the funny part. Tampa bay has more canadian players than calgary...sooo

GO CANADA!!!WHOOOOOO HOOOOOOO!

Congrats to the Bolts! Shame on you Kerry Fraizer. That last call on Pratt was real crap.

WHOOOOOO HOOOOOOO!

What are you doing online...go drink. Your team just got the cup :D

Like I said "Game 7 just to be dramatic" I'll be back on later IT"S PARTY TIME

I gotta say that this was the best series Ive ever seen. No garbage hockey. That second goal was amazing. Stickhandles like mad. Theres always next year.

Thats ****ing bull****. Kerry Frazer screwed the flames with that last call, and of everything he could've called, he called a charge. It just isnt right when a team from Florida beats a canadian team in hockey for the Cup

Thats ****ing bull****. Kerry Frazer screwed the flames with that last call, and of everything he could've called, he called a charge. It just isnt right when a team from Florida beats a canadian team in hockey for the Cup

There are more canadians on TB than Calgary ;)...

Still I hate refs in hockey but you gotta give credit to TB. Amazing puck handling, superior defence and better offence (I HATE dump and run hockey that calgary was playing) It was a bad call but thats hockey...unfortunately...

Definately the best series in many many many years. I might give hockey a shot again next year, if it prove to stay good I might have to become a fan again.

Thats ****ing bull****. Kerry Frazer screwed the flames with that last call, and of everything he could've called, he called a charge. It just isn't right when a team from Florida beats a Canadian team in hockey for the CupWhat and that cut on St. Louis was my imagination? Frasier could (should) have given Iginla a game misconduct penalty for the temper tantrum he threw and in actuality the call should have been FOUR minutes for the blood being drawn.
http://nhl.com/hockeyu/rulebook/rule41.html#c

It's an obvious sign of the apocalypse, a team from Florida winning the Stanely Cup.

It's an obvious sign of the apocalypse, a team from Florida winning the Stanely Cup.
The world could end tomorrow and still won't change the fact that the Tampa Bay Lightning are the 2003-2004 Stanley Cup Champions. None of the "experts" respected our chances and now they're choking on it. Eat this Max Kellerman and Jim Rome!
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/9255/andreychuk_cup_group060704.jpg

The world could end tomorrow and still won't change the fact that the Tampa Bay Lightning are the 2003-2004 Stanley Cup Champions. None of the "experts" respected our chances and now they're choking on it. Eat this Max Kellerman and Jim Rome!
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/9255/andreychuk_cup_group060704.jpg


I really don't care alot for pro sports.

I really don't care alot for pro sports.
Then why make the Apocalypse statement? Sounds kinda bitter for someone who doesn't care.http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/79/529.gif

Then why make the Apocalypse statement? Sounds kinda bitter for someone who doesn't care.http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/79/529.gif

Ongoing joke amongst myself.

Ongoing joke amongst myself.
OK <shrug> http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/1571/aha.gif

I am happy for Dave, however Max needs to stick to boxing. Rome well who needs him anyway.

I am happy for Dave, however Max needs to stick to boxing. Rome well who needs him anyway.
Couldn't agree more. Dang are we starting a trend here? That's 3 thing in the last few days we've seen eye to eye on. :beer:

Couldn't agree more. Dang are we starting a trend here? That's 3 thing in the last few days we've seen eye to eye on. :beer:


:eek: Scary huh? :D

I shouldn't forget the Conn Smythe trophy winner (playoff MVP) Brad Richards. http://www.nhl.com/cupcrazy2004/serieso/richards_connsmythe060704.shtml
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/1608/richards_connsmythe060704.jpg
With his even game winners in the post-season he's still one of the first (he and St.Louis especially) to spread the credit to his team.

Uhh, this sucks, Flames got so close. But congrats to Tampa and especially to Andreychuck. They played a great series and controlled the 7th game for nearly 50 minutes. They earned it. And there will always be next season... :beer:

--J

The Lightning winning the Stanley Cup has been more fun then the Bucs winning the superbowl.
They should of made today a holiday in Tampa. We are all so tired and a little hung over that it is going to be a long work day.. Might have to get the 24 hour flu tomorrow to see the parade..

YEAH LIGHTNING!!!

What and that cut on St. Louis was my imagination? Frasier could (should) have given Iginla a game misconduct penalty for the temper tantrum he threw and in actuality the call should have been FOUR minutes for the blood being drawn.
http://nhl.com/hockeyu/rulebook/rule41.html#c

The only reason blood was drawn was b/c when St. Louis fell who ever's stick it was came down with him in a controlled manner and tapped him. Definately not a call you make in the last 5 mins of game 7 in a 2-1 game. Raiyn i've been playing hockey for 12 years, i know this game, and i know that wasn't a high stick and the fact the blood was drawn was more because of the fall than the hit

There are more canadians on TB than Calgary ;)...



During the winter I think there are more Canadians in Ft. Lauderdale / Miami than there are locals. Half of my mens hockey team are Canadians - eh!

Yeah Bolts!

L8R

During the winter I think there are more Canadians in Ft. Lauderdale / Miami than there are locals. Half of my mens hockey team are Canadians - eh!

Yeah the white birds or something. We have a huge group of 1000's of canadians that commute to florida every winter....

The only reason blood was drawn was b/c when St. Louis fell who ever's stick it was came down with him in a controlled manner and tapped him. Definately not a call you make in the last 5 mins of game 7 in a 2-1 game. Raiyn i've been playing hockey for 12 years, i know this game, and i know that wasn't a high stick and the fact the blood was drawn was more because of the fall than the hit


It was charging, a marginal call at best, but not a four minute penalty. Always nice to see a few ex-leafs win the cup, Andrechuk and Modin. Only way any 'leafs' will win one anytime soon.

Yeah the white birds or something. We have a huge group of 1000's of canadians that commute to florida every winter....

Snow Birds. Don't you remember the Anne Murrey song?

Didn't the Flames win it in game 6? Oh wait....replay was inconclusive. I'm sure there are many folks in Buffalo--especially those that still have the "No Goal" placards in their living room windows--that now sympathize with Calgary's plight.

The only reason blood was drawn was b/c when St. Louis fell who ever's stick it was came down with him in a controlled manner and tapped him. Definitely not a call you make in the last 5 mins of game 7 in a 2-1 game. Raiyn i've been playing hockey for 12 years, i know this game, and i know that wasn't a high stick and the fact the blood was drawn was more because of the fall than the hit
No it wasn't a high stick it was charging. (http://nhl.com/hockeyu/rulebook/rule47.html) Before you continue to whine about it remember all throughout the series Calgary had gotten away with calls that should have been made - specifically Regehr's hit on Fedotenko in game three. Oh wait, by your logic I guess Ville Nieminen's hit on Lecavalier shouldn't have been a penalty either. Peter I've been involved with hockey for 23 years I got my first pair of skates when I was 4 years old and I know damn well that there are very few whistles in the playoffs and while I still feel that's the way it should be there is no reason that blatant penalties should be ignored. It was at Fraser's discretion to make the call and decide whether or not it should be a minor or double minor penalty - he could have very easily called it four minutes due to the blood involved but he didn't likely due to the incidental nature of the stick's contact. He also had at his discretion to issue Iginla a misconduct penalty for his tirade - but he didn't the game's over, my team won so go sulk and watch the Red Wings retire.

Didn't the Flames win it in game 6? Oh wait....replay was inconclusive. I'm sure there are many folks in Buffalo--especially those that still have the "No Goal" placards in their living room windows--that now sympathize with Calgary's plight
Hmmm funny even the commentators retracted their statements after ABC did a bit of computer animation based on all the evidence provided by the exact same camera angles that the officials had. The differnce being the Brett Hull's goal was scored on a clear violation of the goal crease rule.


And while disappointed, Sutter agreed that replays couldn't tell the tale on this one.

"No, I looked at it and that's got to be a conclusive play," Sutter said. "I looked at it from two different angles and unless they have a different one, you can't say that's a goal. ? You can't argue that point."No you really can't.

Tampa Tribune(the major paper around here) really screwed up on their editorial. They must of went to bed before the 2nd period..

http://tampatrib.com/News/MGBRN2928VD.html

Raiyn-

I live in DC and have roots in Philly. Let me be bitter, for god's sake.

Hold on dude. At least you admitted that it was a marginal call, and im glad to hear you actually have played before and just aren't jumping on the Lightning bandwagon, but no matter how you put it the only call that should be made in the final 5 mins of a 2-1 game 7 are high sticks, and trips on a break away. Which ever flame it was that made the hit was just taking the hit that was given to him. I would've done the same thing if i was Iginla.

FYI i put on my first pair of skates when i was 4 too, i guess we have something in common, but you have been involved with the game longer than i've been alive

Tampa Tribune(the major paper around here) really screwed up on their editorial. They must of went to bed before the 2nd period..

http://tampatrib.com/News/MGBRN2928VD.htmlThat's why I read The St. Petersburg Times (http://www.sptimes.com/) they've always had MUCH better Lightning coverage even before they became the title sponser of the St. Pete Times Forum

Hold on dude. At least you admitted that it was a marginal call, and im glad to hear you actually have played before and just aren't jumping on the Lightning bandwagon, but no matter how you put it the only call that should be made in the final 5 mins of a 2-1 game 7 are high sticks, and trips on a break away. Which ever flame it was that made the hit was just taking the hit that was given to him. I would've done the same thing if i was Iginla.

FYI i put on my first pair of skates when i was 4 too, i guess we have something in common, but you have been involved with the game longer than i've been alive
Truce then?

Udo Bolts? what did he win? I thought he was retired. . . .


:D

Marty

Well I have to congratulte the Lightning. Calgary didn't seem to have the heart until the third period. I don't know about that computer analysis, they could have done anything with that but it was too close to call the cup over I think. And I'm not sure about the charging call, I don't think that it was charging but it was definately a penalty of some sort (I would have called it high sticking, the replay clearly showed his stick nailing St. Louis's face. Despite what I said about Lecavalier(happy Raiyn :p ) earlier he really showed his true colors in game 7 and helped the bolts along. Khabibulin played another great game, even though he didn't face that many shots. I hope he had some heavy consideration for MVP. Congrats to the lightning because they worked their tails off to get there. Congrats to the flames because no one expected anything out of them this year. It was a great series.

Also, Did anyone else think that St. Louis looked like a very escited leprachaun when he held the cup up? :)

What and that cut on St. Louis was my imagination? Frasier could (should) have given Iginla a game misconduct penalty for the temper tantrum he threw and in actuality the call should have been FOUR minutes for the blood being drawn.
http://nhl.com/hockeyu/rulebook/rule41.html#c

As an independent observer (that is, not rooting for either team), it was a terrible call. He was hit pretty cleanly and fell awkwardly into the *unraised* stick of the second Flame. Incidental contact that happened to lead to blood. You can't make that call in the last minute of game 7. You just can't.

The previous third period call against Tampa was terrible too (the one that the Flames scored on). Two horrible calls in the last period of a stanley cup game seven.

It's a shame the reffing was so bad those last two games, it was a good series. I give the Bolts a lot of credit, they were awesome and certainly not undeserving.

But sorry, in my mind it will always be the series that the Flames won in game 6 and the refs didn't notice.

Did you guys see Brad Richards on ESPN2's Cold Pizza show this morning? He had just left the rink, went home for a shower, and came back for the interview at around 8 o'clock this morning. He was making sense but sluring his words. :) It's good to be the champs!

As an independent observer (that is, not rooting for either team), it was a terrible call. He was hit pretty cleanly and fell awkwardly into the *unraised* stick of the second Flame. Incidental contact that happened to lead to blood. You can't make that call in the last minute of game 7. You just can't.

The previous third period call against Tampa was terrible too (the one that the Flames scored on). Two horrible calls in the last period of a Stanley Cup game seven.

It's a shame the reffing was so bad those last two games, it was a good series. I give the Bolts a lot of credit, they were awesome and certainly not undeserving.

But sorry, in my mind it will always be the series that the Flames won in game 6 and the refs didn't notice.The fact that you're based in Philly makes you far from an independent observer in my opinion. The fact remains that the hit was called what you nay sayers forget is that the game finished up 4-on-4 due to the Andreychuk tripping call. It was even strength at the end of the game and due to a mistake by the Flames they weren't able to pull Kiprusoff. That plus the fact the Calgary's best player Jarome Iginla had been held scorless for two games certainly didn't help their cause. As for the non-goal B.S. Calgary's GM and coach Darryl Sutter himself said on NHL.com that the non goal call was correct "No, I looked at it and that's got to be a conclusive play," Sutter said. "I looked at it from two different angles and unless they have a different one, you can't say that's a goal. ? You can't argue that point." (http://www.nhl.com/cupcrazy2004/serieso/game6.shtml)

Did you guys see Brad Richards on ESPN2's Cold Pizza show this morning? He had just left the rink, went home for a shower, and came back for the interview at around 8 o'clock this morning. He was making sense but sluring his words. :) It's good to be the champs!No I was sound asleep :( He's entitled to enjoy the celebration.

The fact that you're based in Philly makes you far from an independent observer in my opinion. The fact remains that the hit was called what you nay sayers forget is that the game finished up 4-on-4 due to the Andreychuk tripping call. It was even strength at the end of the game and due to a mistake by the Flames they weren't able to pull Kiprusoff. That plus the fact the Calgary's best player Jarome Iginla had been held scorless for two games certainly didn't help their cause. As for the non-goal B.S. Calgary's GM and coach Darryl Sutter himself said on NHL.com that the non goal call was correct "No, I looked at it and that's got to be a conclusive play," Sutter said. "I looked at it from two different angles and unless they have a different one, you can't say that's a goal. ? You can't argue that point." (http://www.nhl.com/cupcrazy2004/serieso/game6.shtml)

Sutter was being classy. I don't have that requirement :) And it was clearly and obviously over the line.

I'm not criticizing Tampa. As I said they were deserving. I'm more criticizing the refs.

And yes, the refs evened it up. But as I said, two bad calls (one against each team) in the third period of game seven is inexcusable. And a call and an even up call with 60 seconds 22 seconds left respectivley still effectively ruins any chance of pulling the goalie and getting some good desperation attack (which as a fan, I wanted to see that drama). The game was essentially over at 18:59.

And as far as being from Philly, I don't know that would make me biased. In fact, Tampa winning makes the Flyers look better. It's always better to have the cup winner in our conference and now the Flyers can say that in this year's playoffs they beat last year's cup winner and took this year's best team to seven games. Not too shabby. :)

Congrat's to the Lightning and you Raiyn. I've laughed at your avatar a few times over the last year, but look who's laughing now. This comes from a Bruins fan. You guys may have the cup for a while if there is no hockey next season. See ya,
Chris

And it was clearly and obviously over the line.

:)
The NHL and ABC disagree.

Congrat's to the Lightning and you Raiyn. I've laughed at your avatar a few times over the last year, but look who's laughing now. This comes from a Bruins fan. You guys may have the cup for a while if there is no hockey next season. See ya,
ChrisHey at least we swept Montreal for you. :D Hey I gotta get off for a while we've got a big storm brewing outside and I don't want my team's namesake blowing my comp.

Truce then?

No way in Hell am i calling a truce with you. It's too much fun to argue hockey with someone that actually has played the game and knows what they're talking about. At first when you pulled out that rule book shinanigans i thought you were some newb who just jumped on the bandwagon and thought it was smart to refer to the rulebook.

The facts with game 7 are pretty clear. 1) Tampa won. 2)Frazier's call was a shady one at best. 3) Iginla got shut down, and he needed to score in order for Calgary to win the cup. 4) Calgary finally ran into a team with more talent than them, but was finally willing to play as hard as them

No way in Hell am I calling a truce with you. It's too much fun to argue hockey with someone that actually has played the game and knows what they're talking about. At first when you pulled out that rule book shenanigans I thought you were some newb who just jumped on the bandwagon and thought it was smart to refer to the rulebook.


A hockey newb? Not hardly? Front running bandwagon jumper? Far from. (Whenever my girlfriend and I finally had the means to invest in season tickets a few years back we asked if we'd have dibs on the seats for the playoffs - the rep just gave us a funny look as the team had finished dead last the season prior. :D)
The funny thing of it was I figured you for a know-nothing, buy-yoor-championship Red Wings front runner (like the unfortunate representatives that show up down here for the Wings yearly visit). so I figured you'd need to have the rule explained. I guess we were both wrong.
Let the friendly rivalry continue then.:beer:

A hockey newb? Not hardly? Front running bandwagon jumper? Far from. (Whenever my girlfriend and I finally had the means to invest in season tickets a few years back we asked if we'd have dibs on the seats for the playoffs - the rep just gave us a funny look as the team had finished dead last the season prior. :D)
The funny thing of it was I figured you for a know-nothing, buy-yoor-championship Red Wings front runner (like the unfortunate representatives that show up down here for the Wings yearly visit). so I figured you'd need to have the rule explained. I guess we were both wrong.
Let the friendly rivalry continue then.:beer:


Amen! I guess it was a mutual form is both of us thinking the other one is a newb deal. Facts are here in MI though that just about everybody has played hockey at one point in time or another. But back to the point, the Wings are done for about 5 years. Its definately time for serious rebuilding, and taking some time and growing our own talent. Good for the lightning, and bad for the wings

Amen! I guess it was a mutual form is both of us thinking the other one is a newb deal. Facts are here in MI though that just about everybody has played hockey at one point in time or another. But back to the point, the Wings are done for about 5 years. Its definately time for serious rebuilding, and taking some time and growing our own talent. Good for the lightning, and bad for the wings
With the looks of things to come (meaning the new CBA) player development should return to being an intenal thing rather than renting "gunslingers" for the playoffs. Player salaries should grow at a much more manageable rate and be more tied to actual acheivments in the form of bonuses. As far you growing up in Michigan I grew up about 30 miles (as the crow flies) from the Canadian border in Northeastern Minnesota (little area called the Iron Range) hockey is practically a religion there in much the same way football is in Texas so I think I can grasp what you're saying. Blast Norm Green for stealing the North Stars but bless Phil Esposito for bringing the Lightning. :D Ya gotta love a team that played it's first season in a barn then moved to a Baseball stadium before they got their own building. Floridians go figure.

If anybody got the St. Pete Times today, I am on the back of the last page (LOL) lower right hand corner, dead center in the pic! Proudly wearing my DH shirt! (Thee Doll House). Good stuff!