"The 33"-Road Bike Racing - This is what makes our sport beautiful...

Discuss.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2009/giro09/giro0916/bettiniphoto_0039509_1_full.jpg

Wannabes who talk about attempting to crash someone on their wheel, during a POS group ride because he can't sprint, please take note.

Only sport where opposing teams work together one day, and against the next, and together...

Suffering is collective and universal

http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/photos/races09/giro09/giro09st16-water.jpg

it's awesome.

is it me, or is basso hocking a loogey in that pic?

Ha, it looks like it.

What's there to discuss?

A couple of years ago during the TdF there was a two-man break that had been away for hours. They rode into the finishing town together and as they passed under the flamme rouge, they shook hands, said bon chance, and then duked it out for the win.

Even though this was during Lancemania, this is the moment that hooked me for a lifetime.

maybe a dumb question but where are they getting these huge bottles. I assume it is in the feed zone but since they dont fit in cages do they drink them right away and chuck them?

Biological warfare.

“I gots teh mono"

maybe a dumb question but where are they getting these huge bottles. I assume it is in the feed zone but since they dont fit in cages do they drink them right away and chuck them?

fans.

is it me, or is basso hocking a loogey in that pic?

Yeah - for a while I thought that maybe he had taken a spill and that was a bandage, but now I've seen the ... uh, light.... Or something.

That one Menchov's got went the way most do - dumped onto his head. The riders seem to trust cans of coke though.

Bread cast upon the water.

maybe a dumb question but where are they getting these huge bottles. I assume it is in the feed zone but since they dont fit in cages do they drink them right away and chuck them?

Hand-ups from the crowds, picked up, passed around, and ditched quickly.


edit: Man, I gotta hit refresh before I reply.

Botto, are you drunk?
This thread is so g**

Botto, are you drunk?
This thread is so g**

Maybe.

Botto, are you drunk?
This thread is so g**

What is so g** about men giving each other fluids?:innocent:

Only sport where opposing teams work together one day, and against the next, and together...
It happens in auto racing (if you call it a sport) all the time.

It happens in auto racing (if you call it a sport) all the time.

I call it a sport, mainly because I've experienced it.

A couple of years ago during the TdF there was a two-man break that had been away for hours. They rode into the finishing town together and as they passed under the flamme rouge, they shook hands, said bon chance, and then duked it out for the win.

Even though this was during Lancemania, this is the moment that hooked me for a lifetime.

My lifetime fan moment was late in the 2006 Giro. Jens Voigt was in a long break with a Spanish rider, mountain finish, Basso on CSC in the maglia rosa. Voigt ordered not to work on the last climb, but to do the wheelsucker sprint for the stage win. Voigt rolls up to his companion, speaks, pats the guy's back...and sits up in the last kilometer. No one shows grit and class like Jens.

What is so g** about men giving each other fluids?:innocent:

Oh dear...

Amen.

That and the enigma through suffering.

Discuss.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2009/giro09/giro0916/bettiniphoto_0039509_1_full.jpg

Wannabes who talk about attempting to crash someone on their wheel, during a POS group ride because he can't sprint, please take note.

Quoting the whole OP because it says it all AFAIC.

fans.

Or more correctly -- tifosi.

M moment was a picture I glimpsed a looong time ago in the back of Winning or something.

Merckx had won The Tour. He'd won the yellow, of course, by nearly 18 minutes over Roger Pingeon and with Poulador five minutes further back in third; but he'd won the polka dot and green jerseys as well. He had utterly crushed everyone.

The picture is of the three podium men. Merckx, as a sign of respect, perhaps, had given the green jersey to one of them (can't remember if it was Pingeon or Poulodor). In the picture, the recipient is weeping into the green jersey.

BL

http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/photos/races09/giro09/giro09st16-hot.jpg

very nice thread botto....
not to take it in another direction.
it's not always quite so beautiful....

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/3759/crash002.jpg

thanks to Diabloscott for the image
;)

M moment was a picture I glimpsed a looong time ago in the back of Winning or something.

Merckx had won The Tour. He'd won the yellow, of course, by nearly 18 minutes over Roger Pingeon and with Poulador five minutes further back in third; but he'd won the polka dot and green jerseys as well. He had utterly crushed everyone.

The picture is of the three podium men. Merckx, as a sign of respect, perhaps, had given the green jersey to one of them (can't remember if it was Pingeon or Poulodor). In the picture, the recipient is weeping into the green jersey.

BL

I have seen that picture as well, and I believe the rider you're referring to was Cyrille Guimard. The story behind it makes it even more meaningful. Guimard had hurt his knees so badly while challenging Merckx that he had to be carried to his bike at the start of some stages.

From Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyrille_Guimard):


Guimard's most striking Tour de France was in 1972, when he wore the maillot jaune of leadership and matched Eddy Merckx in the mountains. Fighting to keep the lead on long climbs created pain in his knees, one of which he injured in 1969 in an accident with a car while he was training. Merckx won two stages in the Alps and Guimard the next. Merckx tried to dispose of him on a 28km stage to Mont Revard but Guimard, instead of cracking, won by 10cm as the Belgian raised his hands thinking he had won.

Guimard was in second place and leading the points competition two days from the finish in Paris when he was forced to withdraw.[6] Merckx gave his green points jersey to Guimard on the podium in Paris.

And from Blazing Saddles (the book, not the movie!):


In Paris, he offered the green points jersey to Guimard, who burst in to tears on behalf of everyone whose career coincided with the mighty Kong.

That's the one. It's an incredible image.

BL

That's the one. It's an incredible image.

BL

Surely someone has that picture and a scanner. Would be nice to see.

yea someone post up that pic.

maybe a dumb question but where are they getting these huge bottles. I assume it is in the feed zone but since they dont fit in cages do they drink them right away and chuck them?


Biological warfare.

“I gots teh mono"

'tis not for drinking

I know this isn't the pic you guys are after, but still, 2 rivals, 2 smiles.

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/716/guimard.jpg

http://tour2003.dna.fr/L30/1867_0.jpg

I did not know this story. It just raises Eddy to a whole new quantum of awesomeness. If that's even possible.

There's also the highly debated picture of bartali and coppi. A great show of sportmanship between two rivals. Someone more enterprising then myself can find that one.

http://www.cyclinghalloffame.com/riders/pics/BartaliCoppi1952.jpg

Can't find a picture, but I was suitably impressed a few TDF's ago, when Jan Ulrich went ***-over-tea-kettle off the side of the road, and Lance stopped to make sure he was o.k.

Bob

maybe a dumb question but where are they getting these huge bottles. I assume it is in the feed zone but since they dont fit in cages do they drink them right away and chuck them?

You've never actually watched one of these races? Or did you just miss the hundred of fans running up the mountains holding bottles of water for the riders to douse themselves with? On mondays hellish stage it seemed to be happening every 100 meters.

maybe a dumb question but where are they getting these huge bottles. I assume it is in the feed zone but since they dont fit in cages do they drink them right away and chuck them?

They chuck them in front of the tire of the guy/team they don't like - i.e. Levi

Voigt ordered not to work on the last climb, but to do the wheelsucker sprint for the stage win. Voigt rolls up to his companion, speaks, pats the guy's back...and sits up in the last kilometer. No one shows grit and class like Jens.


this scenario doesn't make sense.. being a wheelsucker on a climb doesn't actually make you a wheelsucker because the advantage is only really psychological. what really happened i wonder.

Couple things ... define wannabe ... and understand the difference between a threat and an actual attempt. ;)

Couple things ... define wannabe ... and understand the difference between a threat and an actual attempt. ;)

guilty conscience?

this scenario doesn't make sense.. being a wheelsucker on a climb doesn't actually make you a wheelsucker because the advantage is only really psychological. what really happened i wonder.

just because you climb too slow for drafting to be effective doesn't mean everyone does.

Apparently, the team cars were even running out of water. The bottles from the fans was all that many of the guys had to drink or pour on themselves. Pretty cool to see them pass it around. At one point I saw a guy (fan) kind of sprinkling Lance and he motioned that he wanted the bottle. The guy gave it to him and he took a drink, poured it on himself, and then gave it to Levi. Cool that they were sharing amongst rivals as well.

this scenario doesn't make sense.. being a wheelsucker on a climb doesn't actually make you a wheelsucker because the advantage is only really psychological. what really happened i wonder.

Was the other a rider a threat to the GC standings of Voigt's teammate, Basso? In that case, Voigt would have no incentive to help pace another rider closer to his team leader in the overall standings.

Of course that was the year Basso "attempted to dope" by way of a gynecologist in Madrid, and he was pretty much untouchable in that Giro. :rolleyes:

You've never actually watched one of these races? Or did you just miss the hundred of fans running up the mountains holding bottles of water for the riders to douse themselves with? On mondays hellish stage it seemed to be happening every 100 meters.

I have been watching the giro but i do fast forward through some as i dont have 2 hours to watch it. I see fans running next to them but I didn't know if they would trust some nut job fans bottle of magic juice. Others answered my question but thanks.

Most of the time the pros don't drink what fans hand them - you have no idea what's in the bottle.