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sknhgy
05-28-09, 06:27 PM
We were having our end of the year cookout at school. Several of the younger coaches took charge of the cooking. I sat and watched silently as they threw the burgers and brats on the fire before the lighter fluid had half a chance to burn off. Then they didn't have any onions. I had to go get some. Then they put bbq sauce on the burgers.
Damn rookies. No wonder people drink so much beer. Kills the taste of the food.


DataJunkie
05-28-09, 06:37 PM
Racist fish. Jeeze!

redirekib
05-28-09, 06:39 PM
BBQ-ing takes years of experience, it can't be learned from a book. I made plenty of mistakes before becoming the greatest BBQ King in all the land.


1bluetrek
05-28-09, 06:41 PM
Brats and burgers?? LOL I thought you said somthing a bout bbq!

redirekib
05-28-09, 06:47 PM
Brats and burgers?? LOL I thought you said somthing a bout bbq!

Excellent point.

StupidlyBrave
05-28-09, 06:49 PM
Got that right...

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s65/StupidlyBrave/Canooooz/Juniata2008/100_4509.jpg

ehidle
05-28-09, 06:50 PM
Oh, I beg to differ...

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_RX2uz5fR3dA/Sh8xoMYeRVI/AAAAAAAAIfA/7l_9Z_33WKQ/s640/P1010428.JPG

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_RX2uz5fR3dA/Sh8w8dVJ3JI/AAAAAAAAIe4/DO_An-JnbpY/s640/P1010435.JPG

One Bacon Explosion - Outer bacon wrap packed with ground sausage, cooked bacon, and BBQ sauce, smoked for ~3hrs at 225F in the smoker, fired with hickory wood...

bigfred
05-28-09, 06:52 PM
Young Yankees can't even grill

fixed it for you.

redirekib
05-28-09, 06:54 PM
Oh, I beg to differ...

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_RX2uz5fR3dA/Sh8xoMYeRVI/AAAAAAAAIfA/7l_9Z_33WKQ/s640/P1010428.JPG

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_RX2uz5fR3dA/Sh8w8dVJ3JI/AAAAAAAAIe4/DO_An-JnbpY/s640/P1010435.JPG

One Bacon Explosion - Outer bacon wrap packed with ground sausage, cooked bacon, and BBQ sauce, smoked for ~3hrs at 225F in the smoker, fired with hickory wood...

That doesn't look very healthy !! Though I think my wife wouldn't have any trouble with it. Bacon is her weakness.

JoelS
05-28-09, 07:11 PM
Brats and burgers is NOT BBQ.

I BBQ'd a TriTip (the dry rub was my own concoction) today for my wife's birthday. I started it at 6am. The smoker was kept at a nice constant 210 degrees for 10 hours. By that time the internal temp of the meat had come up to, and past the 190 degree plateau. At that point it was done and needed to be wrapped in foil and allowed to rest for an hour so it wouldn't dry out.

Pulled it and served on soft rolls with pickles and red onion. Sauce is optional.

Pork shoulders (what I usually make) and beef brisket also do exceptionally well cooked like this. But she wanted TriTip, and it was her birthday.

Now that's BBQ.

StupidlyBrave
05-28-09, 07:16 PM
Churrasco FTW (No one bbq's like Brazilians, IMHO)
http://s3.amazonaws.com/rede_prod/assets/0047/6880/churrasco8_thumb.jpg

USAZorro
05-28-09, 07:25 PM
Brats and burgers is NOT BBQ.

I BBQ'd a TriTip (the dry rub was my own concoction) today for my wife's birthday. I started it at 6am. The smoker was kept at a nice constant 210 degrees for 10 hours. By that time the internal temp of the meat had come up to, and past the 190 degree plateau. At that point it was done and needed to be wrapped in foil and allowed to rest for an hour so it wouldn't dry out.

Pulled it and served on soft rolls with pickles and red onion. Sauce is optional.

Pork shoulders (what I usually make) and beef brisket also do exceptionally well cooked like this. But she wanted TriTip, and it was her birthday.

Now that's BBQ.

So you're saying you're not white? or not a man? :innocent:

JoelS
05-28-09, 07:44 PM
So you're saying you're not white? or not a man? :innocent:

Actually, I'm a Jew :roflmao2:

sknhgy
05-28-09, 08:16 PM
Brats and burgers?? LOL I thought you said somthing a bout bbq!

Yes, that further backs my statement. If they couldn't cook burgers and weenies, how could they take on ribs or chicken or a nice pork butt, etc.

The ignorant *******s.

sknhgy
05-28-09, 08:48 PM
Yes, that further backs my statement. If they couldn't cook burgers and weenies, how could they take on ribs or chicken or a nice pork butt, etc.

The ignorant *******s.

Hey, I'm just kidding. :)

USAZorro
05-28-09, 08:57 PM
Actually, I'm a Jew :roflmao2:

<tactfully refrains from further comment>

Mr. Markets
05-28-09, 08:59 PM
Churrasco FTW (No one bbq's like Brazilians, IMHO)
http://s3.amazonaws.com/rede_prod/assets/0047/6880/churrasco8_thumb.jpg

Try to catch the Anthony Bourdain show on Uruguay. I ate at the very same place where they have all
that delicious mean on the grill. AMAZING stuff! Argentina/Uruguay are BIG on their beef!

Tude
05-28-09, 10:30 PM
Uh-K - have to take a little control here, as yes - I can bbq - and yes I prefer a nice slow schmoking charcoal/wood fire to schmoke the stuff (if I intend on a long term smoking I guess). AND even better - I can light that fire sans extraneous lighter fluid etc that tends to taint the coals, the food.

And I dearly miss my cookers that are in storage. <sniff> Yeah I have a gen-air grill to do a quick job, but it's just not the same :(

DanteB
05-28-09, 10:33 PM
Here are some pictures from some BBQ's I've done
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w210/DanteBpb/GettingStarted.jpg
Getting started cooking 9 turkeys for Thanksgiving.

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w210/DanteBpb/LookingGood2.jpg
The birds almost done.

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w210/DanteBpb/LungRide006.jpg
Tri-tip and chicken for 75 after a ride.

wolfpack
05-28-09, 10:35 PM
dang...i need to come that way for T-day!!!! :)

patentcad
05-28-09, 10:36 PM
My wife gets me ribs from Omaha Steaks. Does that count?

DanteB
05-28-09, 10:43 PM
dang...i need to come that way for T-day!!!! :)

Anytime Wolfie! I started with mesquite, then as I put the birds on I threw half a bucket of oakwood chunks on that had been soaked overnight in Cabernet Sauvignon. When I turned them I threw the other half on and near the end a little garlic salt and pepper.

wolfpack
05-28-09, 10:45 PM
sounds delicious!!! :)

DanteB
05-28-09, 10:49 PM
sounds delicious!!! :)

You talking about the BBQ or me?:innocent:

wolfpack
05-28-09, 10:50 PM
guess i better be talkin' 'bout the bbq, eh? ;)

DanteB
05-28-09, 10:55 PM
guess i better be talkin' 'bout the bbq, eh? ;)

I better quit while I'm ahead. I need to get back to work, what are you doing up sooooo late?

Airwick
05-28-09, 10:58 PM
You talking about the BBQ or me?:innocent:


I guess I had better quit while I'm ahead

Too late, amigo.

wolfpack
05-28-09, 10:59 PM
I better quit while I'm ahead. I need to get back to work, what are you doing up sooooo late?

:lol: why am i up so late....ummm, waiting on Airwick to get home and call me...

DanteB
05-28-09, 11:02 PM
:lol: why am i up so late....ummm, waiting on Airwick to get home and call me...

I just love good banter! :lol: Good night.

botto
05-29-09, 04:20 AM
Oh, I beg to differ...


One Bacon Explosion - Outer bacon wrap packed with ground sausage, cooked bacon, and BBQ sauce, smoked for ~3hrs at 225F in the smoker, fired with hickory wood...

no wonder you got so fat.

sknhgy
05-29-09, 06:28 AM
The birds and the sausage roll make my mouth water.

Back on the topic. I've seen people throw their trash in the fire while food is cooking. Nice to grill over a burning cig pack or syrofoam plate or melting beer cans. I once went to a weenie roast where the fire was made with painted scrap lumber.
I think Ralph Nader needs to get involved with this.

skijor
05-29-09, 06:37 AM
Back on the topic. I've seen people throw their trash in the fire while food is cooking. Nice to grill over a burning cig pack or styrofoam plate or melting beer cans. I once went to a weenie roast where the fire was made with painted scrap lumber.
I think Ralph Nader needs to get involved with this.

That's insane!
Why not toss some creosote-soaked railroad ties into the smoker for that extra special something? :rolleyes:

SonataInFSharp
05-29-09, 07:49 AM
I just toss some chicken into the crockpot, puree it, and feed it to the baby. :)

couch_incident
05-29-09, 08:53 AM
Uh-K - have to take a little control here, as yes - I can bbq - and yes I prefer a nice slow schmoking charcoal/wood fire to schmoke the stuff (if I intend on a long term smoking I guess). AND even better - I can light that fire sans extraneous lighter fluid etc that tends to taint the coals, the food.

And I dearly miss my cookers that are in storage. <sniff> Yeah I have a gen-air grill to do a quick job, but it's just not the same :(

Tude, will you marry me? None of my many ex-wives could bbq or cook or satisfy my lust for couches.

Couch

Ka_Jun
05-29-09, 12:29 PM
Brats and burgers is NOT BBQ.

I BBQ'd a TriTip (the dry rub was my own concoction) today for my wife's birthday. I started it at 6am. The smoker was kept at a nice constant 210 degrees for 10 hours. By that time the internal temp of the meat had come up to, and past the 190 degree plateau. At that point it was done and needed to be wrapped in foil and allowed to rest for an hour so it wouldn't dry out.

Pulled it and served on soft rolls with pickles and red onion. Sauce is optional.

Pork shoulders (what I usually make) and beef brisket also do exceptionally well cooked like this. But she wanted TriTip, and it was her birthday.

Now that's BBQ.

Pulled pork...awwwwwww yeah... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OG_6CopW9GQ)

malpag3
05-29-09, 12:59 PM
Yep +1 for Brazilians. Churrasco or Churrascarias will destroy you. Bourdain was in SP once and did a decent job showing it.

I lived in Brazil for quite some time and it almost destroyed me. Picanha owns.

Back to OP. It's hard to interject with other people controlling BBQs. This is how wars start.

http://images.teamsugar.com/files/users/1/15259/22_2007/IMG_2554.preview.JPG

sknhgy
05-29-09, 02:42 PM
Malpag3 said, "Back to OP. It's hard to interject with other people controlling BBQs. This is how wars start."

Thank you for understanding. Cookouts are by nature a festive occasion and you don't want to be a wet rag by pointing out some of these behaviors.
Sometimes I just fill up on potato salad.

Ed in GA
05-29-09, 02:44 PM
Brats and burgers?? LOL I thought you said somthing a bout bbq!

In some parts of the world, BBQ is something you eat. In other parts, BBQ is something you do.

RichinPeoria
05-29-09, 02:44 PM
Yep +1 for Brazilians. Churrasco or Churrascarias will destroy you. Bourdain was in SP once and did a decent job showing it.

I lived in Brazil for quite some time and it almost destroyed me. Picanha owns.

Back to OP. It's hard to interject with other people controlling BBQs. This is how wars start.

http://images.teamsugar.com/files/users/1/15259/22_2007/IMG_2554.preview.JPG

Me too.....

and I can make bbq (and churrasco) as well as just about any restaurant can.

malpag3
05-29-09, 02:55 PM
Me too.....

and I can make bbq (and churrasco) as well as just about any restaurant can.

Mmmm have me over! I haven't found a butcher that can order the cut code for picanha yet.

Did you build a churrasco or do you just use a regular bbq? I need your secrets!! I would give anything to be able to walk over to my favorite churassco and pay less than $10 for a great steak dinner for two like I used to.


Malpag3 said, "Back to OP. It's hard to interject with other people controlling BBQs. This is how wars start."

Thank you for understanding. Cookouts are by nature a festive occasion and you don't want to be a wet rag by pointing out some of these behaviors.
Sometimes I just fill up on potato salad.

Also, commenting on someones fire build usually provokes the same outrage. I usually find that people who say "Oh I was in Boyscouts, and I can build the best fire" are wrong. It's usually the quiet humble folks who do the best jobs at various things.

RichinPeoria
05-29-09, 03:21 PM
Mmmm have me over! I haven't found a butcher that can order the cut code for picanha yet.

Did you build a churrasco or do you just use a regular bbq? I need your secrets!! I would give anything to be able to walk over to my favorite churassco and pay less than $10 for a great steak dinner for two like I used to.

.

Cook over a hot charcoal fire, use alot of coarse sea salt on both sides just before you grill (I get this from Brazil or Portugal) and only flip the meat once or twice. You should burn the fat. Thats where the flavor is.

Picanha is rumpsteak with a different cut. We use the cut called "Acem" in Portuguese (chuck roast). What you get at Sam's club works well. Get it well marbled and cut the roasts into 1" thick steaks That cut has alot of flavor and if you cook it hot and fast it will be tender. Dark brown outside and just a little bloody inside (rare or med rare). Let it rest for 5 minutes on the cutting board covered in aluminum foil before serving.

Most of the expensive cuts in US beef have much less flavor. The cows in Brazil do alot more walking around thant the cattle in the US and their diet in different. They are also "Brahma" and not the same breed we have here all that equals more flavor.

My wife is Brazilian. She makes the beans, rice and salads, Ill cook chicken legs/thighs, pork steaks, beef and fresh sausages.
My wife says our meat is better than Master Grill or Fogo de Chao in Sao Paulo. You cant beat the 20+ salads and the deserts those places have though....Im hungry

malpag3
05-29-09, 03:27 PM
Cook over a hot charcoal fire, use alot of coarse sea salt on both sides just before you grill (I get this from Brazil or Portugal) and only flip the meat once or twice. You should burn the fat. Thats where the flavor is.

Picanha is rumpsteak with a different cut. We use the cut call "Acem" in Portuguese (chuck roast). What you get at Sam's club works well. Get it well marbled and cut the roasts into 1" thick steaks That cut has alot of flavor and if you cook it hot and fast it will be tender. Dark browm outside and just a little bloody inside (rare or med rare). Let it rest for 5 minutes on the cutting board covered in aluminum foil before serving.

Most of the expensive cuts in US beef have much less flavor. The cows in Brazil do alot more walking around thant the cattle in the US and their diet in different. They are also "Brahma" and not the same breed we have here all that equals more flavor.

My wife is Brazilian. She makes the beans, rice and salads, Ill cook chicken legs/thighs, pork steaks, beef and fresh sausages.
My wife says our meat is better than Master Grill or Fogo de Chao in Sao Paulo. You cant beat the 20+ salads and the deserts those places have though....Im hungry


Word. I actually found a USDA butchers code for apparently the closest cut you can get picanha, but I will give it a shot. I'm having a moving party BBQ soon that I wanted to try a churassco at so I might be shooting you some more PMs.

Obrigado demais cara.

tou com fome tambem!

RichinPeoria
05-29-09, 03:29 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3077/3138917124_27f80343cf_b.jpg

malpag3
05-29-09, 03:31 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3077/3138917124_27f80343cf_b.jpg

Nossa senhora! Stop, you're making me drool on my keyboard!!!

RichinPeoria
05-29-09, 03:34 PM
Word. I actually found a USDA butchers code for apparently the closest cut you can get picanha, but I will give it a shot. I'm having a moving party BBQ soon that I wanted to try a churassco at so I might be shooting you some more PMs.

Obrigado demais cara.

tou com fome tambem!

Glad I could help.