Recreational Cyclocross and Gravelbiking - Lightweight Wheelset for Salsa La Cruz for 350.00
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So, I'm trying to do a Salsa La Cruz commuter/light trail build for as little money as possible but without skimping on the goods. I've been trying to find one used in size 57 and that's proven to be quite difficult, so I might have to bite the bullet and buy the frame set new.
With that said, I don't want to skimp on the wheels. I want something light and strong. I've been leaning towards buying something used but am nervous about buying used wheels sight unseen. I did some research on the Mavic TN 719 Disc rims and they seemed like a good choice. But before I go into that, do you think that with my price point I'm **** out of luck for a *new* quality, lightweight wheelset? I'd be willing to piece something together over time.
Also, I'd ideally like to use the same wheels on a 29er. Would it be possible to switch them out with the same rotors if I ran Avids on both bikes and used the same cassette?
I'm just looking for someone to shine some light on the subject as I'm starting to feel like this is going to be a bit too expensive.
Thanks for any help!
05-31-09, 08:02 PM
Well.. I don't have much advice to offer except that buying used (or even new) wheels off ebay or craiglist is pretty safe. I purchased several over the years at huge discounts and never had a problem.
That's good to hear as I found a wheelset on Ebay that I'll hopefully own tomorrow. Thanks.
05-31-09, 08:37 PM
You can use 29er wheels with a 135mm spacing. What size tire?
That's the plan. The Salsa La Cruz can take up to a 44.
05-31-09, 09:16 PM
you should be able to get some built up within your budget. I would consider the mavics you suggested, the salsa delgado cross, or sun cr-18's. all will be good rims, and in the order listed go from mtb suitable down to more cross specific (the suns will be a bit too wide for 23's, but anything larger than a 25 or 28 will pose no problem).
something with XT hubs and a good rim should be less $350 as built up.
just checked colorado cyclist, and a set of tn-719 laced to xt 775 hubs are 330 brand new, completely hand built. (15% off if you order tonight).
bicyclewheelwarehouse.com has them for $223 with XT hubs (non-centerlock version, other hubs are available within your budget). i got my fixed gear wheels from them (mavic CXP-22's to formula hubs), they were properly tensioned and even came with a few freebies. I rode them for 6 months on the road, only needing a truing once. since then, bike was converted to CX duty and put on some 37's, and ride on and off road, and I have bent the rim in a few mm, but they weren't quite designed for this use.
any more questions, feel free to PM me.
Thanks for the post That's a good deal. I'm watching some American Classics on Ebay hoping they won't go too high. We'll see. Have another guy who said he will sell me a set for 400 if the other guy wanting to buy them backs out. If all of that fails, I might spring for the Mavics.
Could anyone comment on the ability to transfer these wheels back and forth from a legit 29er to the La Cruz? I of course would like to keep the same rotors on and I'll be running a mountain cassette on the La Cruz.
05-31-09, 09:31 PM
only problem you will run into as far as switching the wheels between a 29er and cross bike would be the gears. as long as the CX bike is 9 speed, and so is your mtb, there will be no problem. however, if you go 10 speed on the CX, there currently is no 10 speed mtb shifter that would be compatable.
your options would be new tiagra, last generation 105 9-speed, or 2-3 generation old ultegra and dura-ace- which would predate 2002, making it quite hard to track down replacement parts).
Awesome, I'm already on the right path. I have front and rear Ultegra 9 spd and have been shopping for a set of 105 shifters. I'm so excited about the ability to do that. It will save me a lot of money, although I do worry that I'll screw up the wheels while riding the MTB, but whatever.
Will the Avid BB-7 road disc brake rotors be interchangable with other disc brakes on the MTB?
05-31-09, 10:22 PM
the brakes themselves will not be compatible with mtb levers, but as long as you are running the same size rotors on both bikes front/front and rear/rear you will be fine. brakes themselves don't care about what they are squeezing, as long as its there in the right diameter.
i have only test ridden the la cruz, but id be tempted to go with a 180mm rotor up front and 160 out back, for ease of interchangability for the 29er. my friend overheated his 160's quite regularly on long decents, and switched to 180s for better fade resistence and more power.
It sounds like you know what you're talking about so I'm going to do exactly that. Thanks!
What did you think about the ride?
Bidding went too high, as usual. Back to the drawing board. I really want a set of American Classics!
The new XT hubs are nice. I'm using Ultegra laced to Salsa Delgado Cross right now, built buy an expert wheelbuilder. Super bomber, but not particularly light. The wide profile is great, but I can still run 23mm tires, though they have a different profile than they do on standard width road rims.
If you want light, you'll want some narrow road rims. But then, they may be too narrow to use as 29er wheels. So to choose the rim width that will work, what width range of tires will you be running?
I'd ideally like to run something like 28 - 44. Would that be possible? I'm fairly new to all of this jargon. Thanks.
A standard road rim will be fine, which gives you lots of options if you want lightweight. The delgado cross will give the larger off road tires a better profile, but it isn't needed. I run 45mm tires on standard road rims and it works fine, though I wouldn't want to go much bigger.
I'd like the option of running tubeless and Salsa strongly recommends against running tubeless with the Delgados. Keep in mind that I'd like to use these same wheels on a 29er. Makes it a bit tricky!
Would I have any trouble running a size 28 on American Classics?
You keep saying you want to use it on a 29er but you also said that you want to run a max tire size of 44mm? 44mm is less than 1.8inches wide: narrower than even the skinniest true mountain bike tires.
What rim width are the American Classics?
I can't find information on the rim width. I'm new to all of this. Should I be able to run something skinny enough to commute on?
I think I read that it's 22mm.
I found a set of American Classics from 07' for 300.00. The guy selling them said he ran 25mm tires on the rims. They're going to be perfect.
06-06-09, 05:34 PM
the ride of the la cruz was a bit on the stiff side for steel, but not overly so. its designed as a rugged bike, and was stiff in a sprint. i only got a parking lot test ride of about 10 minutes, and compared it to the specialized tricross aluminum version. the tricross was a more muted ride. i wish i had longer to test them.
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