Folding Bikes - MKS EZ are not safe without the plastic clips

Today I proved to myself that MKS EZ pedals are unsafe without those plastic clips.
Two weeks ago I started to experiment using the EZ pedals without the plastic clips (and making positively sure before each ride that the pedals are properly locked). Well, today after 2 miles of so, the right pedal came loose.

I am using MKS EZ Promenade with Power Grips but apparently the shoe has enough lateral play to push in the metal locking ring.

BTW, I heard that MKS came with a new model of EZ pedals that do not use the plastic clips. Any info on the new model?

Kam

I have a pair of the MKS EZY superior "Esprit" pedals. They do not need the plastic clips, the retention device is spring loaded and returns to position so that no clip is needed.

So far, I find them highly enjoyable. The retention system is very secure, and there is no danger of losing any little plastic collars. One downside is that they were difficult to install, the space behind the collar was not enough to slip a pedal wrench behind, and I had 3 in the shop to try it with :)

I eventually installed them using a cone wrench and shimming the handle out to pedal wrench length. This is practical so long as you can take care not to bend the cone wrench, and to have it well seated before starting - they are not nearly as robust as pedal wrenches.

How big are your feet? I use to use them on my Dahon Mu C9 without the yellow clips and I never had any problems. My feet are size 8.5 so maybe I have small feet....

I have smallish feet also (11 in men's) and have had no problems in 400 miles. I tend to pronate (turn my feet out) pretty heavily when I ride, so that make a difference. I saw a tip somewhere that you can use fishing line to tie the clips on.

MKS Promenade Ezy + Power Grips, one year without plastic clips and never an accidental release. I do have the power grips set up very tight, though.

I ran without the clips for a year with the Damon MU SL without any problems (well not with the pedals anyway).

usually not to much grumbling is heard about accidential release without the black or yellow split rings.... however we do have extra rings and also the new superior pedals in stock

Thor

http://www.thorusa.com/dahon/accessories/pedals.htm#promenade

"MKS Promenade Ezy + Power Grips, one year without plastic clips and never an accidental release." Same here.

AR-2 EZY
First tried them without the clips and the right pedal came loose
Came loose however is not the same as coming right off and it did not cause a big problem, I just stopped, snapped it in put the clips on and carried on.
Used clips for about a month then eventually lost one
Have run without clips since then (couple of months) with zero problems
The retention collar was initially a bit stiff and I suspect that my initial problem may have been that either I didn't get it locked in properly or I bumped it and it was too stiff to snap back into place.
Bottom line: They seem OK without the clips provide you make sure that they are properly snapped in but you may need to take a bit of care initially.
David

I've had an MKS EZY QR pedal come off within the first hourwhen I tried it without the clips. I went back to using the clips.

i used to use toe cages and straps, and the pedals would come off every time I used them without the clips.
installed powergrips recently, and have completely stopped using the clips, with zero accidental releases.
so go figure....

Am a MKS user too (AR2 EZY), with no [accidental release] problems to date.

Recently saw the new design with spring loading. Maybe they were stiff, but it was a little irritating rotating the sleeve and getting the set screw into the notch. I think there could have been a better way to do this?

Am curious what the long term assessment will be of the new design - if it's too sensitive for dirt getting in, how well it will turn after a while, etc. Doesnt seem like necessary to pay an extra $20 or more for the design -the pedals already aren't inexpensive.

ps - does anyone know if there's a real weight limit to the pedals? As they have a very small shaft that goes into the hole, does that mean certain weights are no good?