Electronics, Lighting, & Gadgets - Looking for a Light mount...

Okay, I've been reading, and looking, and looking some more.. I've accepted that flashlights work best and I already have a pretty awesome flashlight I would like to mount to my bike, but I have yet to find the mount for it. Anyone have an idea of someplace I can buy a flashlight mount for a http://www.surefire.com/G2-Led ?? I swear by Surefires, and this is just a lower end one of their LED's rated @ 80 lumens, plenty bright for night riding IMO, but I'll have a better idea after I've ridden for a bit to figure out the speed I would be riding at, and whether or not I'll need a brighter (reason for a new one :thumb:) surefire. Most are about the same diameter, so I figure anything with a dual rubber coating would be great, protect my new carbon fiber road bike and flashlight as well.

And if any of you have any knowledge of Surefires and how they compare to other High Performance lights, let me know of your experiences.. just in case something might just be better (doubtful but there may be like a .00012% chance.. heh).. then again maybe theres a better light for biking.. don't know.

try www.dealextreme.com

There's a few mounts on this page: http://www.dealextreme.com/products.dx/category.915

I've tried most of them.

This mount (sku 8274)

http://www1.dealextreme.com/productimages/sku_8274_4_small.jpg

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.8274

Is very well recommended and although I haven't tried it myself, lots of people on here seem to like it greatly.

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This one (sku 792)

http://www1.dealextreme.com/productimages/sku_0792_1_thumb.jpg

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.792

I have tried, but I wasn't as impressed with.

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This one (sku 15342)

http://www1.dealextreme.com/productimages/sku_15342_2_small.jpg

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.15342

I've got a few of these and they work great, especially on smaller (AA) torches and if you want a bit of left/right adjustment. This one may well be the best choice for you. I've also modified them and used one half of the clamp on my HID project (see my signature) :)

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This one (sku 13004)

http://www1.dealextreme.com/productimages/sku_13004_2_small.jpg

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.13004

Is of course the famous Fenix mount. Probably better suited to medium sized torches rather than small torches, I use one of these on my seatpost with one of DX's amazing high power red LED torches.

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This one (sku 15642)

http://www1.dealextreme.com/productimages/sku_15642_4_small.jpg

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.15642

Is great for larger torches, it's robust and lightweight and works very well with my P7 torch.

I've tried a couple of other mounts from DX, but as they no longer seem to be on the site, there isn't much point in recommending them.

All in all there's a fair choice of torch mounts on DX and having tried most of them I can honestly say that many of them are very good.

If one of the mounts I've described looks like it might suit you, just ask on here if it's any good and you'll get feedback from other people who have tried them.

Also, the prices include postage :thumb:

BTW. 80 lumens isn't really very much....

Having tried some of the DX mounts and also Two Fish mounts, I can say that Two Fish mounts are a far better product in every way.

As for the light, SureFires aren't nearly as bright as other lights currently being made, and also they don't accept 18650 batteries, which offer much better runtime than CR123 or whatever the SF runs off of.

lockblocks can be bought from usa dealer fenixstore for 7.50 or get a 3 pack for 16.00.. 80 lumen output is pretty weak compared to what is available on the market today.. A Q5 cree can usually put out 200+ lumens while the stronger P7 or MC-e leds are in the 500+ lumen output range..

https://www.fenix-store.com/product_info.php?cPath=92&products_id=273

https://www.fenix-store.com/product_info.php?cPath=92&products_id=274

Make your own....

1. use two interlocking hose clamps ...or

2. Look at this idea using two conduit clamps.

http://nordicgroup.us/s78/flashlights.html

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.8274

I have four of these, and just ordered two more.

You can fit them on wider seat tubes than the screw

would allow if you use a zip tie instead.

Two Fish Lockblocks all the way. I've used and discarded just about all the others. The only other mount that's worth a rat's is a Mawri Mount but you have to figure out how to secure the slide-out part to your light. This is a good place to get Mawri Mounts: http://www.el34world.com/Misc/bike/BikesLights7.htm

Two Fish Lockblocks will fit Surefire G-2's, P-6's and any other smaller diameter flashlights. I have several Surefires but they all stay home where they're safe. I tried them on the bike, but they're not bright enough even for my 10-12mph nighttime speeds.

I use two lockblocks on the handlebars with Crees and one on the fork holding a P7, underslung on a Minoura Fork Mount at the same level as the hub. Makes a great "to see" light at night or a strobe during the day. The Minoura mount allows lateral adjustment and the lockblock adjusts vertically. Plus, it looks pretty cool.

Do yourself a favor and don't even risk your G-2 on your bike. Keep it on your boat or in your camping gear and spring for a $25-30 Cree or P7.

The conduit clamp idea works but it's pretty bulky and ugly, and requires a wrench to take your light off your bike. That becomes a real PITA after a while. For a real low budget solution, you'd be better off with the innertube method.


Minoura fork mount:

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.8274

I have four of these, and just ordered two more.

You can fit them on wider seat tubes than the screw

would allow if you use a zip tie instead.

What light do you use that with? I've found them too tight for lights that take 18650 batteries, and far too loose for AA cells. They have been totally useless in my experience.

What light do you use that with? I've found them too tight for lights that take 18650 batteries, and far too loose for AA cells. They have been totally useless in my experience.

I use it for my MTE 2-mode p7 (1x18650) and it fit very tight at first and now it's just tight. Which is fine by me!

x1 on the ziptie mount, I run slightly oversize handle bars on my commuter and I tossed out the rubber spacer and screw/nut and just used a strong ziptie threaded through the holes.

What light do you use that with? I've found them too tight for lights that take 18650 batteries, and far too loose for AA cells. They have been totally useless in my experience.

My front: http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.13060
My back: http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.20333

I use the conduit clamps with my Taskforce C cells, and they work great. Total adjustability, very strong with a heavy light.

I have only used the TwoFish lock blocks to mount lights to my bars and helmet. I have been very satisfied. I have three different lights, a single 18650 P7, a 3 x AAA led and a 2 x AA led, and they all work very well with the lockblock mounts.

i'm using the same ones, simply awesome, cheap affordable, and it gets the job done.

by the way i'm even using them UP SIDE DOWN, and it has never let my P4 fall down.

To change batteries i have to manually rip it off, and ply it apart, the holder it's that good :thumb:


There's a few mounts on this page: http://www.dealextreme.com/products.dx/category.915

I've tried most of them.

This mount (sku 8274)

http://www1.dealextreme.com/productimages/sku_8274_4_small.jpg

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.8274

Is very well recommended and although I haven't tried it myself, lots of people on here seem to like it greatly.
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i'm using the same ones, simply awesome, cheap affordable, and it gets the job done.

by the way i'm even using them UP SIDE DOWN, and it has never let my P4 fall down.

To change batteries i have to manually rip it off, and ply it apart, the holder it's that good :thumb:

What about if you lock up on the street? Do you have to 'ply it apart' too? Sounds like a PITA if you need to take the light on and off regularly.

DX 13004 - the Fenix mount. Downside: rattles like blazes as the top and bottom sections are not a tight fit, and can't be tightened. I ended up epoxying them togther, then scrapped it in favour of 15342 -- cheaper and better. Recommended.

noting all of the above, 1. thanks, 2. in regards to Cree lights vs Surefires... What happened to Surefire? I thought that they were supposed to be one of the best tactical light makers out there? anyways, if i start to look into getting a different flashlight, what are the recommended ones? fenix? crees? what models etc?

and those batteries, where can you get them from?

noting all of the above, 1. thanks, 2. in regards to Cree lights vs Surefires... What happened to Surefire? I thought that they were supposed to be one of the best tactical light makers out there? anyways, if i start to look into getting a different flashlight, what are the recommended ones? fenix? crees? what models etc?

and those batteries, where can you get them from?

http://www1.dealextreme.com/productimages/sku_5790_1_small.jpg

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.5790

http://www1.dealextreme.com/productimages/sku_1251_1_thumb.jpg

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.1251

If you'd like to browse the torches on DX:

http://www.dealextreme.com/

Click on Flashlights/Lamps on the left or use the search.

:thumb:

^^^

That charger from DX is known to have serious problems and really shouldn't be trusted as there have been counterfeit ones bought from DX that overcharge to dangerous levels. Check out the comments (not the reviews as they only post positive ones) on the sale page for more info.

There are US based sellers who sell the same charger which to my knowledge don't have the same issues as the DX ones.

noting all of the above, 1. thanks, 2. in regards to Cree lights vs Surefires... What happened to Surefire? I thought that they were supposed to be one of the best tactical light makers out there? anyways, if i start to look into getting a different flashlight, what are the recommended ones? fenix? crees? what models etc?

and those batteries, where can you get them from?

Surefire has a loyal following amongst many folks on CPF, largely I suspect due to the fact that they are made in the US and supply the military and police. While I'm sure they are a high quality product, for shear light output there are many other options. Personally I've been quite impressed with the quality, output, and price of SolarForce lights. They can be bought from either US vendors or directly from Hong Kong. One nice thing about them is that they take a P60 (SureFire style) drop-in, which means that you can easily change the LED to a more powerful one as technology changes.

That charger from DX is known to have serious problems and really shouldn't be trusted as there have been counterfeit ones bought from DX that overcharge to dangerous levels

What a crock.

It has been alleged that some are copies, not proved.

Besides, the chargers under accusation were bought years ago FFS - one of them was bought in 1996 !!!!

I've looked at those tests and most of them are deeply flawed, the off load voltage has NOTHING to do with the charge voltage.

What a crock.

It has been alleged that some are copies, not proved.

Besides, the chargers under accusation were bought years ago FFS - one of them was bought in 1996 !!!!

I've looked at those tests and most of them are deeply flawed, the off load voltage has NOTHING to do with the charge voltage.

I know that you are a DX 'fan boy' and think that they can do no wrong, but actually take the time to read the post about this charger from DX on the DX message board. There are current posts regarding this charger.

If the same charger, known not to be counterfeit, is available for a similar price why risk it with DX?

Unthinking adoration of a company does no one any good, especially when it comes to possibly dangerous goods. I've bought plenty of stuff from DX over the years, I even placed an order with them yesterday, but I certainly don't trust anything from them connected to the mains, especially after others have had problems with the same product. I'm not so cheap as to try and save three or four dollars on an iffy product.

From the DX Message Board.

Subject: Solid red led for 5 Hours
no1john Tuesday, May 12, 2009 8:17 AM Reply
I am using this charger with a pair of new Trustfire 18650 2400mAh 3.7v Li-on protected batterys. The battery's seem to ship charged but I placed one in the charger and it is showing a solid red(no flickering to green) led even after 5 hours of charging, Is this normal? I placed the second battery in my torch and left it on for 2 hours to drain some power from it, I then placed the partialy drained battery into the charge and it also shows a solid red led (no flickering). How can i tell if it is charging? Should it not flicker green as other people have said? The charge shows a solid green led without battery inserted and changes to solid red when battery is in place.Can anyone help explain this. Thanks

captjimjam Moderator Tuesday, May 12, 2009 8:50 AM Reply
Do you have a multimeter to hand, to measure the battery voltage?

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no1john Tuesday, May 12, 2009 9:18 AM Reply
No multimeter unfortunatly, Im'e begining to think the charger will never show a green led for when a battery is charged


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theborg Tuesday, May 12, 2009 12:59 PM Reply
I received my charger today and, like you, after a couple of hours, the two leds were still red. I unplugged the charger, remove one battery, put it back in, replug the charger and the two leds were green...

You might try to unplug and replug the charger.

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gazzag94 Tuesday, May 12, 2009 1:16 PM Reply
You might try to unplug and replug the charger.

Yeah. Always works for me when my AA/AAA/9V charger remains Green after swapping charged batteries for empty batteries.

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no1john Tuesday, May 12, 2009 1:21 PM Reply
Thanks for the tip's, the charger is now displaying a green led after 6 hours of charging battery. At no time did it flicker green so i guess they must of changed the spec of the charger.

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gazzag94 Tuesday, May 12, 2009 1:22 PM Reply
It should be fine now, as long as you remember to unplug after every full charge. At least that's what I do.

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GrAnd Tuesday, May 12, 2009 2:01 PM Reply
The latest batches seems to have cheaper circuit which does charge with lowering current instead of CC/CV. That means it is not blinking while charging and takes more time to charge. So, it behaves in the same way as TrustFire TR-001 does. Here is the charging graph (from TR-001 though; As WF-139 is a little bit more powerful, the time should be shorter)

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/5915/vaavg.th.png
img src: http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/5915/vaavg.th.png


Large picture - http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/5915/vaavg.png

Green leds just indicate when the current reaches some level. The actual charging is continuing actually (with low(ering) current).

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no1john Tuesday, May 12, 2009 2:06 PM Reply
would it be safe to use this charger with unprotected cell's? would it stop charging at at the correct limit for battery


http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.1251

I know that you are a DX 'fan boy' and think that they can do no wrong, but actually take the time to read the post about this charger from DX on the DX message board. There are current posts regarding this charger.

LOL @ 'fan boy'

Nearly all the reviews are positive (I read them before buying) and equally nearly everyone that has one is happy with it.

So, in reality I'm just reflecting the average user.

I bought one and it's superb, several of my friends have them and they all use them very happily.

It isn't a case of me being a 'fan boy' it's just a case of honest representation.

A very small whining minority can easily cause a good company or good product to look very bad, simply because the 99% of happy purchasers don't make as much fuss as the whiners.

So to be fair, if you want a level playing field, let people that have had positive experiences speak about them without you attacking their every accurate observation.

:thumb:

ps. there's still no evidence whatsoever of any of the chargers being 'counterfeit' ;)

LOL @ 'fan boy'

Nearly all the reviews are positive (I read them before buying) and equally nearly everyone that has one is happy with it.

So, in reality I'm just reflecting the average user.

I bought one and it's superb, several of my friends have them and they all use them very happily.

It isn't a case of me being a 'fan boy' it's just a case of honest representation.

A very small whining minority can easily cause a good company or good product to look very bad, simply because the 99% of happy purchasers don't make as much fuss as the whiners.

So to be fair, if you want a level playing field, let people that have had positive experiences speak about them without you attacking their every accurate observation.

:thumb:

ps. there's still no evidence whatsoever of any of the chargers being 'counterfeit' ;)

The reason that all the reviews are good is because DX doesn't post any negative reviews. :rolleyes: I've gotten several peices of total rubbish quality goods from DX. When I mentioned the poor quality of their tailight mounts you replied with how great some other product you bought from them is, like that somehow changes the crap that they are selling.

As for you being a 'fan boy', whenever anything negative is said about the quality of DX goods you chime in talking about how great everything from DX is.....that sure sounds like a 'fan boy' to me. Why you refuse to admit that DX sells some rubbish is beyond me, and a disservice to all who read your posts.

As for you representing the average user, that's complete BS; the average user knows to be damn careful what they buy on DX as the specs and quality of the same product frequently change. I'm not out to bash DX, what I'm out to do is give people a fair representation of what they really are. It would be nice if you'd do the same.

Here's a DX thread on the fake charger.

https://www.dealextreme.com/forums/Forums.dx/Forum.1251~threadid.206189

Here's a DX thread on the fake charger.

https://www.dealextreme.com/forums/Forums.dx/Forum.1251~threadid.206189

Jeez..it's even pointed out in that thread that there is no evidence it's fake.

:)

Jeez..it's even pointed out in that thread that there is no evidence it's fake.

:)
There is no evidence that it's real either. It doesn't look like known real ones and doesn't work like known real ones. Sadly the photos that were there clearly pointing out the differences are no longer up.

The above coupled with the fact that DX is well known for selling counterfeit goods is enough for me not to take the risk.

I've clearly pointed out why I'm suspicious of the charger; why are you so sure it's genuine?




EDIT:Judging by some of the products they sell I'd say ethics is at the bottom of DX's list......

Electronic Power Lock Pick Gun with W/L LED Illumination
http://www1.dealextreme.com/productimages/sku_17581_1.jpg

HD Safety Disposable Medical Syringes - 1ml
http://www1.dealextreme.com/productimages/sku_22300_1.jpg

Korea-KLOM Air Pump Wedge Vehicle Entry Tool
http://www1.dealextreme.com/productimages/sku_16423_1.jpg

USB Magnetic Stripe Credit/Debit Card Track-2 Reader and Writer (75/210BPI)
http://www1.dealextreme.com/productimages/sku_17728_1.jpg

Blank Writable/Rewritable 3-Track Low Density Magnetic Stripe Cards (10-Pack)
http://www1.dealextreme.com/productimages/sku_17891_1.jpg

There is no evidence that it's real either. It doesn't look like known real ones and doesn't work like known real ones. Sadly the photos that were there clearly pointing out the differences are no longer up.

The above coupled with the fact that DX is well known for selling counterfeit goods is enough for me not to take the risk.

I've clearly pointed out why I'm suspicious of the charger; why are you so sure it's genuine?




EDIT:Judging by some of the products they sell I'd say ethics is at the bottom of DX's list......

Electronic Power Lock Pick Gun with W/L LED Illumination
http://www1.dealextreme.com/productimages/sku_17581_1.jpg

HD Safety Disposable Medical Syringes - 1ml
http://www1.dealextreme.com/productimages/sku_22300_1.jpg

Korea-KLOM Air Pump Wedge Vehicle Entry Tool
http://www1.dealextreme.com/productimages/sku_16423_1.jpg

USB Magnetic Stripe Credit/Debit Card Track-2 Reader and Writer (75/210BPI)
http://www1.dealextreme.com/productimages/sku_17728_1.jpg

Blank Writable/Rewritable 3-Track Low Density Magnetic Stripe Cards (10-Pack)
http://www1.dealextreme.com/productimages/sku_17891_1.jpg

I think you should stop now, your efforts to discredit DX are starting to make you look a bit silly.

:)

I think you should stop now, your efforts to discredit DX are starting to make you look a bit silly.

:)

As I've said before, I use DX, but one needs to be well aware of what to expect when dealing with them. This is something that you misrepresent, and I believe it's intentional. There are plenty of other people here on BF who agree with me, and hopefully they also will fully inform people new to the world of high zoot flashlights just what to expect from Chinese sellers such as DX.

As I've said before, I use DX, but one needs to be well aware of what to expect when dealing with them. This is something that you misrepresent, and I believe it's intentional. There are plenty of other people here on BF who agree with me, and hopefully they also will fully inform people new to the world of high zoot flashlights just what to expect from Chinese sellers such as DX.

I do not misrepresent anything - you do.

Obviously people should be able to make an informed choice and should be aware that DX don't always get it right, but at the same time they ship a large quantity of products and 99% of customers are very happy.

There are many, many people using P7 torches from DX who are all very happy.

By all means represent the minority, but at least try to keep it proportional, you make it sound a lot worse than it is.

I've placed 23 orders in the last year, totalling more than 50 items. One item was lost in the post and replaced by DX, another was incorrect and quickly replaced.

Almost without exception everything I've bought has been pretty good or excellent, the one item I've been unhappy with was low value and I was unhappy with it more from personal taste than any other reason.

If everyone who has bought a WF139 charger posted here saying they were happy with it, then it would be proportional and you would be entirely drowned out.

As it is you are robbing people of the opportunity make an informed choice and to get accurate feedback on the items they are considering buying.

Just to make sure it's clear, I recommend items I have bought and KNOW to be of high quality and exceptional VFM. I don't believe that there is any reason why other people wouldn't want to know that.

:)

I do not misrepresent anything - you do.

Obviously people should be able to make an informed choice and should be aware that DX don't always get it right, but at the same time they ship a large quantity of products and 99% of customers are very happy.

There are many, many people using P7 torches from DX who are all very happy.

By all means represent the minority, but at least try to keep it proportional, you make it sound a lot worse than it is.

I've placed 23 orders in the last year, totalling more than 50 items. One item was lost in the post and replaced by DX, another was incorrect and quickly replaced.

Almost without exception everything I've bought has been pretty good or excellent, the one item I've been unhappy with was low value and I was unhappy with it more from personal taste than any other reason.

If everyone who has bought a WF139 charger posted here saying they were happy with it, then it would be proportional and you would be entirely drowned out.

As it is you are robbing people of the opportunity make an informed choice and to get accurate feedback on the items they are considering buying.

Just to make sure it's clear, I recommend items I have bought and KNOW to be of high quality and exceptional VFM. I don't believe that there is any reason why other people wouldn't want to know that.

:)

By telling people of potential problems with DX I'm robbing them of the opportunity to make an informed choice? Do you know just how stupid that sounds? It might be news to you, but you aren't the only person here on BF that is able to have an informed opinion about DX and the potential problems with them.

Perhaps you have very low standards in regards to the goods you buy, perhaps you think cheaper is always better, but the fact remains that one must be careful buying things from DX, and making an informed decision about the goods you buy is difficult as often the specs and quality change from the reviews which one has read. I hope the drop-in I just ordered is decent......

P.S. I have no idea why you are going on about shipping as I haven't mentioned it at all. In fact, I've had good experiences with DX's shipping.

By telling people of potential problems with DX I'm robbing them of the opportunity to make an informed choice? Do you know just how stupid that sounds?

Not as stupid as your complete inability to grasp the fact that every time I have said PROPORTIONAL.

You are robbing other people of the opportunity to make an informed decision because you are blowing the small number of problems out of all proportion.

It's a very, very small percentage and given the opportunity DX will try to resolve any problems.

So by all means state your case, but how about keeping it realistic ?

When one person says something is good and another says it is bad it then appears to 50% to the uninformed.

However, I can't even say anything is good - regardless of the fact that I've bought it, tried it, often tested it - AND - I am trying to help another forum member - without you trying to shout me down every time.

I would have thought for the average person on here, a good recommendation from me, on an item I've bought and tried is a good thing, whereas someone badmouthing a product and digging up out of date non-relevent info from other sites is just wasting everyone's time.

Let DX be judged on what they are selling NOW and their customer service as it is NOW.

Thanks for your input, subject closed.

:)

I would have thought for the average person on here, a good recommendation from me, on an item I've bought and tried is a good thing, whereas someone badmouthing a product and digging up out of date non-relevent info from other sites is just wasting everyone's time.
Yeah, you run every thread in this area, UC. *I* made a post also trying to update people on *ALL* the facts on a light you were hyping and you also minimised that point as best you could then too. Your opinion seems very very important to you, from what I can see. I personally would never buy anything that you alone tried and liked.

To get back on topic...did the OP find a mount ?

:)

BTW. here's another mount that might interest you if you like velcro....

http://www1.dealextreme.com/productimages/sku_12000_2_small.jpg

Universal Nylon Mount for Flashlights and Lasers (http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.12000)

To get back on topic...did the OP find a mount ?

:)

BTW. here's another mount that might interest you if you like velcro....

http://www1.dealextreme.com/productimages/sku_12000_2_small.jpg

Universal Nylon Mount for Flashlights and Lasers (http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.12000)

That mount would be great if the OP needed to light up the gutter and the not the street in front of him! The light would be mounted sideways, not straight ahead.

More bad advice from the DX 'fan boy'. :thumb:

That mount would be great if the OP needed to light up the gutter and the not the street in front of him! The light would be mounted sideways, not straight ahead.

More bad advice from the DX 'fan boy'. :thumb:

You do realise that it is possible to mount a torch onto the handlebar stem ?

I'd very much appreciate it if you would stop with the snide insults, there is - quite simply - no need for it, you make yourself look foolish and immature.

TIA.

You do realise that it is possible to mount a torch onto the handlebar stem ?

I'd very much appreciate it if you would stop with the snide insults, there is - quite simply - no need for it, you make yourself look foolish and immature.

TIA.

So it points up in the air or directly down? Just how would you adjust the beam angle with that mount on a stem? Really, can't you just admit you made a mistake? For some reason this has turned personal for you. Why is that? We are talking about lights and mounts and you are all butt hurt that someone disagrees with you. And when you post ridiculous suggestions like the stem mount you aren't even man enough to admit you made a mistake.

For some reason this has turned personal for you. Why is that?

:) It's not personal for me.

Immediately I recommend anything you make a negative post about it.

This thread is evidence enough of that posts #3 and #4, posts #18 and #19, posts #35 and #36.

You are the one with a problem, I've never insulted you, yet I've lost count of the number of insults I've received from you.

As well as deliberately disagreeing with every post I make you are rude, immature and are making a complete fool of yourself.

Anyone that reads this thread can see your behavior, it's not the first time you've done it and I'm not the first person you've treated like sh1t.

I'm very sorry for you and for whatever problems that you have in your life that make you like this.

:love:

Enjoy !!

:) It's not personal for me.

Immediately I recommend anything you make a negative post about it.

This thread is evidence enough of that posts #3 and #4, posts #18 and #19, posts #35 and #36.

You are the one with a problem, I've never insulted you, yet I've lost count of the number of insults I've received from you.

As well as deliberately disagreeing with every post I make you are rude, immature and are making a complete fool of yourself.

Anyone that reads this thread can see your behavior, it's not the first time you've done it and I'm not the first person you've treated like sh1t.

I'm very sorry for you and for whatever problems that you have in your life that make you like this.

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Enjoy !!
Why are you ignoring the comments I made about the mount? I guess it is personal for you......

I don't deliberately disagree with whatever you write. Sad that you see it that way.I disagree when you tell only part of the story and refuse to acknowledge that you might have been wrong. It seems that you don't want the whole truth known about products that you like. Why is that?

Also not the only one to call you out on your biased reviews and habit of not telling the whole truth about products you like, and the nastiness you exhibit when someone disagrees with you. Other people see it too.

Why are you ignoring the comments I made about the mount? I guess it is personal for you......

I don't deliberately disagree with whatever you write. Sad that you see it that way.I disagree when you tell only part of the story and refuse to acknowledge that you might have been wrong. It seems that you don't want the whole truth known about products that you like. Why is that?

Also not the only one to call you out on your biased reviews and habit of not telling the whole truth about products you like, and the nastiness you exhibit when someone disagrees with you. Other people see it too.

And yet you are the one repeatedly being insulting and mocking.

You accuse me of taking your attacks personally - yet YOU are the one getting personal.

Grow up. Accept that other people have different opinions from you.

Can we let the OP make his own mind up ?

I expect you've rubbished DX to the point where he won't consider buying perfectly good products from them, so if you've nothing left to accomplish can we move on ?

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And yet you are the one repeatedly being insulting and mocking.

You accuse me of taking your attacks personally - yet YOU are the one getting personal.

Grow up. Accept that other people have different opinions from you.

Can we let the OP make his own mind up ?

I expect you've rubbished DX to the point where he won't consider buying perfectly good products from them, so if you've nothing left to accomplish can we move on ?

:)

Have you even read what I've written? I mentioned in this very thread that I just placed an order with DX! Do you see the world in black and white or something?

If you don't need to remove flashlights, then you can make a perfectly adequate holder from stuff in your house.

I have 2 lights mounted on bar as follows:

1. cut an old rubber bar grip in half. mount one part to left of stem, other one on the right side. this provides vibration-dampening base for lights. rattling breaks circuits, either electrically or physically.

2. wrap several turns of duct tape around light. again, for vibration isolation, plus give two flexible surface which can bend and mate to each other better.

3. place light on bar. take 2 plastic electrical tie straps, aka zip ties, join them so you have plenty of length. attach light to bar dinotte-style with the zip ties, cinch down pretty tight. trim. position zip tie joints to reduce likelihood of cutting yourself on the sharp ends, also improve looks.

so, bar grip + duct tape + zip ties + some time.

it works and looks at least as good as all the usual mounting devices you can buy - except that its not easy to remove light.

it works and looks at least as good as all the usual mounting devices you can buy - except that its not easy to remove light.

How about when you need to change the batteries ?

Have you even read what I've written? I mentioned in this very thread that I just placed an order with DX! Do you see the world in black and white or something?

Yes, I do indeed see the world in black and white.

YOU resort to snide deriding name calling 'fan-boy' (when you aren't calling me a prick for no reason) then you have the nerve to accuse me of taking things personally - which I would be quite right to do.

When the question of whether a DX product works well and is value for money, you mention lock picks, syringes, air pumps and swipe cards - what do they have to do with lighting ?

Why are you so desperate to rubbish DX ?

Yes, I do indeed see the world in black and white.
That explains a lot.


Why are you so desperate to rubbish DX ?
I'm not out to rubbish them; hell, I use them myself. What I'm out to do is paint a fair picture of them, warts and all. This is something which you refuse to do, and clearly will not be able to do with a black and white view of the world......

That explains a lot.

YOU resort to snide deriding name calling 'fan-boy' (when you aren't calling me a prick for no reason) then you have the nerve to accuse me of taking things personally - which I would be quite right to do.

When the question of whether a DX product works well and is value for money, you mention lock picks, syringes, air pumps and swipe cards - what do they have to do with lighting ?

When the question of whether a DX product works well and is value for money, you mention lock picks, syringes, air pumps and swipe cards - what do they have to do with lighting ?

Re-read the thread again for the context.

Re-read the thread again for the context.

What's the point ?

It's not going to stop you being rude and insulting or bullying anyone who doesn't agree with you.

Is it ?

I'm a prick..ok got it.

Fan-boy the prick.

You know..this forum isn't here just for you.

You know..this forum isn't here just for you.
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Wow, that's rich coming from you!!