Road Cycling - IRC Channels

Are there any IRC channels that are the equivalent of this forum? Thanks

Lets just pick a server and make our own room.

IRC? jeez, i thought _I was old!

lol it stands for internet relay chat. Its like YAHOO! chat or AOL chat but you download a program to get onto a server. Webchat is a server and DALnet is a server. Lots of channels to just hang out and talk about what ever.

if we can find an efnet server or something, we can make #bikeforums !

keep me posted...this sounds like a good idea

guys, remember last year with the online java client (for IRC) that was great! I'm up for bringing it back, and would develop a new client if you all wanted one.

I used to run IRC servers (admin'ed EFnet's irc.umich.edu for quite a while). I also used to develop IRC-related software and was on the EPIC IRC client development team as well as the hybrid IRC server development team. If someone wants help/advice setting up a standalone server then let me know. It is unlikely that you'll be able to get a link into EFnet though without a substantial prospective userbase and/or a valuable network topology location.

I have been using IRC since I was 12 yrs old and Im now 21, I didnt follow anything you said khuon! HAHA.

Why cant we pick a server and just make a room?

cool idea, i'm on irc a lot in several linux chat channels. what about irc.freenode.net or oftc.net? #bikeforumsis not being used in either at the moment.

-- michael
'04 tourmalet
'99 F400

I have been using IRC since I was 12 yrs old and Im now 21, I didnt follow anything you said khuon! HAHA.

Why cant we pick a server and just make a room?

That we can do. As a matter of fact, that's what we did on one of the networks (not EFnet). I forget which network it was though (GamesNET or something like that). The Java IRC client automatically defaulted to it.

Anyone know how a person might be able to use IRC thru a firewall? :( I can use AIM, Yahoo, etc....but I've never been able to use IRC(mirc/pirch) thru our firewall.

I would be down for some IRC chat, at least something productive on irc. I used to use it a lot a few years ago, mainly for fserve and xdcc.

Anyone know how a person might be able to use IRC thru a firewall? :( I can use AIM, Yahoo, etc....but I've never been able to use IRC(mirc/pirch) thru our firewall.

This would be one advantage of one of us running a server. We could set it up to listen on port 5190 which is the one that AIM uses and then you'd just need to tell your IRC client to use that port when connecting out. of course this assumes your firewall is simply doing port filtering and not deep packet inspection or something equally intrusive.

Lots of tech talk and im confused. Since khuon seems to be the most knowledgeable on IRC, he should pick the server. So what server is it gunna be?

Lots of tech talk and im confused. Since khuon seems to be the most knowledgeable on IRC, he should pick the server. So what server is it gunna be?

Well, for a while there was a link on the BikeForums website to a Java IRC client that automatically connected you to an irc.GamesNet.net (I think) server and joined you to #bikeforums. I would suggest just continuing to use/resurrect the channel on that one. Perhaps Joe or one of the mods can further comment. I've just joined the channel.

oh man, thats no fun connecting to server that is not ours. Say joe, want to install irc server on the box you got this honker on ;)

all else fails this will give me more incentive to get a domain name and start serving the net with my presence ;)

you gentoo? :-)
me SuSE :)

Not to start any OS wars but I figure if the Daemon is good enough for the TdF...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/840000/images/_840465_armdevil300.jpg

... and it's good enough for the BSDs...

http://www.freebsd.org/gifs/freebsd_1.gif

... then it's good enough for me. :D

http://www.neebu.net/~khuon/albums/screenshots/mocha_4_0_0_20040615090810_screenshot.sized.jpg

P.S. I also run Solaris on many of my systems too.

oh man, now THAT is what i call advertising!

OS wars are no fun, there are so many flavors, its like ice cream wars and really with 31+ flavors no one is the best, they just taste better to some people.

oh man, now THAT is what i call advertising!

OS wars are no fun, there are so many flavors, its like ice cream wars and really with 31+ flavors no one is the best, they just taste better to some people.

Agreed... especially when it comes to unix and unix-like OSes. Just use what makes sense to you and what you're comfortable with.

i was not warmongering, i just noticed your gentoo'ish avatar. i'm a firm believer in personal choice: use what works for you :)

oh, and i think i recall seeing the devil on the giro as well, he seems to get around fairly well :)

If anyones interested.

Sever: irc.luniticfringe.net
Channel: #mtb

I'm always on there till around 2 am.

If anyones interested.

Sever: irc.luniticfringe.net
Channel: #mtb

I'm always on there till around 2 am.

Idling mode engaged :) :)

http://www.neebu.net/~khuon/albums/screenshots/mocha_4_0_0_20040615090810_screenshot.sized.jpg

P.S. I also run Solaris on many of my systems too.


THAT is some sexy, sexy ****. anyone know if that CRAZY ass Sun OS has hit mainstream yet? i saw a video about it a few months back and in the UI, you could like, flip windows over to make notes on the back of them...really graphic intense stuff....and it looked super pretty too...

Well, for a while there was a link on the BikeForums website to a Java IRC client that automatically connected you to an irc.GamesNet.net (I think) server and joined you to #bikeforums. I would suggest just continuing to use/resurrect the channel on that one. Perhaps Joe or one of the mods can further comment. I've just joined the channel.

GamesNet is down now (had to go down after a lawsuit) and is now irc.gamesurge.net

GamesNet is down now (had to go down after a lawsuit) and is now irc.gamesurge.net

Absolutely no one there...

THAT is some sexy, sexy ****. anyone know if that CRAZY ass Sun OS has hit mainstream yet? i saw a video about it a few months back and in the UI, you could like, flip windows over to make notes on the back of them...really graphic intense stuff....and it looked super pretty too...

Are you talking about their 3D environment? I heard it was scheduled for Solaris-10 if it makes it at all. It definately looks pretty cool.

Linux would probably be more useful for the average user - you can make the gui look like whatever you want (solaris, os x etc.). Solaris is more of a server oriented OS.

Linux would probably be more useful for the average user - you can make the gui look like whatever you want (solaris, os x etc.). Solaris is more of a server oriented OS.

Eh? Any GUI available for Linux can be made to work under Solaris. For instance, Sun has settled on the combination of X-Windows/Gnome/Sawfish as the standard configuration for Solaris-9. This is exactly the same as what ships for RedHat-9. In the end, you have just as many options to choose from with Solaris as you do with Linux. I am running the exact same GUI configuration on my FreeBSD, Solaris and Linux boxes and switching between them from a GUI and shell point of view is indistinguishable. All I have to do is use the same config files. I also have not met many freeware or opensource applications that can't be ported to either Solaris or FreeBSD or NetBSD or Linux and most of them compile without modification under either OSes. And the ones that were designed to work in a strict POSIX environment are pretty much no-brainers. It's only the ones that use very Linux-specific resources such as NetLink and/or packet sockets that can be a problem.

Eh? Any GUI available for Linux can be made to work under Solaris.

Sorry my main ponit was not the GUI configurability. Rather the next comment.


Solaris is more of a server oriented OS.

Sorry my main ponit was not the GUI configurability. Rather the next comment.
Either OS can be tuned to be either a desktop or server environment. The military and NASA uses Solaris for desktops. They use it for servers too. The same can be said for linux. Granted, there are some special considerations that need to be taken into account and addressed in servers that generally can be lacking in linux and linux does have better support for commodity hardware but I've been using Solaris as a desktop for well over fifteen years and it's as feature rich as linux. To be honest, out of the box, I find that FreeBSD sets up and hits the ground running faster and more complete than any other OS. All the others do require some work to get "complete". The way I see it, on a scale of one to ten...


FreeBSD

Hardware support = 7
Ease of setup = 6
Completeness = 8
Administration = 9
Stability/Performance = 7

Solaris

Hardware support = 4
Ease of setup = 5
Completeness = 5
Administration = 7
Stability/Performance = 9

Linux

Hardware support = 8
Ease of setup = 6
Completeness = 6
Administration = 4
Stability/Performance = 6

Windows

Hardware support = 9
Ease of setup = 7
Completeness = 3
Administration = 2
Stability/Performance = 2

Linux still needs more refinement before it's ready for the mainstream.

Actually....the driver packages are what needs refinement.

The makers of any driver that requires dependancies should talk to the maker of the packages it's dependant on and find a way to include them, and have them install if there is not a version already on the machine. That way you avaoid having the download / make / make clean / make install / oh **** / download... loop of doom that seems to happen everytime I try to install something on my linux notebook (Fedora Core 1). I gave up on getting my aironet 350 card to work on it for a while...After installing 20 packages I just gave up.

The makers of any driver that requires dependancies should talk to the maker of the packages it's dependant on and find a way to include them, and have them install if there is not a version already on the machine.

You have just described the FreeBSD Ports system. Admittedly I believe that linux RPM (which BTW is portable and does run on other OSes besides RedHat Linux) can be made to do something similar although it's not as slick as FreeBSD Ports.

Sun's 3D desktop thing is called Project Looking Glass. It's still in development at the moment but it'll eventually be available for Solaris and Linux I think. My boss sent me off to JavaOne so I got to see quite a bit of it and the still pictures really don't do it justice.

Paul

I have yet to see RPM do this...actually I'm very unimpressed with RPMs at all, so i just quit using them and just get it as source and work from there.

...but i still had a bad taste in my mouth from back when i tried RH 5.3....my god that distro sucked simian cahones....that was the only time in my computer life I chose to use Caldera linux....and I still regret it...that distro sucked, but at the least it was easier to mess with from a newb's perspective.

I have yet to see RPM do this...actually I'm very unimpressed with RPMs at all, so i just quit using them and just get it as source and work from there.

I agree that RPM is overly complex and error-prone. I do however believe there's some way to turn on dependency tracking. The other problem with the RPM system is that the "public infrastructure" isn't there to support sourcing from a common (yet distributed) place. FreeBSD Ports is much more resilient and versatile, does dependency tracking and supports both source and binary installation.

g'day,

so is this stuff Shimano or campy?

cheers,

Hitchy

so is this stuff Shimano or campy?

More like SRAM, FSA, RaceFace, TruVative or Mavic. :D

hmm, so i assum linux drivers wont work on freebsd? Just wondering since my aironet card working is my final goal here :)