Tandem Cycling - Tandem group ride etiquette (redux)

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rdtompki
06-06-09, 04:59 PM
My wife and I are getting this tandem thing figured out a bit. Rode with a group out of the LBS this morning (short (25 mi) not all out ride) and had a chance to chat with a few of the riders. These Sat. rides will paceline, but the really hard ride is on Sun. am.

50% of this ride is rolling terrain and the singles do expect us to pass on the downhills recognizing that we need the momentum (and the lead) to get up the next roller. Of course they're free to grab our wheel and we'll just fade back once the climbing starts. This will be a big improvement over our attempt to be polite; read this as riding the brakes on the downhill to stay in line.

On nearly flat terrain (plus/minus 2% or so) we'll stay in the paceline. We will have to figure out what do do when we're in front; The paceline might be "set" at 19-20 mph, but with a 2% downhill we could be going considerably faster. We're not experienced enough to know how much a paceline of singles would speed up on a slight downhill, but I suspect about the same amount.

I think I know enough now when riding with a new group for the first time to discuss how we're going to approach a paceline and rolling hills. Best to figure this out before the ride starts I think.


conspiratemus
06-07-09, 10:06 AM
If you're pulling them too fast down the gentle grades, they'll tell you all about it. Most of them will just grab your wheel and enjoy it. But you should invite them to holler at you if the pace is too fast for them to stay on. (You might be reticent to say this ahead of time though, since it could sound like trash talk, especially if it turns out you aren't really strong enough to lead this particular group down gentle grades once the ride starts. A group of singles is pretty fast when they know what they're doing.)

Your stoker should try to keep a lookout to the rear and let you know if anyone is being dropped. Remember that her view aft is blocked when other riders are in echelon on her left quarter.

If the group's "culture" is to regroup at the top of hills and at turns (so no one gets lost) this will usually keep everyone happy.

rdtompki
06-07-09, 10:27 AM
Conspiratemus,
Good input. Trash talk scenario is low risk at our age. I do believe most of these guys would be as fast or faster if they really worked at it, but what better than have a 380 pound brick (that would be team+tandem!) in front of them punching a hole. The LBS owner is usually out on these rides and I'll also ask him about protocol.


TandemGeek
06-07-09, 11:20 AM
http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=75256&highlight=pacelines

rdtompki
06-07-09, 12:39 PM
Great thread. Thanks! As true today as it was in '04

conspiratemus
06-07-09, 09:57 PM
Re feathering the brakes as mentioned in the thread from 2004. One nice thing about a rear (or front, but ours is rear) disc is that it doesn't make any sound when you feather it -- at least ours doesn't -- and there is no visible movement of calipers in the line of sight of a rider on your wheel. So you can discreetly ease it on ever so lightly (while maintaining your pedal power) without scaring the bejesus out of the following riders which would cause them to look for the closest ditch as one poster said in the 2004 thread.