Classic and Vintage Bicycles: What's it Worth? Appraisals and Inquiries - F.Moser frame without Serialnumber

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Kavorka
06-07-09, 10:34 AM
Hi,

Is it common for frames to not have a serialnumber? The frame in question has been re-painted could that cover up the number?

Yes, im a bit paranoid :)

Im also wondering if im being quoted a good price on this frame, dont know my Moser's that well :)

There is no decals declaring which tubes it got, the weight is 2,2kg
230 euro (~$350)

** Update with pictures

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unworthy1
06-07-09, 11:42 AM
it happens, and yes, there may be paint covering one up.
Show us some pics, if you can.
unterhausen
06-08-09, 09:12 PM
I would say most of the Italian frames imported into the U.S. did not have serial numbers. They often would have the frame size.

Kavorka
06-09-09, 06:12 AM
Thanks for the replies.

Updated with some pictures and question about price :)
miamijim
06-09-09, 10:15 AM
More pics if you can? What kind of dropouts are those?

In real money thats ~$350.
Kavorka
06-09-09, 10:45 AM
thats all I got that show any kind of details. I can barely make out some text on one of the dropouts but cant tell what it says...

It has been re-painted so that is probably the reason there is no serial an the engraving on the dropouts is hard to read

Is the price good / fair / bad ?
unworthy1
06-09-09, 11:06 AM
I think it's too much for a (badly) repainted Moser with no fork. It looks authentic (engraved stay caps) but not that great a deal, especially since so many vintage steel bikes seem to go for cheap in Europe.