Road Cycling - Dt Swiss RR 1.1 Rims

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tourist
06-15-04, 04:47 PM
Anyone used these for awhile?


bandaidman
06-15-04, 06:45 PM
i am having a set built at my lbs as soon as they get a dt-swiss campy rear hub in

will let you know :)

Thylacine
06-15-04, 06:45 PM
I just built up a set with Tune hubs and DT spokes. The overall quality is very high. The back rim is very round and true, but the seam on the front one is not as good - it has a slight 'up and down' that i don't want to pull out of it coz the front wheel is a radial.

I'd return it, but it took me 3 weeks to get these rims and it would probably take 3 more to get a replacement - not a problem for your probably because you're not living in Australia. I'd say they were a viable alternative to any other 'traditional' profile rim on the market, though. It would be irresponsible for me to make a comment on QC as I've only ever seen 4 of these rims, but if they're all as good as the back one, then DT is on a winner.

I'd say give 'em a shot, or if you're not an 'early adopter', go with the Mavic Open Pros.


tourist
06-15-04, 08:14 PM
Is there any advantage to these over a Mavic OP or a Velocity of some sort? My original thought was CXP-33's on Chorus, but I am not opposed to being an early adopter. You know the pioneers are the ones with the arrows in their back!

531Aussie
06-15-04, 10:34 PM
My bike shop guy says the DTs are joined better....or something.

In case you're interested, I weighed one at 419g.

I loved my CXP33s (nice and light, and stiff) but when I was ~194lbs (88kg) I
cracked the rear.......bugger! There's a slight possibilty it was caused by my dodgy
wheel truing.

Thylacine
06-16-04, 01:56 AM
My past wheels were CK hubs laced to CXP33 rims. I liked the 33's, but I deceided to go with something lighter as I realised the deeper section really gave no advantage. As 531 said, they are quite stiff rims, so they'd be cool if you're a bit of a Clyde.

My basic POV is that I'm a Mavic guy. I wouldn't be caught dead on a pair of their prebuilt wheels, but their rims are simply the best. I've tried many other brands in the past 17 years, but none have come close to the Mavics. The DT's look the money, and if their other products are anything to go by, the RR 1.1's should stack up.

I'd say go for it. In the meantime, tomorrow will be the first time I get a ride in on mine, so I'll keep ya posted.

Fat Hack
06-16-04, 04:44 AM
I wouldn't be caught dead on a pair of their prebuilt wheels.....

What don't you like about the complete Mavic wheels? I don't have any, but every 2nd person seems to have Cosmos or Ksyriums.

They are so ubiquitous now, that when a young guy saw my old Mavic CD4s with Chorus hubs, he couldn't believe that I didn't have Mavic hubs in my Mavic rims. So when I told him that no one used Mavic hubs in ye olde days, he couldn't accept it.

John M
06-16-04, 06:00 AM
when a young guy saw my old Mavic CD4s with Chorus hubs, he couldn't believe that I didn't have Mavic hubs in my Mavic rims. So when I told him that no one used Mavic hubs in ye olde days, he couldn't accept it.

LOL, he would have a fit over my 13 yr old open 4's with 600 7 speed hubs. Hubs were converted to 8 speed in 89 :) I also have open pro CD's with Dura Ace hubs. circa 91 (8 speed SIS) My bud, who built both of mine and his, still has 3 sets with record, chorus and DA hubs. We are both a fan of Mavic rims.

I have a set of WH7700 rims I bought in 01 that have had 1 spoke turned 1/8 turn to remove a bobble in the rear. Both my bud, master builder, and the best in the area say my wheels are great. I have a miniscule bobble in the rear that all say not worth the effort to adjust. I have had great luck with these wheels and I am overweight. I was 208 (5'7") when I bought them and dropped to 195. I was 228 two months ago, 207 today. These wheels have better than 8000 miles without a hitch. I would not trade or sell these for the world, or my DA set my bud build.

I am learning to build wheels and when I get far enough on my training I am going to build a set for my self. Where can I get some info on these rims?

Thanks

Fat Hack
06-16-04, 06:12 AM
LOL, he would have a fit over my 13 yr old open 4's with 600 7 speed hubs. Hubs were converted to 8 speed in 89 :)
Indeed! When exactly did the Mavic hub begin to pop up everywhere?



Where can I get some info on these rims?

http://www.dtswiss.com/index.asp?fuseaction=rims.bikedetail&id=8

if the direct link doesn't work, use this one, and (obviously) click on "bicycle", then "rims"
http://www.dtswiss.com/index.asp

Thylacine
06-16-04, 04:31 PM
What don't you like about the complete Mavic wheels? I don't have any, but every 2nd person seems to have Cosmos or Ksyriums.

They are so ubiquitous now, that when a young guy saw my old Mavic CD4s with Chorus hubs, he couldn't believe that I didn't have Mavic hubs in my Mavic rims. So when I told him that no one used Mavic hubs in ye olde days, he couldn't accept it.

It's all a marketing ploy. Mavic's Ksyriums are expensive, aren't light, aren't aero, use propreitary parts that are not cheap or easy to replace. They're a success in the market place because Mavics marketing and promotion has been very savvy. It's easy to just plonk your cash down for a complete wheelset without having to worry about the build quality or your choice in components. For some people, paying for that piece of mind is worth it. For me, it's not.

Funny enough, I did use Mavic hubs 'in ye olde days' laced to Mavic rims. The Mavic hubs were excellent, albeit heavy hubs back then. I liked em.

John M
06-16-04, 06:01 PM
Thanks for the link. In the last 3-4 years with popularity increasing since 01.

Gustaf
06-16-04, 11:44 PM
I had a pair of wheels build up by Mike Garcia (http://www.oddsandendos.com/) using the DT 1.1 rims and have been very very plesed with their quality. Kicks the crap out of my old training Mavic OP's.

531Aussie
06-17-04, 12:04 AM
I had a pair of wheels build up by Mike Garcia (http://www.oddsandendos.com/) using the DT 1.1 rims and have been very very plesed with their quality. Kicks the crap out of my old training Mavic OP's.

in what way are they better?

Gustaf
06-17-04, 12:48 AM
in what way are they better?
Don’t feel like I am dragging a boat anchor around with me.

tourist
06-17-04, 08:26 AM
I shot an e-mail to the folks at DT Swiss, because I did not mention the I am a full blown clyde. I asked them about the use of these rims for some my size (275lbs/125kgs) and this was their reply:

Our rims will be fine for you. Use either a 32 or 36 holes, 3x lacing pattern. The most important thing you can do is go to a reputable wheel builder that uses a spoke tension meter. (Spokes usually break from too low tension). Also, I would recommend the DT Swiss Competition spokes 2.0/1.8/2.0mm (14/15g).

Best Regards,
DT Swiss Inc.
Dave Agapito
2493 Industrial Blvd.
Grand Junction, CO 81505
Phone (970)242-9232 ext. 19
Fax (970)244-8918
dagapito@dtswiss-us.com
www.dtswiss.com

I'm going to try them out.

John M
06-17-04, 05:46 PM
That sounds promising, now who carries them? I at 207 and dropping, goal is 175. Looking at that and a good set of hubs.

Gustaf
06-17-04, 06:13 PM
That sounds promising, now who carries them? I at 207 and dropping, goal is 175. Looking at that and a good set of hubs.

Give Mike Garcia a call, http://www.oddsandendos.com/
Where I got mine, a great guy to deal with, sooo soooo nice to talk to on the phone.

John M
06-18-04, 06:53 AM
Thanks for the info. I looked at his hub data and that got my interest. But I do want to build my own wheels :) I need to find the rims as my bud is a master wheel-builder and now I am trying to learn the ropes and build myself a set of wheels.