Classic and Vintage Bicycles: What's it Worth? Appraisals and Inquiries - 1980's Bianchi

Is this bike worth $500?

Anyone know what model it is?

I'm having trouble making out the level of componentry from that pic. Do you have any details?

I do not know what components it has on it. It is a one owner bike and is supposed to be original.

I can't tell poot from that picture.

Go look at it, it could be nice. Look for a "Made in Taiwan" or "Made in Italy" sticker. If the first, offer half of 300$. If the latter, it's about right. Or even cheap.

I'm not sure how I got to this thread, but while I'm here...that looks like a Limited to me. It looks to have a Triomphe front and rear derailleur, and either an Ofmega or a Campy Strada crankset (not enough detail, and a pretty big difference in price). the seatpost appears to be a one bolt super record. The brake levers are Japanese aeros from the mid '80's. The calipers appear to be Modolo, maybe speedys.

So, the bike is definitely not original, if that matters. The frame looks to be a 58cm or maybe a 59cm. from that one picture it looks to be in good shape. $300? maybe. Does it fit? Do you like red? Is that crank a campy?

I'd probably be more comfortable considering the derailleurs with somewhere between $200 and $250...

It is "Made in Italy". I'm fairly certain it is an '86 and it is a 59cm. I really like the bike and it should fit, but was unsure if the price was right.

It is "Made in Italy". I'm fairly certain it is an '86 and it is a 59cm. I really like the bike and it should fit, but was unsure if the price was right.

Whats the asking price? Are you looking to ride it as an end user?

It's Italian and red. It's automatically worth $300.

Seriously, if it's Italian and Columbus, that's a good thing. But I'm with Luker on the pricing.

Whats the asking price? Are you looking to ride it as an end user?


$350 and yes.

$350 and yes.

I need better reading comprehension. Post #1 says $300. If your the end user and its something your going to ride and keep I'd think upto $300 is OK. Around thses parts we've seen better deals and worse.

I found out a little more information...

Campagnolo (friction) Shifter and deraileurs

Columbus tubeset frame

I'm beginning to think $500 is OK.

Campagnolo (friction) Shifter and deraileurs



OK, but keep in mind that Campagnolo derailleurs and shifters doesn't always = quality.

Well...the Bianchi came home with me this evening. We agreed on $500. I thought it was a fair deal considering its condition and the smoothness of the ride. The bike does not have many miles on it. The bike is all original except for the bar tape, seat and pedals.

Well...the Bianchi came home with me this evening. We aggreed on $325. I thought it was a fair deal considering its condition and the smoothness of the ride. The bike does not have many miles on it. The bike is all original except for the bar tape, seat and pedals.

From what I gather, it fits you, rides nice, looks good (hard to tell from photo) and you needed a ride, so I think you got a good and fair deal.

Keep in mind many of us here have multiple nice rides. This makes us pay a bit lower, or only pay for the stuff we're really, really looking for.

Now you have to post some real pics.

OK...Here are some detail pics. I know the bike is from the 1986 model year via the serial number stamped on the BB. The guy I bought it from said he bought the bike new when he was a teenager and all of the components are original except for the pedals.

It has Mavic rims on it. The '86 catalogs I saw mentioned a different brand.



I would like to try and figure out:



1) What model this bike is.

2) If the components indeed look original.

3) What level of components they are.

4) What brand the crank/chainring set is ( The crank arms and chainrings have no markings that I could see)

I don't have anything to add besides a comment. That bike is gorgeous!

Thanks. After some more research, I'm strating to think Luker might be right. I'm not sure everything is original.

Is this the minimum insertion mark for the stem? You may want to drop it down a few mm, just to be safe. If that makes your back unhappy, you might want to consider one of those Nitto stems (Techtonic?).

http://www.bikeforums.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=108497&d=1245361604

By the way, I highly approve of this purchase (see my avatar :))

Is this the minimum insertion mark for the stem? You may want to drop it down a few mm, just to be safe. If that makes your back unhappy, you might want to consider one of those Nitto stems (Techtonic?).



By the way, I highly approve of this purchase (see my avatar :))

Yes it is. I have already corrected it.

If it means anything, I would have paid $325 for that bike too. It's nice.

the crank is most likely ofmega, although gipiemme made a very similar crank. I am happy calling everything on the bike original except for perhaps the aero brake levers. The bike is mid-80's, the frame and fork embossing say '84. The parts say Nuovo Racing, except for the fact that the triomphe derailleurs are not in keeping with the catalog (should be nuovo record, not triomphe...) So it may be a model that was not imported into America, may be a mid-year model, may be a frameset that was built up with what the original owner wanted..could be any combination of the above. The Triomphe parts would have been a pretty flashy upgrade at the time...

click (http://bulgier.net/pics/bike/Catalogs/Bianchi-84/3.jpg)

An interesting aside...the Limited was made of ishiwata 022 and sized in inches, the nuovo racing was made of columbus something or other and sized in metric. The seat tube is measured from center of spindle to top of top tube. Does it come out exactly in inches?

points to luker for the very sharp eyes! I agreed with most of what you pointed out but really couldn't see enough to stick my neck out.
So; It's a tretubi Columbus frame, mid-level hodgepodge Italian Gruppo...but in *great* condition and you like it.
I think you got a fine deal.
One thing I'd upgrade: those Modolo Corsas, NOT their best calipers (and that's from somebody who loves his Modolo Pros)

So; It's a tretubi Columbus frame, mid-level hodgepodge Italian Gruppo...but in *great* condition and you like it.
I think you got a fine deal.


I don't think it could be called "tretubi" with those Columbus fork decals.

Interesting. Thanks for detailed responses. The serial number on the BB reads S6xx xx. To my understanding...the first number after the 'S' is the date code. Meaning this is an '86 frame.

the crank is most likely ofmega, although gipiemme made a very similar crank. I am happy calling everything on the bike original except for perhaps the aero brake levers. The bike is mid-80's, the frame and fork embossing say '84. The parts say Nuovo Racing, except for the fact that the triomphe derailleurs are not in keeping with the catalog (should be nuovo record, not triomphe...) So it may be a model that was not imported into America, may be a mid-year model, may be a frameset that was built up with what the original owner wanted..could be any combination of the above. The Triomphe parts would have been a pretty flashy upgrade at the time...

click (http://bulgier.net/pics/bike/Catalogs/Bianchi-84/3.jpg)

An interesting aside...the Limited was made of ishiwata 022 and sized in inches, the nuovo racing was made of columbus something or other and sized in metric. The seat tube is measured from center of spindle to top of top tube. Does it come out exactly in inches?


The measurement you'd asked about is between 22" and 23"...about 23 5/8".

I've added a few more pictures of the rims, tires(original), shifters and the front derailleur.

I would be happy to take more detailed pictures of anything on the bike to help identify it. Thanks to everyone for all of the help so far.

On a side note...I love the bike. It rides awesome. The downtube shifters are going to take a little getting used to...I haven't ridden with those for quite some time. I like to know all the details I can about an old bike and this forum is a invaluable resource. I appreciate all of the attention some have given to identifying the parts.

I needed a bike to ride with the club. I can't keep up with them on the long hill climbs on the Stratus even though I am a decent climber with it.

I have a feeling there will be a lot of oohs and ahhs this weekend. ;-)

I don't think it could be called "tretubi" with those Columbus fork decals.

that's what the decal says, and I've always understood the designation refers to 3 MAIN tubes being BUTTED, whatever the fork (or stays) may be.
But YRMV.

My guess is that it is a Stelvio.


stan

Stan,

The pics I found by searching Stelvio seem to match. You might be right about the model.

Luker thought it had triomphe components on it...which seems to fit the Selvio from what I have found so far. It also has Mavic rims which seem to match that model as well.


If it is a Stelvio, does it have a columbus tubed frame?

http://www.sheldonbrown.com/bridgestone/pdfs/bstone6001985.pdf


The mystery model seems to have been solved. The bike specs seem to match mine.

that's what the decal says, and I've always understood the designation refers to 3 MAIN tubes being BUTTED, whatever the fork (or stays) may be.
But YRMV.

You're quite right - I looked right at that decal pic and missed it somehow.

Given the bike I have is very likely a Stelvio it wea a good deal considering its condition and originality of its parts.