Classic and Vintage Bicycles: What's it Worth? Appraisals and Inquiries - Prices for these bikes?

So theres a seller here who is selling these road bikes, theres like 3 otheres in same conditions some at 175$, they are all up there in prices, I picked these two they had for sale, just by looking at this two bikes I could already see garbage picked bike allover it or garage sale bike nothing even done to them, I even sent email but no reply, I guess I hit the spot lol so what would you pay for these?

Only one picture a bike and very little info

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Theres a seller offering these road bikes, there are 3 others in same condition, some at $175. All up there in price, I picked these two, just by looking at these two bikes I could already see see issues and nothing has been done to them, I even sent email but no reply, I guess I hit the spot!! What would you pay for these?

Only one picture a bike and very little info

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If your the end user maybe $25-50 for the rusty Motobecane. I'd pay more for the Sekine, $75-100.

Of the 2 bikes you should go with the Sekine.

I'm not so sure: the Moto seems to have a Columbus decal on the down tube...does it? Clearly it also has mediocre parts and rust, whereas the Sekine has lots of chips and probably some rust too...but it's "the World's finest bicycle" ;)
You need to see them up close and decide, but they look to both need a fair bit of work.

+1 Too hard to tell from the pics. Sekine seems to have quite a few paint chips. Motobecane has some type of label on the front fork, maybe its something good tubing wise? $175 is way high in this condition, more like $100 to $125 for the pair, assuming no major flaw (like stuck seat post, terminal rust, tubing dents, etc).

I agree, the people of this city see others selling these bikes for 175$ but really miss the point where they are all cleaned and working and new tires and so on, this dude wont answer me, i'll have to use plan B and thats the phone but last time I did this I was called a Bike noob or something like that lol i'll see if I can aquier pics