Clydesdales/Athenas (200+ lb / 91+ kg) - Do any of you Run?

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TechKnowGN
07-06-09, 07:07 PM
I ran today. WTF are people thinking when they do this? I mean I started interval training so I could go from walking to running in my triathlons, and if I ever met the man that invented running as a sport, I'm gonna take him out behind the woodshed for a whoopin.

Seriously though 5 1/2 minutes walking, and then 30 seconds running, repeated 5 times.

My other sports (swimming and biking) make me feel skinny, powerful, and fast. Running makes me feel fat and slow. My belly feels like a large rock moving up and down as i run. I hated it.

Did any of you who do run hate it at first, stick with it, become better, then like it?


Brando_T.
07-06-09, 07:23 PM
I've got some sort of fused bones in my ankles that keep me from running. That's why i'm on a bike!

txvintage
07-06-09, 07:33 PM
I've got some sort of fused bones in my ankles that keep me from running. That's why i'm on a bike!

I've got fused bones in my spine and I'm bone on bone in one knee, and possibly the other by now. Running is a bad plan for me.


perryw
07-06-09, 07:44 PM
I was running for about 6 months, go myself up to around 5 miles. Then shin splints started kicking in. I was on a roll with my exercising, and I didn't want to be cooped up in the fitness center during the nice weather, so I went out and got a bike. I feel odd saying it, but I actually enjoy both activities now. I've only had my bike for a new days now, but it's great to finish up my workout tired, rather than in pain. I do intend to do some more running after a month or so of just biking.

DelusionalDude
07-06-09, 07:48 PM
Fortunately, each time the cops were after me I'e been able to get away without running. the secret is.....

wait, I can't tell that part.

Hill-Pumper
07-06-09, 07:50 PM
I tried running at the first of the year, my hips hurt for a month afterward. I have not made that mistake again.:(

sakonnetclip
07-06-09, 08:00 PM
Interesting, I never ran much at all for most of my life. After dropping 40 lbs last year I moved from walking to running as my fitness allowed. Before I started biking a lot more, I was running 2-3 times a week for 3 miles or so a run.

At first I thought I was going to die, but as my muscles adapted it became a lot easier. I'm not light at 6-2 and 225 lbs, but I don't feel the weight nearly as much any more. I don't run really fast, but I am in the 9:30 range, perhaps a bit faster if I'm feeling good.

Solution: Run more.

-spence

cod.peace
07-06-09, 08:03 PM
I ran today. WTF are people thinking when they do this? I mean I started interval training so I could go from walking to running in my triathlons, and if I ever met the man that invented running as a sport, I'm gonna take him out behind the woodshed for a whoopin.

Seriously though 5 1/2 minutes walking, and then 30 seconds running, repeated 5 times.

My other sports (swimming and biking) make me feel skinny, powerful, and fast. Running makes me feel fat and slow. My belly feels like a large rock moving up and down as i run. I hated it.

Did any of you who do run hate it at first, stick with it, become better, then like it?

I used to run a ton when I was in my teens, even becoming captain of the HS cross-country team. Running is something the human body is uniquely designed for, see, for example: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4021811.stm
and there's a recent book on the subject: "Born to Run. (http://www.amazon.com/Born-Run-Hidden-Superathletes-Greatest/dp/0307266303/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1246932013&sr=8-1)"

This doesn't mean it doesn't hurt like a mother****er when you get back into it. I plan on picking up some running again once I de-Clyde myself. I personally believe there really is something to the idea of barefoot running, or at least running with minimal footwear like the Nike Free or Vibram Five Fingers shoes. Personally I have no interest in running asphalt with bare feet. The merits of this will probably depend on how healthy your feet are to begin with.

hairnet
07-06-09, 08:05 PM
My knees cry when I think about running.

Missbumble
07-06-09, 08:11 PM
I have been walking really fast ont he treadmill and then did a 5k jogging.. 41 minutes a few weeks ago... So I voted no cause really I am just dabbling in it. It is hard as all get out. The Itrain.com website has some great treadmill workouts - that may help you run. I am gonna get on the treadmill tomorrow..and maybe you have inspired me to try and jog for atleast 30 minutes. I will report back. I know it will s$ck.

Sue

StanSeven
07-06-09, 08:29 PM
I used to run a ton when I was in my teens, even becoming captain of the HS cross-country team. Running is something the human body is uniquely designed for, see, for example: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4021811.stm
and there's a recent book on the subject: "Born to Run. (http://www.amazon.com/Born-Run-Hidden-Superathletes-Greatest/dp/0307266303/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1246932013&sr=8-1)"

This doesn't mean it doesn't hurt like a mother****er when you get back into it. I plan on picking up some running again once I de-Clyde myself. I personally believe there really is something to the idea of barefoot running, or at least running with minimal footwear like the Nike Free or Vibram Five Fingers shoes. Personally I have no interest in running asphalt with bare feet. The merits of this will probably depend on how healthy your feet are to begin with.

+1. You understand running. Running is good only when the feeling involves no effort.

MikeM21
07-06-09, 08:31 PM
Yes, I love running!:eek:

I used to be pretty serious about running, completing two marathons, three half marathons and multiple 10Ks in 1995. I was shooting for qualifying for the 100th Boston and was in shape to do it before the injuries kicked in. Multiple knee surgeries, back surgery and painful sciatic problems led to the end of my marathoning career and started my descent into bad physical condition.

In my best running shape I was just a little over 200 lbs - too heavy for long distance running (a running Clyde is anyone over 180 lbs.)!

I'm trying now to train for my favorite race - a Thanksgiving Day 10K. I did it four years ago, and then promptly quit exercising and started the latest weight gain. This time, as last I'm doing almost all of my training on a treadmill. I highly recommend training on a treadmill for us Clydes. It's MUCH easier on the joints. My first marathon was in January of '95 so I had to do most of my training for that one on a treadmill so I avoided injuries for the most part.

I'm so happy to be back running. I'll never do the 65-70 mile weeks I used to do, but now I have two teenagers who are starting to do 5Ks, so I have to show them how it's done! :p

So, go ahead and run you cycling Clydes, but do it mostly indoors. Nothing gets you fit faster than running!

MM

racethenation
07-06-09, 08:33 PM
I started running a year ago (after I had lost about 50 pounds) I started pretty close to where you are. I had been walking a descent amount so I thought that I could run some. The first day, I walked 5 minutes and ran 1 minute, and then I walked the remainder of that mile, and I was done. After several weeks, I was to the point where I could walk 5 minutes and run 1 minute alternating for two miles. After a few more weeks, I could do that for 3 miles. After that, I started to trying to run more and walk less. After a year almost a year now, I can run 3 miles non stop. On Memorial Day I ran a very hilly 10k and only walked about 7 minutes total. I was aiming for only walking 5, but I actually had tonsillitis at the time, and that slowed me down. Very few times have a run more than twice a week in the last year, because if I do I still get shinsplints, although are not as bad anymore.

The feeling of sloshing around will get better over time. As you run more, you will be able to improve your form. Your upper body should be loose, but should not move around alot. That will help the bounces and jiggles. Work very hard on your breathing patterns. This is one area where running has helped my cycling speed. When you get out of breathe while riding you naturally tend to coast and let your body catch up. You can't do that as much when you run. You will have to learn how to control your respiration. As you are able to do this more and more running, you can transfer that to the bike. Breathe deeply and consistently and stop coasting and your bike speed will improve dramatically.

Do I like it? I honestly don't know. At first I hated it as much as you described, but I had to remind myself that my first few rides on the bike last year were horrible and miserable. I stuck with the bike, and it's wonderful most days now. I stuck with the running, and I don't hate it anymore. It will never be my favorite exercise, but I do enjoy the solitude when I run. My wife is a runner who also bikes, and I consider myself a cyclist who also runs.


I ran today. WTF are people thinking when they do this? I mean I started interval training so I could go from walking to running in my triathlons, and if I ever met the man that invented running as a sport, I'm gonna take him out behind the woodshed for a whoopin.

Seriously though 5 1/2 minutes walking, and then 30 seconds running, repeated 5 times.

My other sports (swimming and biking) make me feel skinny, powerful, and fast. Running makes me feel fat and slow. My belly feels like a large rock moving up and down as i run. I hated it.

Did any of you who do run hate it at first, stick with it, become better, then like it?

TrekJapan
07-06-09, 08:39 PM
Yes. I'm a runner first and a biker second. Running is all about YOU. To some extent so is biking but you have a machine and sometimes gears.

Running is all about you. I've lost 100 lbs. total roughly over the last few years (factor in some yo-yo). Most of my weight loss was attributable to running. I started running at about 285 lbs or so when I was about 39 or 40.

Ran for an hour in some brutal Okinawa heat today and I have this mantra when I finish a run.

"Nothing I do today will be harder than this just was".

I love it. Until you've had the high you don't know what you're missing.

John

IbikezLA
07-06-09, 08:42 PM
Did any of you who do run hate it at first, stick with it, become better, then like it?

Yes. My knees were never very good so I despised running for the first few months I was doing it (I was on a sports team so I had to run when Coach said so). Slowly slowly my knees adapted and my fitness skyrocketed so running became effortless. Only then was it enjoyable. I really can't describe what it was like running for a couple hours straight, on the beach bike path, at night, alone (the coach sent us out at different times). That runner's high was quite surreal, I just remember going and almost in slow-mo I would concentrate on the way the water moved and made noise in my bottle with every stride I took. I sound like such a junkie :innocent:

Wogster
07-06-09, 08:58 PM
I ran today. WTF are people thinking when they do this? I mean I started interval training so I could go from walking to running in my triathlons, and if I ever met the man that invented running as a sport, I'm gonna take him out behind the woodshed for a whoopin.

Seriously though 5 1/2 minutes walking, and then 30 seconds running, repeated 5 times.

My other sports (swimming and biking) make me feel skinny, powerful, and fast. Running makes me feel fat and slow. My belly feels like a large rock moving up and down as i run. I hated it.

Did any of you who do run hate it at first, stick with it, become better, then like it?

I voted no, but there is an exception, when I see the bus at the stop half way up the hill, and I run to catch it, sometimes.... Other times I simply walk home, it only takes about 10 minutes, or wait for the next one, which takes 15 minutes, depends on how rough the shift was at work....::rolleyes:

Fastflyingasian
07-06-09, 09:09 PM
i do enjoy running. i dabbled in running for 3 years until this year when i decided that i wanted to do a triathlon. i started on a treadmill and could barly make it more than a tenth of a mile before i would have to walk. most people end up suffering with shin splint of some sort. you really need to push through the pain. just like you would push through the pain of a large steep long hill. eventually that hill is no longer a hill and for me i no longer suffer from shin splints only because i really pushed myself. now 6 months later and i can run over 2 miles and typically run about 4 to 10 miles a week. biking comes first then running and weight lifting.


stick with it and it will come. i wear a compression shirt to help keep things where they should be. once you really start adding to your distance make sure you have some good properly fitting shoes. i went to a running specific store and the shoes they helped me choose (i pronate) made a huge difference. i dropped 42 seconds on my 1.5 mile and 30 seconds on my mile. dropped from 10:30 to 10:00 for my mile. what a huge accomplishment that is for me. it ranges somewhere near doing my first century :)

now if i could only do my first pull up ever :notamused:

traitorhound
07-06-09, 09:22 PM
I would like to be able to run again but I'm scared I'll hurt myself until I lose some weight. Running is way more efficient to get into shape than biking. The only other thing I see being close is swimming but running is something that you don't' really need anything special to do.


A couple months back I was running 2-3x a week running 5 miles at a time (12 min mile pace) for a good hour workout. Then on April 18th I ran a 5k in 30min which was a pretty good baseline (slow to what I was in HS running 19's) but what happened there was I sprained my ankle within the 1st 500 yards and just ran through the pain.

In hindsight that was probably a very bad idea since its taken months to heal and sometimes if i step the wrong way my ankle hurts but I wanted to finish my first "official" 5k.

I would like to start running again but I figure I will want to lose about 20-30 lbs first (265 right now) and then hopefully a lighter frame will be easier on my joints.

hairnet
07-06-09, 09:31 PM
now if i could only do my first pull up ever :notamused:

Try 30 second negative chin ups. They suck, they hurt, they seems to last an eternity, but they got me doing pull ups and all those lifts faster than other methods people have had me use in my training. Just a suggestion, I'm not saying it will work for everybody.

Neil_B
07-06-09, 09:36 PM
I've got fused bones in my spine and I'm bone on bone in one knee, and possibly the other by now. Running is a bad plan for me.

I'm such a wreck that running is out of the question. Hiking is pushing it for me. :(

cod.peace
07-06-09, 09:40 PM
I used to be pretty serious about running, completing two marathons, three half marathons and multiple 10Ks in 1995. I was shooting for qualifying for the 100th Boston and was in shape to do it before the injuries kicked in. Multiple knee surgeries, back surgery and painful sciatic problems led to the end of my marathoning career and started my descent into bad physical condition.

When I was a kid I used to bike over to the start of the Boston marathon. It was always quite a scene!

Tex_Arcana
07-06-09, 09:56 PM
I ran when I was in the Army.....back in the '80s.

Probably why I have a left hip that tries to murder me when the weather is about to change.

vXhanz
07-07-09, 03:42 AM
I used to run when I was in Okinawa and Guam, but not so much anymore after leaving the service. I tried running/jogging a few weeks ago and my knees hurt really bad for several weeks. I figure once I get down about 40lbs I can think about running but as it stands now I can only dream about it.

V

float
07-07-09, 04:46 AM
I run. I do not like it.

cyclezealot
07-07-09, 04:47 AM
Used to . Even sort of enjoyed it.. Reason I got into cycling.. My right knee was not up to the pain of the impact of running.

txvintage
07-07-09, 04:49 AM
I used to run when I was in Okinawa and Guam, but not so much anymore after leaving the service. I tried running/jogging a few weeks ago and my knees hurt really bad for several weeks. I figure once I get down about 40lbs I can think about running but as it stands now I can only dream about it.

V

Bejeebus, I remember running while on Guam. I ran all the time back in those days and actually had a regular addiction to it.

We spent 21 days in Guam on a refit/upkeep before heading off to do submarine stuff once. We had to do our PT test there because our year would pass us up while we were on Spec Op. I'll never forget 95+ degree heat and 2000% humidity at 5:30 AM. Argggggggggggggggggg.

bautieri
07-07-09, 05:30 AM
I voted yes as I enjoy a good run on the treadmills at the gym I work out in. It hurts at first (just like cycling) but it gets better. Much better if you buy yourself a good pair of shoes.

Missbumble
07-07-09, 06:14 AM
I voted yes as I enjoy a good run on the treadmills at the gym I work out in. It hurts at first (just like cycling) but it gets better. Much better if you buy yourself a good pair of shoes.

Hey Bauteri - please offer advice to the newbie. Help...So today I ran... or really jogged along on the treadmill, inspired by this post. THANK YOU!!

I have been mixing my workouts up - 1 day one hour intervals on the stationary bike (since my road bike and I are separated during the week) and 1 day I hit the treadmill dong an itrain walking tape. I walk for an hour at 4.5-5.0. IT's a really hard workout...but I really did not do the jogging. (Incidentally on this tape - mp3 really - while I am walking the instructor also gives jogging and running cues but they start at 6.0ish and that seems really tough.)


Now and then I jog since I am dabbling with the idea of a sprint -Triathlon in August. So today I jogged 3.1 miles on the treadmill at 5.0 -5.3 mostly. A little bit at 5.5 and then 6.0 to see what it felt like right up to a few secs at 8.5 min/mile pace which was super duper fast! HAH! I May hit the gym tonight and do 1 hour of biking as well. we shall see.

Thanks OP for making me run. I do think though at my slow pace the 30-40 minute run trot is alot easier than when I hit the bike with Interval training. So I think the running could be a ton harder/painful if I kicked it up a notch and did intervals..I just did not want to hate it so I took it slowly,

Trebor Snave
07-07-09, 07:40 AM
I run. I do not like it.

+1. Have to do it 'cause I'm still in the military, and I have to train for it.

But I do not like it.

zoste
07-07-09, 07:47 AM
My knees cry when I think about running.

This is me, too. I don't even run when someone's chasing me.

TechKnowGN
07-07-09, 07:59 AM
Hey Bauteri - please offer advice to the newbie. Help...So today I ran... or really jogged along on the treadmill, inspired by this post. THANK YOU!!

I have been mixing my workouts up - 1 day one hour intervals on the stationary bike (since my road bike and I are separated during the week) and 1 day I hit the treadmill dong an itrain walking tape. I walk for an hour at 4.5-5.0. IT's a really hard workout...but I really did not do the jogging. (Incidentally on this tape - mp3 really - while I am walking the instructor also gives jogging and running cues but they start at 6.0ish and that seems really tough.)


Now and then I jog since I am dabbling with the idea of a sprint -Triathlon in August. So today I jogged 3.1 miles on the treadmill at 5.0 -5.3 mostly. A little bit at 5.5 and then 6.0 to see what it felt like right up to a few secs at 8.5 min/mile pace which was super duper fast! HAH! I May hit the gym tonight and do 1 hour of biking as well. we shall see.

Thanks OP for making me run. I do think though at my slow pace the 30-40 minute run trot is alot easier than when I hit the bike with Interval training. So I think the running could be a ton harder/painful if I kicked it up a notch and did intervals..I just did not want to hate it so I took it slowly,


+1 on the sprint tri Ms Bumble. I've done 3 now, and it's WAY fun. In fact, it's the whole reason I'm working on running. My best 5k average pace is 4.44 MPH. I've done miles faster than that, but not averaged it across races. My Triathlon 5k's have averaged about 46 minutes walking. Even if I can run an 11 or 12 minute mile, that will still drop 10 minutes off my time!

I'm a lot bigger than most of the other people running here. 320#. What is lucky for me is that I've done so much walking, and I already buy good shoes because I do races. So I think thats helped a lot with lack of pain and preparation for suffering.

But I really just wanted to whine about how fat and slow it made me feel. Cause it sucked.

bautieri
07-07-09, 08:36 AM
Hey Bauteri - please offer advice to the newbie. Help...So today I ran... or really jogged along on the treadmill, inspired by this post. THANK YOU!!

I have been mixing my workouts up - 1 day one hour intervals on the stationary bike (since my road bike and I are separated during the week) and 1 day I hit the treadmill dong an itrain walking tape. I walk for an hour at 4.5-5.0. IT's a really hard workout...but I really did not do the jogging. (Incidentally on this tape - mp3 really - while I am walking the instructor also gives jogging and running cues but they start at 6.0ish and that seems really tough.)


Now and then I jog since I am dabbling with the idea of a sprint -Triathlon in August. So today I jogged 3.1 miles on the treadmill at 5.0 -5.3 mostly. A little bit at 5.5 and then 6.0 to see what it felt like right up to a few secs at 8.5 min/mile pace which was super duper fast! HAH! I May hit the gym tonight and do 1 hour of biking as well. we shall see.

Thanks OP for making me run. I do think though at my slow pace the 30-40 minute run trot is alot easier than when I hit the bike with Interval training. So I think the running could be a ton harder/painful if I kicked it up a notch and did intervals..I just did not want to hate it so I took it slowly,

So um...what’s the question Ms. Bumble? I'd be happy to help out however I can but I'm not sure what exactly you're asking. In no way am I a subject matter expert but I will share what I know.

For me the biggest comfort increase came from a new pair of sneakers. I had previously been using a pair of my everyday sneakers that I had for at least 2 years. I have since learned that sneakers have a shelf life some somewhere around 6 months is you jog/run on a regular basis. For this reason I do not purchase incredibly expensive sneakers but I make sure I rotate them out on a regular basis. Personally I like New Balance shoes, I think the 460 was my favorite though currently I am wearing a set of Rebok RB 804's because they breath much better. My feet tend to sweat quite a bit and while they are not as comfortable as the New Balance shoes they keep my feet much cooler. Thus it is my opinion that fresh shoes > old expensive shoes.

Tips on using the treadmill:

If you tend to drag your heel like I do then set the incline on the treadmill up slightly. This forces you to pick your feet up and keeps you from having the sensation of falling forward. The rest is pretty simple, when you increase the belt speed you must also increase your leg speed :lol:. Joking aside it is pretty easy to injure yourself while running if you are not used to it. It's not a low impact exercise like bicycling is so be sure to listen to what your body is telling you. Know when to stop.

Bau

Tex_Arcana
07-07-09, 08:56 AM
Aw geez, just got back from MapMyRide and found out that the next block over is a half mile around and a group of blocks is .1 over a mile.

I know I'm going to hate this.

racethenation
07-07-09, 08:57 AM
This is where I had to learn the hard way as well. In the same way that you can save a few dollars buying a bike online that may or may not fit, shoes are the same way. If you have a Fleet Feet (or similar store) in your area, they are hands down the best way to buy running shoes the first time. They usually charge MSRP for shoes, which is higher than you can find them most places, but they will spend time working with you including running on the in store tread mill to find exactly the right shoe for you. Think of it as a professional bike fit for your feet. After that you can shop online to find the best price when it comes time to replace the first pair.

How often you replace them depends on how much you are running. People that are running 25+ miles per week often replace them every three months. If you are only running once per week, you can probably get close to a year out of them. Mine are about 8 months old with about 125 miles on them, and I can tell that they are started to compress some and are losing some of their comfort.



For me the biggest comfort increase came from a new pair of sneakers. I had previously been using a pair of my everyday sneakers that I had for at least 2 years. I have since learned that sneakers have a shelf life some somewhere around 6 months is you jog/run on a regular basis. For this reason I do not purchase incredibly expensive sneakers but I make sure I rotate them out on a regular basis. Personally I like New Balance shoes, I think the 460 was my favorite though currently I am wearing a set of Rebok RB 804's because they breath much better. My feet tend to sweat quite a bit and while they are not as comfortable as the New Balance shoes they keep my feet much cooler. Thus it is my opinion that fresh shoes > old expensive shoes.

TechKnowGN
07-07-09, 10:14 AM
How often you replace them depends on how much you are running. People that are running 25+ miles per week often replace them every three months. If you are only running once per week, you can probably get close to a year out of them. Mine are about 8 months old with about 125 miles on them, and I can tell that they are started to compress some and are losing some of their comfort.

Plus weight, stride (I destroy the heels on mine if im doing a bunch of walk races or training), etc. Being over 300#, I expect mine to last me 3 months MAX if im training/racing hard core. I did 16 races last year, and I went through 5 pairs of shoes.

Bone Head
07-07-09, 10:56 AM
I run (more like a plodding shuffle) and don't like it. I'm training for my 2nd Triathlon.

BigPolishJimmy
07-07-09, 11:24 AM
I tried to run for about a year in college 20+ years ago but gave it up from the pain in my shins, I just couldn't get over that pain even though I did complete a few 5k runs. Now there is no way I'd consider running seeing as now I have added about 100-lbs and the impact would be murder on my knees. This is why biking has been so great, sometimes out on the long stretch of road and spinning I feel like i'm in a zone. I could go faster if I were to mash the gears, but spinning is the challenge, I'm growing stronger and I can feel it, just got to push a little more each time.

Ex-Floridian
07-07-09, 11:48 AM
Running is what eventually put me on a bike. I was an avid runner and racer for 20 years. Had two surgeries related to running, hip and foot. Doctor finally said maybe I should take up another sport. I loved running and never thought any form of exercise could replace it particularly biking. I now find biking to be my exercise passion,

LesterOfPuppets
07-07-09, 11:58 AM
I like to run a little once a week or so. And when I say a little, I mean about a mile. Runners would scoff at calling that running, I imagine.

I love it. Sure ain't no problem keeping the heart rate up. Same thing with skateboarding (non-downhill).

perryw
07-07-09, 06:17 PM
Think of it as a professional bike fit for your feet

Yep. My local running store put me in a pair of neutral running shoes, then put me on the treadmill with a video camera watching my feet. We watched the tape in slow motion to see how I pronated. The salesman brought me three pairs of shoes to match, giving me facts & info about each, and let me test each one on the treadmill. One felt a little tight in the forefoot, one felt decent, and the last was great. To me, it really was worth paying the extra over what I knew I could get the shoes for online. Really unique way of buying shoes.

hendrick81
07-07-09, 06:23 PM
Wish i could run more, but my knees dont alow it, that is what got me into road cycling...

nkfrench
07-07-09, 07:12 PM
In high school I was sufficiently adequate at swimming to help qualify a relay to final at State championships. The next week we did a timed 100-yard run in PE class and I finished 49th of the 50 girls in the class. The only girl I ran faster than had grown about 4" taller that year and was incredibly uncoordinated. The smokers, druggies, fat kids, couch potatoes -- all of them left me in the dust.

Age 34 I totally trashed a knee in a soccer practice. I was the goalie since less running ability was required. I completely ripped 3 of the 4 major knee ligaments, stretched the 4th, ripped all the muscle off the bone in the back, had nerve injury that left me with paralysis/foot drop for 3 months. The orthopaedic surgeon stitched it up best he could; then he had to go in 5 months later to reconstruct after some repairs failed. After the injury I was medically retired from all gravity and combat sports - swimming and cycling I can do.

A few years later I decided I wanted to run the local 10K for the heck of it. I was in great shape from swimming and weight-lifting (not an Athena-Clyde at that time). So I did a practice 2-mile run and my knee was hurting at the end of the 20 feet from my front door to the street. I gritted my teeth and jogged 2 miles in 20 minutes. And I was limping and sore for 4 days. The next weekend I went for a 4-mile run, same problems within 20 feet of the start, sore for 4 days, finished in 40 minutes. The next weekend I ran 6 miles, finished in an hour, sore. So I decided that would be my training for the 10K - the 3 runs.

I ended up not participating. The race gets over 10,000 participants including a lot of kids. My knee was so unstable that a little bump from another person could cause a twist or fall with a catastrophic knee reinjury, a risk I was not willing to take. I had a $900 custom titanium/carbon fiber brace that would have been OK except it could not be refitted to accommodate my lost-100#-smaller-leg, so I would have needed to get a brand-new brace in order to run one event for grins.

I started cycling a year ago. Happily I have just enough flexion to pedal if the saddle is in a correct high position. I am getting about 300 miles/month. Most of the time it's pain-free unless my knee goes into weather-forecast mode which can put me into tears and limping.

I doubt I could even run across the street now and even if I could, it would hurt.

mtclifford
07-07-09, 09:45 PM
As a newbie triathlete I can say running is a double edged sword. Time wise it is more efficient for weight loss and cardio than cycling, however I can only run for 90 minutes tops, I can bike all day if I want to. Plus running is a lot harder on the body the cycling, a LOT of cyclists I know ran when they were younger but switched because of wear and tear on their bodies.

Plus imo running is a nasty sport, its all spit and sweat and blisters and nasty oozing things, definitely not pretty, a friend of mine was training for a marathon and she sat down and started cutting blisters off her feet while talking to me once, I nearly gagged.

guelerct
07-08-09, 06:25 AM
I run between 3 and 4 miles a couple of times a week. Cycling is limited to weekends for me due to busy traffic conditions, etc.
Running is tough if you are really overweight and should probably be an activity that you start after weight loss.
Running get easier with time, the more you do it the better you get

TechKnowGN
07-08-09, 08:35 AM
Day #2 of intervals is today. Then I get to go swimming, which I am MUCH looking forward to. I'm trying not to judge running too harshly yet. I wasnt in pain like I thought Id be, but I also didnt run far, or long.

jdon
07-08-09, 08:35 AM
I used to run, then discovered cycling. I love the efficiency of cycling and hate the pain and injuries of running. Now it takes a real motivator for me to run.. a Doberman might do.

kjmillig
07-08-09, 10:55 PM
I kind of run from the car to Walmart when it's raining, but the older I get the more my knees yell at me. But even when I was younger and fitter my mind and body went into a depression at the thought of running. I absolutely hate it.

Missbumble
07-10-09, 04:15 PM
OK - i did it again. I think the running and bikng is a great idea. Running seems lik such a quick workout. Today I did the treadmill for 3.1 miles - 33 minutes. Considering a few weeks ago I ran my first 5k at 41 minutes...things are improving. I want to keep this up since I think it is great for the wieght loss (But really Ineed to eat less) and a really efficient way to workout. I did intervls today -0ne song at 5.5 and then next at 6.0.

Thanks for posting this thread and inspiring me guys.

CliftonGK1
07-10-09, 04:43 PM
If there was an "Oh hell no, not even if the cops were after me" option, I'd have gone with that.

I ran X-C in high school, and did Oly distance tris up through my sophomore year in college. Previous to those, I ran 10k races all through grade school. I remember my first organized run with my dad; he ran the 1 mile "fun run" with me after he finished up his 10k race. I was 7 years old.

I'll ride hundreds of miles at a time without hesitation, but you'd have to threaten my family to make me run anywhere now.

Tel0004
07-10-09, 08:13 PM
Don't ban me for saying this, but I love running. I don't even own a bike.

If I am running and somebody beats me, they had a better day, its a simple as that. In a bike race, money can help you out, since a better bike will be faster, so the best man may not always win, its just a very good man with some money to spend on a bike.

The reason I joined this forum is because I want to get involved in Triathlons, so I will be getting a bike, and I look forward to riding it (I've rented a few recently), but I think I will always be a runner first and a biker second.