"The 33"-Road Bike Racing - 3 race questions, 1 thread

Bikeforums.net is a forum about nothing but bikes. Our community can help you find information about hard-to-find and localized information like bicycle tours, specialties like where in your area to have your recumbent bike serviced, or what are the best bicycle tires and seats for the activities you use your bike for.




View Full Version : 3 race questions, 1 thread


elros14
07-09-09, 07:24 AM
I thought I'd pack a series of questions into one thread since it's all related to a race I have this Saturday. First off, two weeks ago I was involved in a really bad crash in a race. In the crash my bike frame was destroyed but surprisingly I survived with only some small road rash on my legs and arms. I replaced the frame for a pretty penny through the Cervelo crash replacement program, but in the process I had to replace the rear wheel and seat, which were also damaged.

This Saturday I have a 27 mile race on a very hilly course, one section averages 10% for 1 mile and each 9 mile loop has 1000 feet in climbing.

So here are my questions:

1. Since the crash, I don't know if its the new seat (toupe instead of slr, which I find very uncomfortable) or the borrowed bontrager rear wheel, but I've lost a lot of power, almost 40 watts going 5 minutes hard (340 watts instead of 380). Is it the new bike, which might be slightly off from what I'm used to, or is it me?

2. My old bike came with an 11-23 cassette (53-39 crank). I have a steep hill nearby which averages 11% for 0.8 miles which I practice on all the time. At first I could barely make it to the top on 39-23, but I got better and better, averaging about 75 rpm cadence. Usually I prefer a very high cadence between 100 and 105 and I always thought my gearing made me climb at a bad cadence. But while I've been waiting for my new rear wheel I've been training on an 11-26 SRAM and going up that hill doesn't feel the same on 39-26, is the slower cadence actually better up that 5 minute climb? If so, should I race with the 11-23 or should I go with the 12-27 cassette I recently bought?

3. Kind of a stupid question...at sports authority the other day I saw these insulated water bottles, which I thought was a good idea, so I bought two. They are a bit heavier then the ones I already have, marginally though. Should I worry about that weight difference for the hilly race? Is a cold drink worth the extra weight I'd have to carry up a hill?

Thanks for your help


snoboard2
07-09-09, 07:40 AM
1. Sounds to me like your bike fit is off a bit. Happen to save measurements on how you set up your crashed bike?

2 As long as you don't weigh 200+ lbs, 11-23 is the way to go. At race pace you'll be spinning out that 39-27. Sitting down is more efficient, but for long, sustained climbs. You should be fine. See if you can replicate that hill just to double check.

3 The polar insulated bottles ROCK!!! I use them in training, especially in the summer. However I don't race with them because they are so nice and $8+ a bottle. I've found that when I toss my polar bottles to pick up new bottles mid-race, someone makes off with them before I can make it back to pick them up after the race.

However, if your race is only 27 miles, You shouldn't need to toss bottles. Go for it.

merlinextraligh
07-09-09, 07:40 AM
1) its most likely you, and your head. Power output fluctuates normally. Also crashing can take the stuffing out of you for a bit. It will come back

2) Do some repeats up your training hill, measuring time and power output, in several different gears and cadence. Race the one that gives you the lowest time, and highest power.

3) I wouldn't worry about the weight of the bottles. I would be concerned about the reduction in volume, but probably not an issue in a 27 mile race.


MDcatV
07-09-09, 07:42 AM
this sounds like mt. nebo rr. if so, put the dinner plate (12x27) on the back, it's relentless and steep. this is a no brainer, provided you're talking mt. nebo. trust me on this one.

power loss could be anything, maybe bike fit? or recovering from crashing?

ridethecliche
07-09-09, 08:23 AM
That race sounds fun as heck!

ericm979
07-09-09, 08:31 AM
You don't have to use the largest cog. If it's too low, shift up.