Mountain Biking - Tire choice

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ZoomZoom
06-29-04, 06:23 AM
Could someone give me some ideas as to a good tire for me to use on my MTB? I ride it about 75% of the time on the road but the other 25% I take it off road on trails.
FoX Rider
06-29-04, 09:11 AM
I don't know what companies make them or their prices. But my friend had hybrid tires. And they worked great. Till we decided to go all offroad. Then they poped but if your going 75% on road they'd be great. BTW its a mix of road tires and treaded tires. Search for it on google or something you'll see what I mean.
joeprim
06-29-04, 09:22 AM
www.bikenashbar.com or some close to that has 32 and 38 x 700 mm sounds like what you are looking for.
Joe
atomicaxl
07-08-04, 01:55 AM
maxxis hookwork might be good 4 u...
crank'n
07-08-04, 03:53 AM
Are yours 700x rims? if not;
Dunlop D200 26'in ther'e dual compound, comfortable, wide {check brake mounts**,are a good tyre.
JohnnyTheFox
07-08-04, 03:57 AM
Are yours 700x rims? if not;
Dunlop D200 26'in there dual compound, comfortable, wide {check brake mounts**,are a good tyre.
Or buy a set of slicks and good off road tires, its a pain to change but you get the best of both worlds.
crank'n
07-08-04, 04:04 AM
Or buy a set of slicks and good off road tires, its a pain to change but you get the best of both worlds.
Dual compound tyres: slicks in the middle of the tyre for the road, and knobys on the outer for track [two tyres in one]
Dannihilator
07-08-04, 08:19 AM
maxxis hookwork might be good 4 u...
High Roller Semi Slicks, hookworms are slicks, but they are overkill for just normal riding on the road.
wonder squirrel
07-08-04, 05:08 PM
I thought of getting the Hookworms. I currently have the IRC Mythos slick (has the small knobs on the outside, and a semi slick crosshatch/mini knob center's-26x1.95) The thing about them I don't like is the center traction. If you run the tires over say 45psi, they get a bumpy ride to them, that feels like a knobbed tire, and anything under that pressure, (for me, 280lbs) is like riding a flat. They brake really well though. Most my riding is off trails by the way. So I was curious how well the Hookworms would ride being as big and heavy as they are. Only size I could find were 26x2.5's, and the weight was double that of other road tires (most of the slick styles are around the 1.95 range in size). I was also considering the Maxxis Larson Oriflames (26x2.0 + they are on sale for like $12 bucks each, compared to $27 for the Hookworms) and the Maxxis High Roller Simi Slick($14, 26x2.35). Anyone ever ride these? Any suggestions on a tire similar to those three?
BlackDiamond
07-08-04, 06:01 PM
http://www.jensonusa.com/store/imgWrapper.aspx?img=/ti/ti606a02.jpg&type=3
The Oriflamme excels on hardpack type conditions where rolling resistance is priority one, such as competitive MTB racing. Small, ramped square knob design provides traction but doesn't slow you down. Single-ply casing, 70A durometer rubber compound. Designed by Steve Larsen specifically for competition use.
And they are only $12 http://www.jensonusa.com/store/product.aspx?i=TI606A02
wonder squirrel
07-08-04, 08:46 PM
http://www.jensonusa.com/store/imgWrapper.aspx?img=/ti/ti606a02.jpg&type=3
The Oriflamme excels on hardpack type conditions where rolling resistance is priority one, such as competitive MTB racing. Small, ramped square knob design provides traction but doesn't slow you down. Single-ply casing, 70A durometer rubber compound. Designed by Steve Larsen specifically for competition use.
And they are only $12 http://www.jensonusa.com/store/product.aspx?i=TI606A02
Yeah I read that too. I can't find much info on the Oriflames (except sales ads, etc.) But the Hookworms have pretty good reviews, most saying the only downside to them are the weight. I'm not super worried about weight, being 280 myself currently. Just looking for a good tire set really. They are a little bit pricey (for me) at $27 each, but I think they may be the answer for heavy fella's on the pavement. Just curious to see if they will fit my bike. My hardtail doesn't have enough clearance for a 2.5, but I think the K2 I just got might. Anyone out there ride the hookworms?
wonder squirrel
07-09-04, 08:53 AM
Anyone know what rim width is needed for a 2.5 Hookworm tire?
Dannihilator
07-09-04, 09:34 AM
Something around the width of a Singlewide or an Atom Labs Trail Pimp or Aircorps.
wonder squirrel
07-09-04, 03:01 PM
Something around the width of a Singlewide or an Atom Labs Trail Pimp or Aircorps.
I got Mavic X139 rims. Don't know the width at the moment. hmmm
wonder squirrel
07-09-04, 04:53 PM
Just got a reply from K2, they say the hookworms "might" fit on the Attack 3.0..hmm, gonna have to do some diggin'
BlackDiamond
07-09-04, 05:47 PM
Even if only 25% of your riding is done in the dirt, the hookworms are not going to work well at all. I would look at a good semi-slick with a hard rubber compound; hey kind of like the first tire I recommended. http://www.cripplefight.com/smileys/thwap.gif
wonder squirrel
07-09-04, 07:03 PM
Even if only 25% of your riding is done in the dirt, the hookworms are not going to work well at all. I would look at a good semi-slick with a hard rubber compound; hey kind of like the first tire I recommended. http://www.cripplefight.com/smileys/thwap.gif
Most my riding is on pavement. Don't like the tires I have now (26x1.95 IRC Mythos XC Slick) so just figured the Hookworms would be more up my alley (big, heavy duty, smooth rolling 26x2.5). Guess it's more or less a question of weather or not they will fit my current rim (Mavic X139) and rear triangle (K2 Attack 3.0). I plan on getting a set of Rhyno Lite XL rims with XT Disc hubs probably next month (can't run rim brakes on my DJ2 fork) with a set of Avid Disc's in the following month or so. I'd like to have the tires now though.
Dannihilator
07-09-04, 08:48 PM
The hookworms are way out of your league they are big because they need to take impacts.
Maelstrom
07-09-04, 08:51 PM
The are based on bmx design for durability...they are overkill for anything below heavy urban :)
BlackDiamond
07-09-04, 09:34 PM
http://www.cripplefight.com/smileys/signdito.gif
wonder squirrel
07-10-04, 10:54 AM
The hookworms are way out of your league they are big because they need to take impacts.
Who are you to judge whats in my league, or anyone elses for that matter?
Maelstrom
07-10-04, 11:04 AM
Probably an assumtion based on the other tires you are looking at, your concern for the weight of the tire and the tires you currently are using. Also a little bit can even be assumed by the fact you are getting ryno lites (great rim but any heavy urban will kill these rims) Based on those 4 things it sounds like you are an urban commuter/light urban rider (little drops, stairs etc).
The hookworm is more designed for comp park riding (x-games style) and ... well really thats kind of it. Personally I like a little bit of knob for riding urban even :)
As for the weight thing vs speed. With no knobs...these things are fast and corner sweet. You should see this one mbuk mag I have where a rider is power cornering (like a street race bike) and is leaning so far, but the tires still stay hooked up. Very cool tire.
wonder squirrel
07-10-04, 11:16 AM
Probably an assumtion based on the other tires you are looking at, your concern for the weight of the tire and the tires you currently are using. Also a little bit can even be assumed by the fact you are getting ryno lites (great rim but any heavy urban will kill these rims) Based on those 4 things it sounds like you are an urban commuter/light urban rider (little drops, stairs etc).
The hookworm is more designed for comp park riding (x-games style) and ... well really thats kind of it. Personally I like a little bit of knob for riding urban even :)
As for the weight thing vs speed. With no knobs...these things are fast and corner sweet. You should see this one mbuk mag I have where a rider is power cornering (like a street race bike) and is leaning so far, but the tires still stay hooked up. Very cool tire.
I'm not concerned with weight at all. Just mentioned they weighed more then the rest of the tires I was considering. I planned on the Rhyno's because they are decent wheels, and I wasn't planning on going huge with these. Just wanted a quality rim that had the best price to weight to strength ratio. $159 for a complete wheelset with XT hubs is a decent deal. I don't like the tires I have currently, and don't think going to something smaller or lighter would be worth the time or effort..
Don't get me wrong, I do appreciate people who are trying to help, and offer advice based on facts and expierience, but someone who says that "they are out of your league" based on nothing more then reading a couple posts on a forum, well, I just have no respect for.
Maelstrom
07-10-04, 11:22 AM
See that was simply his point. If you don't plan on going huge, the cost and weight aren't justified...It is kind of on par with buying a Maxxis Mobster 2.7 for xc....you would be better off going with another tire (lighter and cheaper maybe even semi slick) and stick with the ryno lite.
Of course I am also making assumtions about what he meant. I could very well be wrong....
Maelstrom
07-10-04, 11:27 AM
Don't get me wrong, I do appreciate people who are trying to help, and offer advice based on facts and expierience, but someone who says that "they are out of your league" based on nothing more then reading a couple posts on a forum, well, I just have no respect for.
You might have no respect for it, but with no knowledge directly of you and only reading the posts you put up assumtions are made. We all try to give the best possible opinions based on that limited knowledge. It sucks but that is the limitation of the internet, NOT the person giving the opinion. Again, refer to post above about the maxxis Mobsters. Based on the limited posts you have done, if you posted asking for a good tire that hooks up and offer yourself the suggestion of the mobster, I would instantly say no that is overkill for your riding. You might not like it, but it is the truth.
Maybe you have another bike that you dh with AND you plow through rocks and do good sized drops who knows...but based on current posts...(which is all we have) we give opinions. If you are going to fault people for that...you shouldn't ask questions on the internet (which I am not implying you should do...)
wonder squirrel
07-10-04, 11:29 AM
See that was simply his point. If you don't plan on going huge, the cost and weight aren't justified...It is kind of on par with buying a Maxxis Mobster 2.7 for xc....you would be better off going with another tire (lighter and cheaper maybe even semi slick) and stick with the ryno lite.
Of course I am also making assumtions about what he meant. I could very well be wrong....
I do appreciate your feedback mael, and fully understand what your saying about the tires. Thanks.
Dannihilator
07-10-04, 12:38 PM
See that was simply his point. If you don't plan on going huge, the cost and weight aren't justified...It is kind of on par with buying a Maxxis Mobster 2.7 for xc....you would be better off going with another tire (lighter and cheaper maybe even semi slick) and stick with the ryno lite.
Of course I am also making assumtions about what he meant. I could very well be wrong....
You nailed it right on.
Michelin Jet S. Great traction and durability. Obviously since they're a semislick they suck in anything that's not dry, though.
morbid_fiend
07-11-04, 02:22 AM
If your mostly riding street with a little dirt then i recomened High Roller Semi-Slick, with the orange band so they dont disintergrate the first time you ride it on road, the middle slick is perfect for the road and the side knobs are great for dirt and added turning ability.
iamthetas
07-11-04, 12:01 PM
WTB primalraptors came on a bike I bought and they lasted what seemed like forever. they did not do well on sand or mud was the only drawback.they were1.95 and they rolled well on pavement and did well on trails of decent conditions. I havent seen them at Jenson lately so Im not sure if they are still made.they did well for me.best street tire I tried.Im about 200# give or take
wonder squirrel
07-23-04, 08:47 PM
Just got the hookworms mounted up tonight, hopefully the weather will allow me to sneak a good ride in before things get too sloppy. They look awesome on the bike though. I'll let you fella's know how well they work after I get a few good rides on em'.
Dannihilator
07-23-04, 08:56 PM
How many times have people here tell you not to get the hookworms. They are not designed for road commuting.
wonder squirrel
07-23-04, 09:21 PM
How many times have people here tell you not to get the hookworms. They are not designed for road commuting.
Sorry dad, I'll have little Timmy take them back immediately..
Dannihilator
07-23-04, 09:31 PM
No need to do that now. You do realize that you bought the heaviest slick tire that is around now. Wanted to have you get a bike tire that was more suited for riding on the road, not jumpin off of ramps and concrete ledges.
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