General Cycling Discussion - Oil addiction

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JonR
02-14-02, 09:27 AM
Here's a link (http://www.sfgate.com/comics/fiore/) worth a look, after these three warnings:

1. It will probably expire before too long, so act quickly.

2. It requires Flash media support on your computer.

3. If you get in your car to go 500 yards to the convenience store, you may not like it.


a2psyklnut
02-14-02, 09:35 AM
That's pretty much a copy of the TV ad I saw the other night during the Olympics. Except instead of "Oil" it was "Drugs".

Same concept!

Though gramatically correct, that's kinda like saying if you buy ketchup then you're supporting Terrorism. If you support the Kitchup manufacturers, they spend money advertising with McDonald's and Terrorist eat at McDonald's. If they don't eat then they starve, so therefore, If you buy ketchup, you're supporting Terrorism!

Pretty Stupid F*^$(ing reasoning to me, but I'm feeling pessimistic and conftrontational today so maybe it's just me!

aturley
02-14-02, 10:06 AM
Hells yeah!

I think quite a few of us absentmindedly joked that this would make a good commercial. I'm glad somebody actually did it.

The truth is that if you are trying to make some money, you go to where people are addicted. In today's world, oil and drugs are good places. But don't kid yourself. If they ever realized how much money cyclists spend on bikes, you'd see a lot more bikes and bike parts coming out of the countries of our "enemies".

andy


John E
02-14-02, 11:11 AM
Buying oil from the Middle East finances, strengthens, legitimizes, and empowers repressive governments, some of which do harbor terrorists. No one who genuinely cares about human rights, particularly women's rights, should feel good about this. [Recommended reading: Any book, particularly the first, of the "Princess Sultana" trilogy, by American author Jean Sasson (www.jeansasson.com).] One way to influence these regimes in a positive way is to exercise our immense power of boycott.

Our choices are to increase our domestic oil supply or to become alot smarter and more efficient in our use of petroleum. The first choice will decimate our last remaining wilderness areas, without abating global warming, and it will accelerate the inevitable depletion of our domestic oil supply, leaving us even more vulnerable to OPEC's whims. The second choice will buy us time to develop alternative energy sources, save us money in the long term, and give us time to understand global warming and to address it appropriately. Reduced auto-dependency will bring health benefits, as well. If the U.S. reduces its oil usage rate by 10 percent, it can cut the flow of dollars into Saudi Arabia in half.

heybulldog
02-14-02, 11:49 AM
I like this one.http:/www.markfiore.com/animation/freedom.html (http://www.markfiore.com/animation/freedom.html)

Harry
02-14-02, 02:08 PM
Too heavy all this.

Why not just drink Guinness?

Chris L
02-14-02, 02:50 PM
Gee, tell us something we didn't know. Once again it's a well known fact, but one that many people choose to ignore. Just like so many oil addicted "environmentalists".

LittleBigMan
02-14-02, 06:23 PM
Originally posted by John E
If the U.S. reduces its oil usage rate by 10 percent, it can cut the flow of dollars into Saudi Arabia in half.
I figure if every motorist commited themselves to carpool, take the bus, or bicycle to work just 3 days per month, (which would do more good than a plastic flag attached to the car,) that would come close to the 10% target.

Imagine, if every motorist did what many of us bicycle commuters do, but for only 3 days per month, we could just about cut in half the profits of oil-producing nations. (Unfortunately, the United States is also a large oil producer. Oh, well, leave it to me to think of the cloud to the silver lining...) :cry:

I guess oil makes strange bedfellows...

heybulldog
02-15-02, 12:19 AM
Originally posted by Pete Clark

I figure if every motorist commited themselves to carpool, take the bus, or bicycle to work just 3 days per month, (which would do more good than a plastic flag attached to the car,) that would come close to the 10% target.



:beer: :beer: :beer:

Feldman
02-15-02, 07:22 PM
FAAAAANNNTASTIC! If this ad were a bike it would be a combination of Rene Herse, Serotta, and magic carpet, if music it would be Beethoven! The cartoonist should be publicized and rewarded for this supreme public service, for real.

roadbuzz
02-17-02, 07:26 AM
Originally posted by John E
Our choices are to increase our domestic oil supply [deletia] The first choice will decimate our last remaining wilderness areas

And still barely put a dent in our current oil requirements. The current administration wants to sink billions into a star wars defense? Why not apply that money to serious R&D into alternatives.

Arghh. Another Pepcid moment.


Originally posted by Harry
Why not just drink Guinness?
I'll take that Guinness, now.

Feldman
02-23-02, 02:29 PM
Remember, when Jimmy Carter was president he had directed some amount of government money and energy towards alternative energy research. Too bad he was followed by 20+ years of oil industry ho's occupying the White House.