Professional Cycling For the Fans - Team Astana Sponsership

They are making an announcment Thursday according to Lances Twitter.

Going to be called Team Istanbul instead..

I heard it caught Contador by surprise.

seriously I wonder who's going to be on this new Nike-Livestrong team

Lance, Levi, Horner, Popovich, and Zubeldia for starters, probably bring up Taylor Phinney too.

Kloden?

I'm confused, what did Lance's twitter say? What's the implication? Is he planning on dropping Astana 4 days before the end of the Tour to do Nike/Livestrong, or will Nike sponsor Astana? Or an announcement of a team for next year's tour when this one isn't even over? Seems odd.

I'm confused, what did Lance's twitter say? What's the implication? Is he planning on dropping Astana 4 days before the end of the Tour to do Nike/Livestrong, or will Nike sponsor Astana? Or an announcement of a team for next year's tour when this one isn't even over? Seems odd.

what? no. Its for next year. come on now

lancearmstong via twitter "making a very cool announcement on Thursday re: a new American partner for our team in 2010 (and beyond). Stay tuned!"

This has been brewing for awhile though right? I swear I heard he had been looking for a US sponsor and had some potential ones lined up at the start of the tour

They are making an announcment Thursday according to Lances Twitter.

incorrect.

incorrect.

Geeez, I have to keep going around and stamping out the little fires you keep setting!

From Velo News:

By Agence France Presse
Published: Jul. 21, 2009

Lance Armstrong said on Tuesday he would definitely ride in next year's race a reliable source told AFP.

Armstrong plans to announce a new sponsor on Thursday, although he refused to say if it would replace his present team Astana.

However, his close friend and mentor Johan Bruyneel announced earlier on Tuesday that he is set to quit the Astana team as their team manager and rumors are rife that he is due to start up a new team with Armstrong the likely leader.

Geeez, I have to keep going around and stamping out the little fires you keep setting!

From Velo News:

By Agence France Presse
Published: Jul. 21, 2009

Lance Armstrong said on Tuesday he would definitely ride in next year's race a reliable source told AFP.

[COLOR="R ed"]Armstrong plans to announce a new sponsor on Thursday[/COL OR], although he refused to say if it would replace his present team Astana.

However, his close friend and mentor Johan Bruyneel announced earlier on Tuesday that he is set to quit the Astana team as their team manager and rumors are rife that he is due to start up a new team with Armstrong the likely leader.
geez, i have to keep correcting your inability to comprehend what's written.


team astana sponsorship


They are making an announcment Thursday according to Lances Twitter.

Astana is not making the announcement, Armstrong is. duh.

geez, i have to keep corrected your inability to comprehend what's written.





Astana is not making the announcement, Armstrong is. duh.

So Astana is no longer? Armstrong and JB are working for Astana. You are so wrong again!

geez, i have to keep corrected your inability to comprehend what's written.





Astana is not making the announcement, Armstrong is. duh.

What's wrong with this botto poster and his whitening out of other people's posts? He does this in every thread.

what? no. Its for next year. come on now

Well, the information above wasn't exactly very clear. It would seem odd for a company of Nike's stature to become a sponsor to Astana instead of just forming their own team. And it would be tacky for Lance to announce he is leaving Astana to form a new team while the 2009 Tour is still ongoing. Not that it is really in Lance's personality to give a crap if other people think his actions are tacky:).

So Astana is no longer?

how should i know.


Armstrong and JB are working for Astana.

incorrect.


You are so wrong again!

incorrect. again, mr. 99er.

Botto, nice to see I can disappear for a few years and you can keep the forums on the right track.

next year, with the exception of whoever renegotiates their contracts, the team will retain the same riders. What will happen though is that it will no longer be this "Astana team." With the change in sponsorship it will instead become "team nike" or whoever the sponsor is going to be. It is going to be annouced by Lance because he has put the work into creating this new sponsorship and not by Astana, since they will no longer be the sponsors of said team.

Does that work for everyone?

So Astana is no longer? Armstrong and JB are working for Astana. You are so wrong again!

you should get your facts straight and then you'll know why some of us think the actions of lance and bruyneel are despicable.

ed rader

So Astana is no longer? Armstrong and JB are working for Astana. You are so wrong again!

Astana will continue as a team led by Vino, and, probably not get an invite to Le Tour. Armstrong and JB have contracts to a team that is sponsored by and named Astana. Both have indicated that they probably won't be associated with Astana next year. Lance's announcement was with regards to "a new partner for our team in 2010". That's not Astana, unless they(Astana) pull out as sponsor and gift their protour license to JB and LA.

I'm sorry but,..........between you and Botto,.......Botto has a much better grasp on the facts. You just jumped to an unwarranted conclussion that "our team in 2010" would be Team Astana. Which it won't.

you should get your facts straight and then you'll know why some of use think the actions of lance and bruyneel are despicable.

ed rader

Ed you are such a Lance *****. Hey they weren't even making payroll, so what is the big deal? I guess Vinny will be so much better for Astana? Ya, right.

Astana will continue as a team led by Vino, and, probably not get an invite to Le Tour. Armstrong and JB have contracts to a team that is sponsored by and named Astana. Both have indicated that they probably won't be associated with Astana next year. Lance's announcement was with regards to "a new partner for our team in 2010". That's not Astana, unless they(Astana) pull out as sponsor and gift their protour license to JB and LA.

I'm sorry but,..........between you and Botto,.......Botto has a much better grasp on the facts. You just jumped to an unwarranted conclussion that "our team in 2010" would be Team Astana. Which it won't.

:thumb:

Astana will continue as a team led by Vino, and, probably not get an invite to Le Tour. Armstrong and JB have contracts to a team that is sponsored by and named Astana. Both have indicated that they probably won't be associated with Astana next year. Lance's announcement was with regards to "a new partner for our team in 2010". That's not Astana, unless they(Astana) pull out as sponsor and gift their protour license to JB and LA.

I'm sorry but,..........between you and Botto,.......Botto has a much better grasp on the facts. You just jumped to an unwarranted conclussion that "our team in 2010" would be Team Astana. Which it won't.

You are as mistaken as Botto.

You are as mistaken as Botto.

incorrect, sparky. :thumb:

You are as mistaken as Botto.

Whadever............

Whadever............

There is a t in what, not that I care!
You guys can quit your backpedaling.

There is a t in what, not that I care!
You guys can quit your backpedaling.

when you're in a hole, you should stop digging.

when you're in a hole, you should stop digging.

No hole, big announcement Thursday and you let semantics get in the way.

No hole, big announcement Thursday and you let semantics get in the way.

julian you are one argumentative cuss. maybe you should hit a meeting :thumb:.

ed rader

No hole, big announcement Thursday and you let semantics get in the way.

you certainly don't let facts get in the way.

All speculation and banter aside, I'm interested in the details of the announcement. I lost all of my respect for Vino when he got all chesty about how he definitely would be with Astana when his suspension was over and how JB would be gone if he didn't want him.

I think he will end up being the dog who caught the car when everyone who is anyone leaves Astana and he's left with a "team" that won't get invited to a lot of races. Talk about naive, JB basically saved the team and rebuilt it's reputation. That will all be undone if things happen the way I think they will.

All speculation and banter aside, I'm interested in the details of the announcement. I lost all of my respect for Vino when he got all chesty about how he definitely would be with Astana when his suspension was over and how JB would be gone if he didn't want him.

I think he will end up being the dog who caught the car when everyone who is anyone leaves Astana and he's left with a "team" that won't get invited to a lot of races. Talk about naive, JB basically saved the team and rebuilt it's reputation. That will all be undone if things happen the way I think they will.

+1

Too bad a catfight broke out here, instead of useful info based on the header.

Timing is interesting (though I saw elsewhere that JB already said he was finished with Astana after the Tour - which I'd guess is more Astana's doing than JB's), still during the Tour?

So Astana is no longer? Armstrong and JB are working for Astana. You are so wrong again!

I didn't think Lance was getting paid by Astana to ride this year, and may have even used some of his own (as in personal sponsors like Nike) money to keep Astana going through the tour............. You can not work for someone if you are paying them..... they work for you...

good read. got a nice chuckle outta this.

The timing of this doesn't surprise me in the least. They (LA, JB & their sponsor) will get a whole lot more air time and press by announcing during The Tour as opposed to after it's all over. So, no surprise there. And, at such a late stage that there is little Astana could do to effect the rest of their Tour.

you should get your facts straight and then you'll know why some of us think the actions of lance and bruyneel are despicable.What has Bruyneel or Lance done that is despicable? Seems like the whole Astana team was put through the wringer this year. I don't understand why setting up a new team with stable financing should be a surprise.

What has Bruyneel or Lance done that is despicable? Seems like the whole Astana team was put through the wringer this year. I don't understand why setting up a new team with stable financing should be a surprise.

bruyneel supporting lance over contador because lance and bruyneel will be starting their own team is despicable.

lance hemmed and hawed and said he would contest the giro and then later proclaimed himself co-captain of astana for the TDF with the help of bruyneel is also despicable.

ed rader

bruyneel supporting lance over contador because lance and bruyneel will be starting their own team is despicable.

lance hemmed and hawed and said he would contest the giro and then later proclaimed himself co-captain of astana for the TDF with the help of bruyneel is also despicable.

ed raderHas anyone been harmed in the slightest by these supposed despicable actions? Contador appears to be getting plenty of support in this tour and looks to have a solid grasp on the yellow jersey and a second tdf win. Other than people with delicate sensibilities I don't hear anyone complaining.

Has anyone been harmed in the slightest by these supposed despicable actions? Contador appears to be getting plenty of support in this tour and looks to have a solid grasp on the yellow jersey and a second tdf win. Other than people with delicate sensibilities I don't hear anyone complaining.

pedro delgado, former tour winner and friend of contador says that the inner fight on the team has caused a lot of unnecessary stress on contador, and i think that's putting it mildly.

when lance had his own team he believed that only one guy was in charge, and that was him. he would never stand for another team member in any way trying to usurp his leadership. so lance is totalling disrespecting contador and the team....except he has most of the team including the director on his side.

oh, but lance is doing it for the love of the sport and of course for those suffering from cancer....somebody please pass me the vomit bucket :eek:.

ed rader

Ed,

A quick question: Do you believe; everything you read in the press? ,nothing that you read in the press? ,or, subjectively what you feel like believing?

when lance had his own team he believed that only one guy was in charge, and that was him. he would never stand for another team member in any way trying to usurp his leadership. so lance is totalling disrespecting contador and the team....except he has most of the team including the director on his side.I suppose the difference is that Lance earned the right to control his team and call the shots. Clearly, Contador is not yet in that position.

Ed,

A quick question: Do you believe; everything you read in the press? ,nothing that you read in the press? ,or, subjectively what you feel like believing?

He hears voices. We don't know if they are from the press, from other sources or perhaps from his nightmares.

I suppose the difference is that Lance earned the right to control his team and call the shots. Clearly, Contador is not yet in that position.

This ought to be good.

Do you think that if Lance and JB started a new team that the UCI would give preference to them for Astana's license spot over Vino running Astana. They only issue about 20 licenses right. Or will they grant a few more if they feel the teams have a solid management and financial backing.

Do you think that if Lance and JB started a new team that the UCI would give preference to them for Astana's license spot over Vino running Astana. They only issue about 20 licenses right. Or will they grant a few more if they feel the teams have a solid management and financial backing.

Who is going to ride for Astana when they have trouble paying the bills and a character like Vino is running the show?

is it thursday yet? i want to know who the primary sponsor is.

Do you think that if Lance and JB started a new team that the UCI would give preference to them for Astana's license spot over Vino running Astana. They only issue about 20 licenses right. Or will they grant a few more if they feel the teams have a solid management and financial backing.

There are apparently 18 current ProTour team licenses. I do not know if UCI can/will adjust that, but, would be surprised if they excluded a JB/LA led team from such. The other option is that the "New Team" register as a Pro Continental team which as a wild card allows the various race organizers to invite them. Most (race organizers) would of course, because, it will boost the interest in their races and increase the value of them. Barloworld and Cervelo Test are examples of the later.

Ed,

A quick question: Do you believe; everything you read in the press? ,nothing that you read in the press? ,or, subjectively what you feel like believing?

of course i don't believe everything i read. i used to be a member of the press :D.

let me ask you something: am i the only person who thinks like i do? there's plenty of people who agree with me....guys like delgado, sean kelly etc.

ed rader

I suppose the difference is that Lance earned the right to control his team and call the shots. Clearly, Contador is not yet in that position.

contador has won three grand tours, one of five champions to ever to accomplish that feat plus he is demonstrably the strongest man in this race.

and you say he hasn't earned the right to lead a team :roflmao2:!

ed rader

contador has won three grand tours, one of five champions to ever to accomplish that feat plus he is demonstrably the strongest man in this race.

and you say he hasn't earned the right to lead a team :roflmao2:!

ed rader

Ed,

There's more to being a great "leader" than just "winning" and you're well aware of that. There are plenty of "winners" out there that still needed strong team "leaders" or "captains" to help them accomplish the goal.