Classic and Vintage Bicycles: What's it Worth? Appraisals and Inquiries - I just bid on this Paramount

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&item=290333354980

Any thoughts as to the final price? I'm really loving it, and will thin the herd to make room.

geek

Odd.

Seller says it's a 54cm in the title and 61cm in the description. I actually think it looks like a 58cm.
Nice frame either way. Final price? $300.00?

I'm thinking 58cm, also, so make sure it fits you, since I think you're taller than that?

I'd go $250-$300 and touch up. There is a Toyota color that matches that almost exactly.

Looks like at least 58cm

I'm thinking 58cm, also, so make sure it fits you, since I think you're taller than that?

I'd go $250-$300 and touch up. There is a Toyota color that matches that almost exactly.

60 to 63 cm is what I'm most comfortable on, considering my 34" inseam. I can ride a 58cm, but I would need to use a longer stem and jack the seat post up. I will ask the seller to remeasure the main and top tubes to make sure. I still have a soft spot for Schwinns :love:

geek

Odd.

Seller says it's a 54cm in the title and 61cm in the description. I actually think it looks like a 58cm.
Nice frame either way. Final price? $300.00?

Exactly what I was thinking on the size. The descriptions and photos are three different bikes.

You better be glad that thing is 2cm taller then I care for...

-Kurt

I found an interesting site for sizing:

http://www.coloradocyclist.com/bikefit

According to their site calculator, for my 34" inseam I should be riding a 58cm frame. Hmmm, it seems that I am more comfortable on 60cm, and 63cm seems to be almost too tall. Perhaps I should visit my LBS and get properly measured and see what really works.

geek

I found an interesting site for sizing:

http://www.coloradocyclist.com/bikefit

According to their site calculator, for my 34" inseam I should be riding a 58cm frame. Hmmm, it seems that I am more comfortable on 60cm, and 63cm seems to be almost too tall. Perhaps I should visit my LBS and get properly measured and see what really works.

geek

For Paramounts, a bit on the larger side may be better - helps offset the potential for a less lively ride from the overbuilt frames.
(My "racier" bikes are 57cm C-C, or even 56cm, but I really liked the ride of my 24-inch P'Mount.)

I found an interesting site for sizing:

http://www.coloradocyclist.com/bikefit

According to their site calculator, for my 34" inseam I should be riding a 58cm frame. Hmmm, it seems that I am more comfortable on 60cm, and 63cm seems to be almost too tall. Perhaps I should visit my LBS and get properly measured and see what really works.

geek

Stick to your instincts. I ride 56-58 and the size calc says I'm a 52. Impossible.

You guys wanna run up the price on geekrunner?

I found an interesting site for sizing:

http://www.coloradocyclist.com/bikefit

According to their site calculator, for my 34" inseam I should be riding a 58cm frame. Hmmm, it seems that I am more comfortable on 60cm, and 63cm seems to be almost too tall. Perhaps I should visit my LBS and get properly measured and see what really works.

geek

They're not referring to your 'blue jeans' inseam they're referring to your actual inseam from the floor all the way up beyond the boys to your boney area. Add about 2" to your blue jean size and try again.

Depending on the age of the cyclist, 'boney area' could be a pretty broad term. I know it was for me.

They're not referring to your 'blue jeans' inseam they're referring to your actual inseam from the floor all the way up beyond the boys to your boney area. Add about 2" to your blue jean size and try again.

Good catch, I refigured for 36" and got a 61cm result. When I straddle my 63cm S10-S with 27" wheels, the top tube is right up on my pubic bone. The Club is 61cm and feels just right. Thanks for your insights!

geek

In reply to a question, the seller says it is 61.5CM. That's all he says, didn't answer my question about TT length.

It's either a P10-9 or a P15-9 based on the dropout eyelets and rear brake cable braze-ons on the top tube.

Assuming it's not a custom bike, the seat tube has to be 24" (61cm) (if his 61.5cm measurement is close to accurate) from the center of the crank to the top of the seat tube. The Top Tube of a 1973 24" P15-9 frame is 23" (58.5cm) center-to-center.

I'm 6' tall with a 35.5" leg length, and my 24" P15-9 fits me perfectly.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d7/k4drd/Bicycles/1976ParamountFrameDimensions.jpg

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d7/k4drd/Bicycles/1972%20Chrome%20P15-9/1972ChromeParamountP15-9med.jpg

Great info! Thanks again.

geek

You guys wanna run up the price on geekrunner?

Now that I've re-checked the size of my chrome '70, I just might.

-Kurt

Well? Did you get it?

-Kurt

Yeah, did you?

Interesting that someone canceled a bid - might have kept the price down a bit.

Hey, old fella, we need to know!!!!!

Sorry, I passed it up. I had originally put $400 max on it, then retracted and bid $200. Figured if I couldn't get it for that price, no big deal.

geek