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hocker
07-25-09, 08:14 AM
So far, from what I have read...

Truth
Armstrong, Leipheimer, Horner, Kloden and Zubeldia

Rumors[/U]
Brice Feillu, Cadel Evans


Getting Feillu would be brilliant...French, young, good.


USAZorro
07-25-09, 09:45 AM
Shooting self in foot if they let Lance's ego pain to get in the way of reconciling with Alberto. I don't care who their D.S. is, they aren't going to beat Contador or Andy Schleck for several years.

reef58
07-25-09, 09:48 AM
They may have a chance with Nibali.

Richard


bellweatherman
07-25-09, 09:54 AM
Kloden to Radio Shack? I don't think so. Kloden is retiring.

bellweatherman
07-25-09, 09:55 AM
Cadel is wanting to join an Italian team. And Brice and his bro are staying together, like the Schleck brothers.

erader
07-25-09, 10:18 AM
Kloden to Radio Shack? I don't think so. Kloden is retiring.

where did you hear that? lance said kloden was coming.

ed rader

bmw5nkj
07-25-09, 12:15 PM
i'm glad leipheimer and kloden are on the team. they are like buddies you can always depend on during a race.

Dubbayoo
07-25-09, 12:30 PM
Shooting self in foot if they let Lance's ego pain to get in the way of reconciling with Alberto. I don't care who their D.S. is, they aren't going to beat Contador or Andy Schleck for several years.
There is absolutely no point in teaming with Contador again. They clearly both want to be sole leader in the same race.

reef58
07-25-09, 12:32 PM
Let them fight it out on the road again. The best will win 2nd best become support.

Richard


There is absolutely no point in teaming with Contador again. They clearly both want to be sole leader in the same race.

tkm
07-25-09, 01:19 PM
Clearly Lance still has it in him, so I see no purpose of teaming with AC again. A 3rd place finish at the TdF tells me that he certainly deserves to be a leader on his team.

bailcash09
07-25-09, 02:52 PM
Anyone hear anything about Popovych ?

USAZorro
07-25-09, 03:01 PM
There is absolutely no point in teaming with Contador again. They clearly both want to be sole leader in the same race.

Johann will need to get used to settling for 3rd on the podium. :p

Garthr
07-25-09, 03:15 PM
I found it telling that Armstrong made no mention of Contador when giving the names of riders for TRS in that interview.

Who knows what will happen, we'll all know soon enough because as of Monday . . they may all be fired . . as VINO is in Paris as a guest of the Ambassador of Kazakhstan on Sunday to re-claim "his baby"!

I hope they can handle the transition with some class and dignity.

Laggard
07-25-09, 03:39 PM
Team Geritol riding custom Rascals.

sykerocker
07-25-09, 09:46 PM
I don't care who their D.S. is, they aren't going to beat Contador or Andy Schleck for several years.

True. But it's one hell of a start for a team. Something that a Milram or Quick Step would probably kill for. You take the 'old folks' base that they're starting with and leven in some younger talent . . . . .

The important thing is that they're starting with strong enough, well known enough, talent to keep the advertisers bucks flowing while starting to think about the future.

Right now, Contador and Schleck are the top of the pile, and probably will be for the next 3-4 years. Which means JB isn't going to be winning any Grand Tours in the next few years. I think he'll live. After nine Tour de Frances, one Giro and Vuelta in 11 years, I think he's got the luxury of losing a few.

And who knows what he could develop, out of somebody that we're not noticing yet?

By the way, I didn't realize it was mandatory for a DS to win the Tour every year.

socalrider
07-25-09, 10:04 PM
What about Hincapie, his contract is up at the end of the season..

Hezz
07-25-09, 10:11 PM
What about the Floydster? Or is he doomed to never ride again in the pro tour. Or would Lance be too concerned about his teams image to take on a rider who was sanctioned? Lance needs a rider who will work for him but be able to move into being a serious tour threat when Lance hanks up his bike.

classic1
07-25-09, 10:36 PM
What sort of team gets Caddyshack as a sponsor anyway?

http://www.lazydork.com/movies/caddyshack.jpg

maddyfish
07-25-09, 10:36 PM
I would assume Phinney would be in, if not next year then the year after.

As far a Vino, that bozo should be gone forever.

maddyfish
07-25-09, 10:37 PM
What about the Floydster? .

Might as well get Rasmussen. No chance.

monosierra
07-25-09, 10:45 PM
Might as well get Rasmussen. No chance.

They don't like each other.

JosephM
07-26-09, 05:13 AM
What about Hincapie, his contract is up at the end of the season..

Thats what I was wondering. I wouldnt mind seeing that happening, but I heard today on the VS. coverage that he's probably going to retire after this year.

40 Cent
07-26-09, 09:51 AM
I don't care who their D.S. is, they aren't going to beat Contador or Andy Schleck for several years.

Maybe not, but I think next year it will be even closer. Lance's preparation for this tour wasn't ideal. Andy's still on the way up. With a strong team around Lance, and no ambiguity about his role, it's bound to be a closer contest. What will hurt Lance is he doesn't look quite as sharp in the TT as in the past. And, besides his age, it looks like he made the mistake of beefing up his upper body during his hiatus (to attract generation Y-ers no doubt). I saw this year's return as part of a mid-life crisis. Next year, he'll get more serious, and I doubt Contador or Schleck will be writing him off.

Garthr
07-26-09, 10:05 AM
Hincapie has stated he is aware of the "reports" of his pending retirement. . . . in truth he says he will decide over the winter. You can bet LA wants him, but we won't know until then.


I believe Jens Viogt's contract is up this year. . .though he seems happy with Riis and Saxo. . . but hey, it's silly season.

Noobz0r
07-26-09, 10:16 AM
Question, although I'd probably be able to read about it somewhere. If LA takes all of these Astana riders to TRS, what is going to happen to Astana?

And what about Popo?

I can't imagine CE and LA being able to work with each other overly well...

Paco97
07-26-09, 10:20 AM
I really like Hincapie with Columbia and I hope he stays with them, but it wouldn't surprise if he jumps ship and head to TRS. After watching his interview on Versus, I'd say he will more than likely jump ship.

Laggard
07-26-09, 11:38 AM
Can I be the first to suggest that TRS maybe load up on something other than 30-40 year old riders?

sykerocker
07-26-09, 11:44 AM
Go back a few postings, I've already mentioned the thought. Figure that the currently bandied about roster is for 2010. I seriously expect to see younger talent starting with the 2011 season.

Right now TRS (ghod, I always want to put an 80 after that!) main job is to convince the sponsor that they made the right move, and they'll want to continue on after 2010. Winning lots of races comes second. Yes, winning lots of races helps the convincing, but it's not necessarily mandatory.

sayn3ver
07-26-09, 11:49 AM
Laggard,

I am with you. Though I do not pretend to know about the intricacies of professional cycling, it just seems to me like a few sturdy young work mules would end up serving as a better base for a single GC contender team than a bunch of thirty year olds with experience and less leg. Unless of course 2010 has the TTT again with the same set of rules. Then it maybe it wouldn't be such a good idea.

txags92
07-26-09, 04:14 PM
Look at it this way. JB is the best tactical team director in the business. LA is probably the smartest tactical rider in the peleton today. You know the team won't be hurting for money for salaries. So as a rider looking around at options, if you know you aren't going to be a GC contender next year, why wouldn't you want to ride for a team where you know you will be in the thick of competition every day and get your name mentioned on TV every time you lead LA down the road? I think LA and JB will have their pick of just about any rider they want, and the team will wind up being full of solid experienced cyclists who know tactical racing along with a few young guys to help share the workload.

Contador has won two TDFs...one where the yellow jersey fell into his lap due to the withdrawal of the leader, and one where he benefitted from the support and assistance of the strongest team in the race. He is clearly the strongest climber in the world right now and arguably among the best time trialers...but how will he do when the strongest riders are riding against him instead of for him, and when he and his new team are up against a much stronger team full of veterans whose goal will be to bait him into making a tactical mistake on every stage? I can't wait to find out next year.

LTJ
07-26-09, 04:19 PM
Shooting self in foot if they let Lance's ego pain to get in the way of reconciling with Alberto. I don't care who their D.S. is, they aren't going to beat Contador or Andy Schleck for several years.

And may the haterade drinking commence!!

botto
07-26-09, 04:30 PM
And may the haterade drinking commence!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/botto/bf/1232550426_worffacepalm.gif

DMF
07-26-09, 04:51 PM
Who knows what will happen, we'll all know soon enough because as of Monday . . they may all be fired . . as VINO is in Paris as a guest of the Ambassador of Kazakhstan on Sunday to re-claim "his baby"!

Aren't their contracts with Bruyneel rather than with the team? JB won't fire them, for sure.

And add Gregory Rast to the list. I've heard no positive indication, but they'd be fools to let him go. The man's a bulldozer!

DMF
07-26-09, 04:56 PM
Can I be the first to suggest that TRS maybe load up on something other than 30-40 year old riders?

Lance mentioned Tyler Phinney and said he wants him in the development program.


The problem with discussing young guys is that none of us know who they are .. yet. Rumors only swirl around well-known guys.

DMF
07-26-09, 04:58 PM
Laggard,

I am with you. Though I do not pretend to know about the intricacies of professional cycling, it just seems to me like a few sturdy young work mules would end up serving as a better base for a single GC contender team than a bunch of thirty year olds with experience and less leg. ..

Riders don't reach the peak of endurance until their late 20s, so those 30 year olds are in their prime for stage racing.

botto
07-26-09, 05:05 PM
Riders don't reach the peak of endurance until their late 20s, so those 30 year olds are in their prime for stage racing.

stage racers peak at +/-28.

Boleyn
07-26-09, 08:32 PM
Riders don't reach the peak of endurance until their late 20s, so those 30 year olds are in their prime for stage racing.

But those 30 year olds are 35, 36, 37....